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Reply #120 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 3:07pm
 
Agree - it won't happen in our lifetime.
Such things like this - take some time.
But after the Moslems do to the French
something akin to what the Germans did to the Jews
both Jew & Moslem will eventually find a common enemy to settle their differences,
someone that will die for their sins you could say  Wink

So do you think the Italians will take a sympathy 'dive' and seek all of Europe to save their arse in the face of a combined Islamic-Israeli adversity ?
Reckon they will pull a 'sickie' - their way of choosing the Pro-Medical Europe over the Pro-Religious Middle-East ?

"Let the (Precious) Ring go..."

Who knows, maybe the Pope at the time might return something in the face of Islam/Israel and say "Sorry" (pause) "I will die for the sins of my Italian people instead"?
Who knows?

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Reply #121 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 3:09pm
 
“Arabs who left Israel in the 1948 are beginning to blame Arab countries for leaving them stateless after promising a quick return to “Palestine.” "They [Arab leaders] said, 'A week, two weeks, approximately, and you'll return to Palestine,'" Sadek Mufid, formerly of Akko (Acre) and now living in Lebanon, recently told Palestinian Authority television.”

“Fatah chief Mahmoud Abbas says the Arabs of the Galilee city of Tzfat left in 1948 not because they were driven out, but on their own volition.

Many biographies of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas imply that his family became “refugees” because of the War of Independence in 1948. For instance, a BBC profile on Abbas when he succeeded Yasser Arafat as PLO chairman in 2005 writes, “In the light of his origins in Safed in Galilee - in what is now northern Israel - he is said to hold strong views about the right of return of Palestinian refugees.” Answers.com states, “As a result of the Arab-Israel War of 1948, he became a refugee.” Wikipedia articles on the topic say the same –
all giving the impression that the Abbas family was driven out and became homeless.

However, Abbas himself – co-founder of Fatah with Arafat, and known as Abu Mazen - now tells a different story. Speaking with Al-Palestinia TV on Monday, Abbas admitted that his family was not expelled or driven out, but rather left for fear that the Jews might take revenge for the slaughter of 20 Jews in the city during the Arab pogroms of 19 years earlier.

In the words of Abbas:

“I am among those who were born in the city of Tzfat (Safed). We were a family of means. I studied in elementary school, and then came the naqba [calamity, namely, the founding of the State of Israel – ed.]. At night, we left by foot from Tzfat, to the Jordan River, where we remained for a month. Then we went to Damascus, and then to our relatives in Jordan, and then we settled in Damascus.

“My father had money, and he spent his money systematically, and after a year, the money ran out and we began to work.
“The people’s basic motives brought them to run away for their lives and with their property. These [motives] were very important, for they feared the violence of the Zionist terrorist organizations – and especially those of us from Tzfat felt that there was an old desire for revenge from the rebellion of 1929, and this was in the memory of our families and parents.”

The “rebellion” Abbas referred to was a series of brutal Arab attacks on Jewish towns in the summer of 1929. Nearly 70 Jews were slaughtered in their homes in Hevron, 20 in Tzfat, 17 in Jerusalem, and others were murdered in Motza, Kfar Uriah and Tel Aviv."

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Re: Ground Zero mosque defies logic
Reply #122 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 3:11pm
 
Sorry I think I posted this last time previously
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Reply #123 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 3:25pm
 
So it seems the Palestinians get shafted by other Islamic nations.
Guess it will get to the point where they will have nothing and I mean nothing.
What then?
I guess we will see the true measure of Israel then as it takes all the land of former Palestine and is left with a displaced 'people', all of whom are Moslem.
Will they be treated humanely? Given equal rights in an Israel nation?

Or will they be quietly gassed?

Careful what you ask for Israel, you might have to carry something far heavier than a Cross upon your back.
But I guess this is the process that will bring about the Unification or the Oneness of both Mohommedism and Judaism.

Unification isn't a positive outlook - its a fact that is so obvious. The other fact is how many Jews and Moslems behave in the face of such inevitability.

Queensland and NSW will bash each other senseless in the name of State of Origin Nation Redneck League, but they wil be the best of mates rather than with something entirely different like GayFL
...and even those two Codes would be best of mates under the Banner of Sport in the face of adveristy from, say ...the Farmers.

Better the Devil you know I guess Wink
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Reply #124 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 3:27pm
 
"The Palestinians left their homes in 1947-49 for a variety of reasons. Thousands of wealthy Arabs left in anticipation of a war, thousands more responded to Arab leaders’ calls to get out of the way of the advancing armies, a handful were expelled, but most simply fled to avoid being caught in the cross fire of a battle.

Many Arabs claim that 800,000 to 1,000,000 Palestinians became refugees in 1947-49.

The last census was taken by the British in 1945. It found approximately 1.2 million permanent Arab residents in
all
of Palestine.  (118,000 sq kms)

A 1949 Government of Israel census counted 160,000 Arabs living in the country after the war. In 1947, a total of 809,100 Arabs lived in the same area.

This meant no more than 650,000 Palestinian Arabs could have become refugees. A report by the UN Mediator on Palestine arrived at an even lower figure — 472,000, and calculated that only about 360,000 Arab refugees required aid
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Reply #125 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:57pm
 
Seems to me that if the Jews can exaggerate their Holocaust numbers then the Palestinians can exaggerate their Holocaust numbers too.

What ever the case, we should not let the matter of numbers detract us from the atrocities at question.
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Reply #126 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 7:14pm
 
both Jew & Moslem will eventually find a common enemy to settle their differences

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Lol And what enemy would that be, Jas ??

And invading and hostile alien force from outer space ?????  Cool
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Reply #127 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 7:19pm
 
stryder wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 7:14pm:
both Jew & Moslem will eventually find a common enemy to settle their differences

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Lol And what enemy would that be, Jas ??

And invading and hostile alien force from outer space ?????  Cool


Nah... t'will probably be the Christians.
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Reply #128 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 8:24pm
 
tl;dr - watch this...

Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2Muxoo0
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Reply #129 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 8:25pm
 
Sappho wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:57pm:
Seems to me that if the Jews can exaggerate their Holocaust numbers then the Palestinians can exaggerate their Holocaust numbers too.

What ever the case, we should not let the matter of numbers detract us from the atrocities at question.



Holocaust is the systematic, state-sponsored rounding up and killing of an identified ethnicity. This happened to the jews. It is not happening to the Arabs.


It is cheap and stupid to equate whatever attrocities are committed in the middle east, by arabs or jews, with the holocaust.  Arab citizens of israel have more rights than in any of the Arab countries. Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank are under the civil authority of other Arabs.

If they had any sense, they'd stop lobbing rockets at Israel and get the jews to help them build a proper society for themselves.
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Reply #130 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 9:00pm
 
When Israel gave "land for peace" in 1967, after both sides accepted United Nations Security Council Resolution 242. they left behind many farming businesses, which were flourishing. They did last long and neither did the peace agreed to by the Gazan Arabs
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Reply #131 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 8:36am
 
Seems that the Arabs and Jews have something in common, no one likes either of them. Islam is peace and the jews the meek, what a load of crap.
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Reply #132 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 8:50am
 
Sappho wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:57pm:
Seems to me that if the Jews can exaggerate their Holocaust numbers then the Palestinians can exaggerate their Holocaust numbers too.

What ever the case, we should not let the matter of numbers detract us from the atrocities at question.


Yes it is very powerful when you combine creating own Holywood mythology  and use that to cover up world crime historical activities.

For example was it Cosa Nostra? or real name was actually Cosher Nostra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwfFarPWpMI&p=AB65954BE61DCAE2&playnext=1&index=3

or Is it Russian mafia or some other Mafia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY3b_ns4CLU&p=690FB596B7A6AA3E&playnext=1&index=5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br2dz89vkAo

The problem with America is that can not find real uncorrupted patriot leader who will save the nation, as for example, Putin saved Russia from this the most powerful ruthless organized crime in the world history.

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
 
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Reply #133 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 9:15am
 
Lets face it, to salve their guilt after the Nazi atrocities and the allies turning back on the Jewish refugees during the war. Post WW2 they took land that was already occupied in the middle east and gave it to the Jews.

This was always going to cause ongoing conflict and misery and because it was a problem created largely by Britain and the USA it is up to them to clear the Jewish people out of the Middle East and find them somewhere more suitable..considering most of them are from Eastern Europe or decedents of Eastern Europeans Im sure there is a few spare hectares somewhere in their real homeland now the Russians have cleared out  Smiley
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Reply #134 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 9:32am
 
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Lets face it, to salve their guilt after the Nazi atrocities and the allies turning back on the Jewish refugees during the war. Post WW2 they took land that was already occupied in the middle east and gave it to the Jews.


..and then baby bear came home and said, "Somebody's been sleeping in my bed".....

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