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Reply #135 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 9:35am
 
adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 9:15am:
Lets face it, to salve their guilt after the Nazi atrocities and the allies turning back on the Jewish refugees during the war. Post WW2 they took land that was already occupied in the middle east and gave it to the Jews.

This was always going to cause ongoing conflict and misery and because it was a problem created largely by Britain and the USA it is up to them to clear the Jewish people out of the Middle East and find them somewhere more suitable..considering most of them are from Eastern Europe or decedents of Eastern Europeans Im sure there is a few spare hectares somewhere in their real homeland now the Russians have cleared out  Smiley



It looks as if the antisemites are out in force today.

Read your history books darling.  It was always Jewish land, the Arabs are the interlopers.
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Reply #136 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 9:44am
 
Before you start to blame people, check out who actually voted for the creation of Israel, Australia was one who did but England did not not. At the time America didnt like Jews either, the creation of Isreal was a way to keep them out ofr America.
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Reply #137 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 10:07am
 
pope urban 2 wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 9:44am:
Before you start to blame people, check out who actually voted for the creation of Israel, Australia was one who did but England did not not. At the time America didnt like Jews either, the creation of Isreal was a way to keep them out ofr America.


They succeeded in this, while Australia is ruled by British Queen and America by Wall Street and Hollywood.
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Reply #138 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 10:11am
 
Sorry Stryder, like I said...
The common enemy that both Jew and Moslem will 'Unite' against would inevitably be the Italians - specifically the Religious ones.
Even the Mafia will finally find itself up against it on behalf of 'its' people.

Its a no-win situation. If you sympathise the Individuality of Jesus, then you eventually take it out upon the Jews as a people like Nazism did. If you are pro-sympathetic to the Jewish Holocaust, then you will eventually condemn Jesus. Its a vicious circle.

Having had to dump gassed baby chickens for a job into slush bins, I can't help but feel totally sorry for what happened to those Jewish people. I don't have to be religious to feel this way, let alone be anything else but just plain human. Ironically, Animal Production for Consumation consider 'gassing' as a 'humane' way of getting rid of unwanted excess stock, since throwing them into churning macerators 'live' was considered 'inhumane'.

I think there are a lot of nations that like the fact that Israel & Islam continue to hate and kill each other and will promote such hatred as much as possible ...never looking at the positive things in both Religions.

Religion: the state of being of carrying a Book (doesn't really matter what language or what story) and teaching the gift of being able to Read & Write ...nothing more and nothing less.

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Reply #139 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 10:45am
 
Im not anti Jewish..in fact I think what happened to them during ww 2 at the hands of the Nazis and the pre war persecution by just about every country in Europe was a disgrace. Im simply saying that the Jewish people are obviously from Eastern Europe and not the Middle East and so just to salve ourselves from our guilt for the treatment of the Jewish people we should not have stolen Palestinian Land and handed it to the Eastern European Jews.
Im simply saying this one act of shortsighted stupidity is one of the major reasons for the post ww 2 problems in the Middle East so we only have ourselves to blame..I dont blame the Jewish or Palestinian people for the position they have both found themselves in post WW 2 .
Lets face it, creating a homeland in the Middle East for millions of Eastern European Jewish refugees and asylum seekers was a dumb idea and was always going to end in tears.
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Reply #140 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 10:58am
 
much like dumping shiploads of Western Europeans, specifically the English/Irish, all the way over here in a place called Oceania.

Luckily the Slavics are making a go of this region.
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Reply #141 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:00pm
 
Cockney Doll,

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Jordan has refused to take any back and that’s where they come from in the main.


Your post is just utter fantasy.

For a start Jordan has taken more Palestinian refugees than any other country. Jordan has about 2 million people who were displaced as a result of the creation of Israel in Palestine. Out of those 2 million, about 300,000 of them still live in refugee camps, the rest has assimilated into the mainstream society.

Secondly, could you please provide some evidence for this wild claim that "that's where they come from in the main"? I realise it might be convenient for you to claim Palestinians are actually from Jordan, and that "Eretz Yisrael" was an empty land when the Jews arrived at the turn of the 20th. century, but don't try to pass it off as historical fact, because it simply is not.
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Reply #142 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:11pm
 
Eastern Europe. another s**t hole, Bosnain Serbs, Masodonkeys, Romanians and others, more people that add nothing, get in you Gypsy wagons and F**k off
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Reply #143 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 1:13am
 
Dear Pope (or is that poop?),
Nothing like a yell from behind enemy lines.

America: The West - created by Western Europeans known as the Celts. (Eire, UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Czech and Slovakia). Has the tendency to 'Unite' States into a single Nation and greatly influences Europe to do the same.

Yugoslavia - fractured into smaller nations from a United nation. Australia will eventually dissolve from a Unified nation into Independent Provinces (and the start of the RiftWars -  Cool)
There is a growth in Slavic Australians, a decline in Celtic Australians - population wise.

The Celts went West into America, and the Slavs went east a bit and down into another Hemisphere.

...this is the tricky bit, because there is no facet of European history that transcends a Hemisphere, so the Slavs really are making new ground, unlike the Americans who are just replaying what has gone before.

Oh, I wonder where the Scandinavians and the Latins went? Grin

By the way Poop, er...I mean Pope, Gypsies are Indian by original heritage and justification, not Slavic  Roll Eyes

Its not hard to be Slavic and successful in Australia, considering the Anglo-Saxons or Westerners speak a 3rd Class form of English here, so you get get by quite easily with such words as "Aussie, Aussie, Aussie - Oink Oink Oink" - even "Dinkum" is a Chinese word.

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Reply #144 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 10:49am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:00pm:
Cockney Doll,

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Jordan has refused to take any back and that’s where they come from in the main.


Your post is just utter fantasy.

For a start Jordan has taken more Palestinian refugees than any other country. Jordan has about 2 million people who were displaced as a result of the creation of Israel in Palestine. Out of those 2 million, about 300,000 of them still live in refugee camps, the rest has assimilated into the mainstream society.

Secondly, could you please provide some evidence for this wild claim that "that's where they come from in the main"? I realise it might be convenient for you to claim Palestinians are actually from Jordan, and that "Eretz Yisrael" was an empty land when the Jews arrived at the turn of the 20th. century, but don't try to pass it off as historical fact, because it simply is not.




My goodness what an anger issue you have, it needs attention professionally.

I don't intend on answering too much, as my typing is slow and I don't have the time.

I never said that the land where Israel now sits was empty [those are your words] However it was  VERY sparsely inhabited.

Don't argue on that score, as you will only show your ignorance.

From a British source and I never bothered with the link

"By the end of 1947, Palestine Mandate government estimates indicate that of a total population of 1.9 million" ( the Mandate was 118,000 sq klms, of which 77% went to Jordan)

...................... so where you get your figures from I don't know.

Estimates vary from about 520,000 (Israeli sources) to 711,000 (UN sources) on the numbers of Arabs who fled Israel at Partition in 1948, which would be about right, if you work it out.

Firstly Mark Twain made a strong point of it. So read his book.

Secondly, my father was taken as a 2 month old baby to Israel and I have tales galore of what Palestine was like back then.  Not only from my father, but from his mother and  7 remaining siblings. I say remaining. because one was killed at the age of 19, in 1922, by a bomb during the Arabs riots, which where in abundance during the 1920s. Another was killed in London is a freak accident.
My family in Israel are still in very close contact with the descendants of a number of Arabs, with whom they grew up.

The majority of Arabs in the Gaza Strip where those and their descendants, who were thrown out of Jordan during the era of the Black September movement. King Hussein said in no uncertain terms. that the country would not allow them back, as they were trouble makers, as we well know,   I think, because I don't have the link and don’t have the time or the inclination to go looking, you will have to take me on my word .  However, I can see from your rude, self serving, superior and insulting attitude, that you judge people by your own standards, so you most likely won't........tough luck.

Why are you Arabs so all consumed over a tiny country with a population of just
7 ½ million, which occupies 1/8th of 1% of the ME??  Maybe it’s the achievements that such a small group of people have reached.? 


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Reply #145 - Aug 31st, 2010 at 10:11am
 
Hey, remember how I suggested this? Well it seems that somebody is in the process of planning to build a gay bar next door to the proposed mosque Smiley

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/08/post-34.html

muso wrote on Aug 15th, 2010 at 9:08am:
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 14th, 2010 at 10:40pm:
You might be perverted enough to think gay bars are what typifies Western society, but I think most Westerners would disagree with it, and would be disgusted at having such filth represent them.


We could always compromise.  Maybe this mob would be interested in setting up a club in New York.  Cheesy
http://www.stichtingsecretgarden.nl/index_eng.html

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Secret Garden is a foundation for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) Muslims. Established in Amsterdam, Secret Garden has been set up in December 1994, with the intention to reach and bring together young Muslims who are transgender, or have homosexual or bisexual feelings.


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Reply #147 - Aug 31st, 2010 at 12:10pm
 
Why 'build' anything, just grow a wonderful Botanic Garden over the site? God, Allah, Yalweh knows what an efin dump the city is and needs some 02 pumped back into it ...before it kills even more people.
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Reply #148 - Aug 31st, 2010 at 1:56pm
 
Something slightly ironic about Pat Condell speaking of "phony manufactured grievances".
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Reply #149 - Aug 31st, 2010 at 6:13pm
 
Listen arsesignature, you sound like the Muslims, trying to justify your existance, screwing up your own countries then trying to take over others by osmosis, sitting back in the Balkins, looking at us with envious eyes, a goat under one arm and an AK47 in the other.
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