Vanessa wrote on Aug 14^th, 2010 at 3:45pm:



Hitchens in Slate:

"Emboldened by the crass nature of the opposition to the center, its defenders have started to talk as if it represented no problem at all and as if the question were solely one of religious tolerance. It would be nice if this were true. But tolerance is one of the first and most awkward questions raised by any examination of Islamism. We are wrong to talk as if the only subject was that of terrorism. As Western Europe has already found to its cost, local Muslim leaders have a habit, once they feel strong enough, of making demands of the most intolerant kind. Sometimes it will be calls for censorship of anything "offensive" to Islam. Sometimes it will be demands for sexual segregation in schools and swimming pools. The script is becoming a very familiar one. And those who make such demands are of course usually quite careful to avoid any association with violence. They merely hint that, if their demands are not taken seriously, there just might be a teeny smidgeon of violence from some other unnamed quarter …"

Ziggy wrote on Aug 20^th, 2010 at 11:15am:


Ha! You've noticed.

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Yup, they sure do.

A mosque is not what we know as a house of prayer, such as a church, synagogue or temple.

Throughout history, Muslims have built a mosque as a celebration of victory.........hence the building of one as close as possible to the site of "victory" at the site of the World Trade Centre slaughter

Most people assume the mosque is simply a place where Muslims go to worship, almost like a “Muslim church,” but this is not really the full story.

You see, Islam is predominately a works-based system and unlike Christianity,Judaism, etc.., which are faith-based systems.  And how does the average Muslim know how he or she should act?  Allah has given them the perfect example in Mohammed. Muslims should imitate him.

While the Qu’ran is believed by Muslims to be the revelation of Allah’s word, the “perfect example” of Mohammed’s life, teachings and character are recorded in another body of writings called the Hadith.

These writings, called the Sunnah, record the way Mohammed lived and taught, and are used to interpret the Qu’ran and develop Islamic ideology.

Because Muslims view the mosque through Mohammed’s life, the role of the mosque can only be understood as it was used by Mohammed.  It would be a fatal error for us to assume that the mosque functions like a church. We must see the mosque in the context of Mohammed’s life.

Mohammed did indeed go to the mosque to worship.  Therefore it is a house of worship. He performed his prayers in the mosque and taught all Muslims that it is an important place to say prayers. Every Friday, Muslims around the world go to their local mosque and face toward the city of Mecca to perform their ritual prayers.

But worship for Mohammed was not limited to religious ritual. Worship is an entire way of life. For Mohammed, worship is about implementing Allah’s law. This is called Shariah law, and it encompasses every area of life. Shariah means “path.”  In the desert context from which it comes, it means “a path leading to water.”  While for the Christian, the words of Christ are “living water,” for the Muslim, it is this law which is a life-preserving force, and water in the desert.
Since worship is not merely religious ritual, Mohammed acted in his role as the supreme leader of the community and the mosque was his base of operation. Here are some examples of how Mohammed used the mosque to implement his all-encompassing Shariah law:

· He made legislative decrees from the mosque. It is the seat of legislative government.

· He taught his followers his ideology in the mosque. It is the educational seminary.

· He sent and received official delegations at the mosque.

· He conducted the affairs of the Islamic state, entertained heads of state, and appointed judges there. It is the seat of executive power.

· He issued legal decrees and developed Sharia law there.  It is the supreme court.

· He issued social decrees.  It is the social centre of the community.

· He proclaimed the superiority of Muslims over non-Muslims, issued death sentences against those who opposed him, and dispatched the executioners to carry out their duties.  It is the place and symbol of Islamic rule.

·He proclaimed the superiority of men over women at the mosque. It is place of inequality.
· It is where he issued marching orders, proclaimed jihad, and recognized his warriors. It is a military base.

In short, THE MOSQUE IS THE COMMAND AND CONTROL CENTRE OF ISLAM.

We were in "shock horror" when Israeli forces captured mosques or blew up those which were used as a weapons stores, as this explosion




Hamas Weapons in Mosque

Latest news says that hatred and tension rises among US citizens over building the mosque at Ground Zero.
A cab driver has been stabbed in New York after telling his passenger that he was Muslim.
Ahmed H Sharif was slashed in the face and neck after the passenger, 21-year-old Michael Enright, allegedly attacked him.
The attack came as tensions over plans to build a mosque at Ground Zero are threatening to spill over into the streets of New York and maybe over all America.



Victim: New York cab driver Ahmed H Sharif, 43, lies in New York's Bellevue Hospital after he was attacked and slashed across the neck, face and shoulders by a passenger he was driving because he said he was Muslim



Michael Enright handcuffed and shackled, is charged with the crimes. He could be facing up to 25 years in jail.

Typical way Christians deal things I guess. Beat them into accepting your dominance... and Muslims are supposedly the violent ones.

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Which had nothing to do with America liquidating 1 million or so Iraqi kids, or supplying weapons to the Zionist terrorists to murder and expel hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.... of course not.

3000 is a pretty insignificant number in comparison isn't it? Barely worth mentioning.

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 27^th, 2010 at 4:07pm:
Don't hold your breath...

This is OK I presume?



In October 2000, the Palestinian Arabs in Israel started a new war of terror against the Israeli nations. Terror attacks against Israeli civilians occured in every possible place in Israel.


In coffee shops and restaurants, On dozens of buses, In the middle of the street

Among the thousands of Israeli people who were murdered and injured, there were hundreds of children. Some of the attacks were deliberately intended against children and youth.

Some murdered in their beds while they were asleep