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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Ground Zero mosque defies logic Reply #15 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 7:07am It's very tacky someone wanting to build a mosque near the site, as it is still all too raw for many people.
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Reply #16 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 10:30am

mozzaok wrote on Aug 12^th, 2010 at 9:33am:

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 11^th, 2010 at 9:14pm:

Before we all get carried away and start thinking this "mosque" is being built on the site where the twin towers once stood; it's not, the planned site is in fact a couple of blocks away.

This most salient point, goes unnoticed, and not commented on, but it is surely crucial to the debate.
Is the mosque being built on what is described, and understood as, "Ground Zero", or is it being built somewhere near Ground Zero?

Personally, I wouldn't build a mosque, synagogue, or christian church, anywhere, but I do not object to others building them, I do balk at the fact that these groups evade tax by the special treatment for religion laws they so depend upon, which provides extra money to build these indulgent palaces of idiocy, but that is another issue.

So we need to make sure that we are not just providing another venue for anti-muslim attitudes, under the guise of concern for the dead, because that just demeans the people who may have legitimate issues with aspects of Islam, whilst not seeking to demonise all muslims as quasi terrorists.

Have a look:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/World_Trade_Center_Site_9-23-...

You will see the site of the devastation and you will see the proposed mosque location, circled.

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cockneydoll Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 157	Re: Ground Zero mosque defies logic Reply #17 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 10:43am Thanks for that Soren, it makes it abundantly clear that the site is inappropriate
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Reply #18 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 11:43am

Soren wrote on Aug 11^th, 2010 at 9:34pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2010 at 7:33pm:

I think the Americans are being a little oversensitive about this.

Yeah, bloody Americans, typical, tsk... Wait for the generous response from the mullahs when this counter proposal gets up:

MONDAY'S GREGALOGUE: MY NEW GAY BAR
So, the Muslim investors championing the construction of the new mosque near Ground Zero claim it's all about strengthening the relationship between the Muslim and non-Muslim world.

As an American, I believe they have every right to build the mosque - after all, if they buy the land and they follow the law - who can stop them?

Which is, why, in the spirit of outreach, I've decided to do the same thing.

I'm announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.

This is not a joke. I've already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance.

As you know, the Muslim faith doesn't look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I'm building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.

The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps - but still want to dance.

Bottom line: I hope that the mosque owners will be as open to the bar, as I am to the new mosque. After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero, is no different than mine.

My place, however, will have better music.

For investment information, contact me at dailygut.com

http://www.dailygut.com/

One suggestion for the bar was "HoMohamo" Grin

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Classic..... Grin

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Reply #20 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 12:59pm

Pre-dates is a whole other issue and is really of no consequence. This is designed to be 'in your face" they have had offers to move it elsewhere and they won't

Gov. David Paterson has offered state help if the developers of a proposed mosque near ground zero agree to move the project farther away from the site of the Sept. 11 attack (AP).

The developers of the so-called Ground Zero mosque rejected New York Gov. David Paterson’s offer to provide state property if the project is moved farther away from where the twin towers once stood.

In an effort to appease disputing parties, Paterson had said Tuesday that he would provide state help to the group sponsoring the Cordoba House if the developers opt to move it elsewhere.

“Frankly, if the sponsors were looking for property anywhere at a distance that would be such that it would accommodate a better feeling among the people who are frustrated, I would look into trying to provide them with the state property they would need,” Paterson said.

While Paterson has “no objection” to the mosque being built a few blocks away from Ground Zero, he said he’s “very sensitive to the desire of those who are adamant against it to see something else worked out.”

But Paterson said Wednesday that the developers told his office they weren’t interested in moving.

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Reply #21 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 1:33pm

Good example of Muslim 5 point plan for foreign intervention.

First: a campaign of Shock and Awe.

Second: sell off all state infrastructure to foreign investors.

Third: establish investment opportunities for "affiliated ventures".

Fourth: mop up all security threats and enemy combatants.

Fifth: win hearts and minds through evangelical and other social programs such as mosques and prayer groups.

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Reply #22 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 9:00pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Aug 13^th, 2010 at 1:33pm:

Good example of Muslim 5 point plan for foreign intervention.

First: a campaign of Shock and Awe.

Second: sell off all state infrastructure to foreign investors.

Third: establish investment opportunities for "affiliated ventures".

Fourth: mop up all security threats and enemy combatants.

Fifth: win hearts and minds through evangelical and other social programs such as mosques and prayer groups.

A textbook example of 'idiot' - inability to tell the difference. Marvellous performace, you are class of your own. When it comes to 'idiot' you have no peer. Keep it up.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Ground Zero mosque defies logic Reply #23 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 9:57pm Yeh I agree it shouldn't be built there...i It should be built ON the site itself, to show the true conquest of Islam as being complete!!!
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Ground Zero mosque defies logic Reply #24 - Aug 13^th, 2010 at 10:01pm abu_rashid wrote on Aug 13^th, 2010 at 9:57pm: Yeh I agree it shouldn't be built there...i It should be built ON the site itself, to show the true conquest of Islam as being complete!!! Thank you for that public service announcement for the propagation of better understanding of the sociopath community.
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Reply #25 - Aug 14^th, 2010 at 8:15am

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 13^th, 2010 at 9:57pm:

It should be built ON the site itself, to show the true conquest of Islam as being complete!!! Grin

You don't speak for Islam. Most Muslims would be appalled and embarrassed by such a statement, even if it is made in jest.

I'm beginning to wonder exactly what your purpose is.

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Reply #26 - Aug 14^th, 2010 at 8:22am

I was just reading the little quote at the bottom of Abu's post, and do you think they mean drunkenness and vice is not a GOOD thing??

That proves it, they are flippin crazy.

Personally I love the gay bar suggestion, and think that everytime an Islamic group makes their demands for allowances, a western group should reply in a reciprocal arrangement.

Like having women in masks roam our streets, is freedom for them, we should install big fat hairy gay men in g-strings in their Islamic schools as lifestyle teachers, as their chance to display their reciprocal offering of freedom to us.

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Reply #27 - Aug 14^th, 2010 at 3:45pm

Americans need to get over themselves. They seem to forget that innocent Muslims died that day, not that they care. All they care about is themselves.

They have this warped opinion that all Muslims are terrorists and that this mosque will be a place for terrorists to gather in order to plot their next attack against the US.

The only reason most Americans are against this mosque is because it offends them, and why does it offend them? Because Americans are racist, idiotic bigots who wouldn't know what respect meant if it bit them on the backside.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Ground Zero mosque defies logic Reply #28 - Aug 14^th, 2010 at 10:37pm Couldn't have said it better myself Vanessa!
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Reply #29 - Aug 14^th, 2010 at 10:40pm

mozza,

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Personally I love the gay bar suggestion

You might be perverted enough to think gay bars are what typifies Western society, but I think most Westerners would disagree with it, and would be disgusted at having such filth represent them.

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and think that everytime an Islamic group makes their demands for allowances, a western group should reply in a reciprocal arrangement.

How on earth is buying your own property and building your own building on it "demanding allowances"??? You're obviously not playing with a full deck mate.

I can't believe some of the half wit crap you come out with sometimes mozza.

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