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Reply #60 - Aug 15th, 2010 at 11:17pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 15th, 2010 at 9:22pm:
Ok, I can see you're a tough nut to crack soren, how about this one?

Jon Stewart: Ground Zero Mosque



"It appears distrust of Muslims is the only thing that goes from 'sea to shining sea.'"

Own it. It is all yours.




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Reply #61 - Aug 15th, 2010 at 11:24pm
 
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Building the mosque is in effect building a triumphal mosque marking Islam’s superiority and victory — which is how the Ground Zero mosque will be viewed in the Islamic world


If it weren't for all this sensationalist garbage all over the media, nobody in the "Islamic world" would even have known the community/cultural centre was going to exist (it's not even a mosque, it's just got a prayer room in it). Did you know the Pentagon has a prayer room for Muslims too? and it was a direct target of the 9/11 attacks, not like this building which is several blocks away. Why no hoo-hah about that one?

Anyone who thinks there's anything untoward about this centre is obviously a half-witted red-necked hillbilly who needs some serious sense knocked into them. Did you also know the centre is going to have a 9/11 memorial in it?

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just the name of the place is an insult to those who died


Do you even know what the name means? I'd guess not.

It's the name of a city in Spain, which was famous for the peace and co-operation that Muslims, Christians and Jews shared together throughout the golden years of Islamic Andalus (Spain). Cordoba, Andalus etc. are names usually used by what you'd call "moderate" Muslim groups to reflect on their stance of peace and sharing with the West.

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Reply #62 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 12:00am
 
Nobody would bat an eyelid if the proposal was for a Buddhist or Hindu cultural centre on that site.

The issue is that it is a Muslim place, linking it with the people who commited the atrocities so near to it in 2001 - the last words by the pilots of those planes were 'allahu akhbar'.



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Reply #63 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 8:18am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 15th, 2010 at 10:37pm:
It's an insult only in the minds of simpleton mungbeans who can't fathom that "Muslims" did not commit any crime.
Get a grip on yourself.



Killing infidels may not be a crime to you, but it is to us.  Muslims shouldn`t be allowed to immigrate to the West, thereby infecting our society with dark ages dogma and gaining a reputation for insular arrogance and fervent self satisfaction.  Islam doesn`t belong in a free, and humanitarian society.
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Reply #64 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 8:23am
 
"It's the name of a city in Spain, which was famous for the peace and co-operation that Muslims, Christians and Jews shared together"

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Really, after they slaughtered them  and raised the city, that is I presume?


"Nobody would bat an eyelid if the proposal was for a Buddhist or Hindu cultural centre on that site."

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No- because they are people of peace
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Reply #65 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 6:24pm
 
aussiefree2ride,

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Muslims shouldn`t be allowed to immigrate to the West


Well I can't speak for all Muslims, but I didn't immigrate anywhere, my history in this country probably goes back further than yours, so you'd wanna plug yourself up on that one.

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Really, after they slaughtered them  and raised the city, that is I presume?


Indeed, raised up from the depths of darkness that they were steeped in.  Grin

Nothing more ironic, or is that moronic, than an "Anglo patriot" who can't even read and write the language properly.
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Reply #66 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 7:27pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 16th, 2010 at 6:24pm:
aussiefree2ride,

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Muslims shouldn`t be allowed to immigrate to the West


Well I can't speak for all Muslims, but I didn't immigrate anywhere, my history in this country probably goes back further than yours, so you'd wanna plug yourself up on that one.

cockneydoll,

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Really, after they slaughtered them  and raised the city, that is I presume?


Indeed, raised up from the depths of darkness that they were steeped in.  Grin

Nothing more ironic, or is that moronic, than an "Anglo patriot" who can't even read and write the language properly.

What are you on about ??
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Reply #67 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 7:40pm
 
raise-raze
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Reply #68 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 7:51pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 16th, 2010 at 7:40pm:
raise-raze

Definitely RAZE
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Reply #69 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 7:55pm
 
Looks like they are building elsewhere too.

The Towers of Barbarism

The Saudis have unveiled a plan to define Mecca as the center of the world by building a giant clock tower in Mecca. The Bin Laden group's Royal Mecca Clock Tower which reads "In the Name of Allah", aims to replace GMT time, with "Mecca Time". The Royal Mecca Clock Tower, which looks like something you expect to pass on the way to Disneyland, like Dubai's Burj Tower, or its world islands are pathetic attempts to buy the facade of civilization with petrodollars.

The Royal Mecca Clock Tower is emblematic of the inability of the Muslim world to do the hard work of actually becoming civilized. Instead they build Pharaoh-like monuments to their own glory using imported slave labor. And they finance all that using money given to them by civilized countries in exchange for a particular resource that happens to be located on their territory. A resource that was discovered and developed for them by companies belonging to civilized countries.

The barbaric thinking behind the Royal Mecca Clock Tower is that if they build a really big clock tower, it will become a global standard and the infidels will acknowledge the Koran's Islamic science "zero magnetism zone"  claims for Mecca. That sort of thinking demonstrates a basic incomprehension of how civilization works. It shows no understanding of why Greenwich Mean Time serves the function that it does, which isn't because England spent money given to it by more civilized countries to build a really big ugly tower that impressed everyone.

This same kind of ignorance lies behind Dubai's frenzied construction projects, in which modern skyscrapers are plunked down in the middle of a backward country. Where Western skyscrapers were the natural product of expanding economic and technological frontiers, Muslim skyscrapers are desperate attempts to buy superiority. A product of the same need to be superior to the infidels, that caused Islamic law to ban synagogues and churches from being taller than mosques. And now that they have the money, Muslim rulers are determined to build bigger buildings than the Empire State Building or the Sears Tower, or the World Trade Center, which they destroyed.

9/11 was at its heart motivated by that same bigoted need to suppress the infidels, that drive the Saudi, Malaysian and UAE construction projects. That same drive is behind the Ground Zero mosque. It is the combination of an inferiority complex and a hatred for non-Muslims, that same combination which causes the left and some on the far-right to urge us to feel ashamed of how badly we must be treating Muslims, for them to feel that way. But the reason that Muslims feel this way is because they cannot accept non-Muslims as equals. It was the reason why they banned synagogues and churches from being taller than mosques. It is why non-Muslims are still not allowed into Mecca.

Bigotry drives Muslims to prove that non-Muslims are inferior. When Jews or Christians or Hindus demonstrate that they are not inferior, the reaction is furious as Muslims strive to prove that the infidels are beneath them after all. This motivates everything from the frenzied Muslim campaign against Israel, to the pathetic need to promote the wonders of "Islamic Science", from Al Queda's terrorism, to the Saudi financed Islamization of Europe. All that energy directed into showing non-Muslims their proper place.


More at .........
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2010/08/towers-of-barbarism.html?utm_source=feed...
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Reply #70 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 7:59pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 16th, 2010 at 6:24pm:
aussiefree2ride,

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Muslims shouldn`t be allowed to immigrate to the West


Well I can't speak for all Muslims, but I didn't immigrate anywhere, my history in this country probably goes back further than yours, so you'd wanna plug yourself up on that one.



My family has been here since 1872.  Our main point of difference is that we love this country, we love freedom and the respect of all life.
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Reply #71 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 11:41pm
 
cockneydoll,

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Definitely RAZE


Right... now that you actually know which word you mean... No Muslims did not raze Cordoba, they turned it from a backwards little village of filthy heathens into one of the centres of civilisation and enlightenment of it's time.

From Wikipedia:
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During the caliphate apogee (1000 AD), Córdoba had a population of roughly 400,000 inhabitants, though estimates range between 250,000 and 500,000. In the 10th-11th centuries Córdoba was one of the most advanced cities in the world, as well as a great cultural, political, financial and economic centre. The Great Mosque of Córdoba dates back to this time; under caliph Al-Hakam II Córdoba received what was then the largest library in the world, housing from 400,000 to 1,000,000 volumes...

After the fall of the caliphate (1031)... it was captured by King Ferdinand III of Castile, during the Spanish Reconquista. The city was divided into 14 barrios and numerous new church buildings were added.
The city declined especially after Renaissance times. In the 18th century it had reduced to just 20,000 inhabitants.


From one of the most advanced cities in the world under Islam, with a population of over 400,000 (in that time making it a metropolis) to a little backwater of 20,000 or so under the Christian/Secular Western leadership. As we can see it was never razed, but it was indeed _raised_, when the Muslims arrived.

Until this day, some of the greatest tourist attractions in Spain are still the wonderous palaces and mosques built by the Muslims over 1000 years ago.

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The Royal Mecca Clock Tower is emblematic of the inability of the Muslim world to do the hard work of actually becoming civilized. Instead they build Pharaoh-like monuments to their own glory using imported slave labor.


No argument from me there. It's an absolute disgrace!

But whose mates are they? The Saudi pirate clan are the loyal little servants of the West, and have been ever since the British dug them up in the deserts of Diriya over 2 centuries ago and began using them to take swipes at the Ottoman Caliphate.

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Reply #72 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 11:44pm
 
aussiefree2ride,,

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My family has been here since 1872.  Our main point of difference is that we love this country, we love freedom and the respect of all life.


1853 here, so go back to where you came from you bloody import.

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Our main point of difference is that we love this country, we love freedom and the respect of all life.


No, our main difference is that you think you have some kind of racial superiority over others.
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Reply #73 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 11:55pm
 
"No, our main difference is that you think you have some kind of racial superiority over others."

Sounds like your forte mister, you're the one with a chip on your shoulder
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Reply #74 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 11:13pm
 
Just out of curiosity do any of those dimwits who oppose this mosque also oppose building churches near the Oklahoma City building that little Timmy McVeigh blew up?
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