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Reply #15 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 8:46pm
 
Ask yourself, "For what would I bleed? For what would I sacrifice my life?"

That for which you are prepared to suffer
Is that which defines your life's meaning.
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Reply #16 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 8:56pm
 
Ask yourself, "For what would I bleed? For what would I sacrifice my life?"

That for which you are prepared to suffer
Is that which defines your life's meaning.

- Helian

Oooh now you've got me thinking .. VERY well said!
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Reply #17 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 9:03pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 8:56pm:
Ask yourself, "For what would I bleed? For what would I sacrifice my life?"

That for which you are prepared to suffer
Is that which defines your life's meaning.

- Helian

Oooh now you've got me thinking .. VERY well said!


More and more in the west people are also recognizing EQ but in particular SQ (Spiritual intelligence).

Spiritual Intelligence
Definitions

  1. Spiritual Intelligence is the ultimate intelligence which we address and solve problems of meaning and value, the intelligence with which we can place our actions and our lives in a wider, richer, meaning-giving context, the intelligence with which we can assess that one course of action or one life path is more meaningful than another (Zohar & Marshall).
  2. Spiritual Intelligence is not necessarily religious or even dependent upon religion as its foundation. It can be defined against or observed through some telling criteria such as: truthfulness, compassion, respect for all levels of consciousness, constructive empathy, a sense of being a player in a large whole, generosity of spirit and action, a seeking of being 'in tune' with or 'in synch' with nature of the universe, and being comfortable with being alone without being lonely (Clive Simpkins).
  3. Those who have Spiritual Intelligence: have the capacity for transcendence; have heightened consciousness; have the capacity to endow everyday activity with a sense of the sacred; use spiritual resources on practical problems; engage in virtuous behaviour (forgiveness, gratitude, humility, compassion and wisdom (Robert A. Emmons).
  4. The characteristics of Spiritual Intelligence are: awareness of others; wonder, awe, a sense of the numinous (astronomy, microbiology, cosmology); wisdom (proverbs, sages); perspective, ability to listen: "Be still and know that I am God"; comfort with chaos, dichotomy, paradox; commitment, dedication, faith; holds the promise or hope fulfilment (Illini Christian Faculty).
  5. Spiritual Intelligence is the ultimate way of knowing. We use it to envision unrealized possibilities and to transcend the methodical plod of life. We use it also to understand pain, to answer the basic philosophical questions about life and to find meaning both temporally and existentially (Cynthia R. Davis).
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Reply #18 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 9:28pm
 
There is no meaning to life itself.
The only thing which does have meaning is the  realisation that
we as humans are actually manifestations of a Universe able
to look upon itself.
This implies that the universe has consciousness via us
or any other intelligent beings - who may be out there.
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Reply #19 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 10:35pm
 
The meaning of life will be whatever the individual wants it to be. No, this isn't a 'feelgood' description, rather, people will find purpose in the smallest or superfluous things just to stave off existential anxiety.
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Reply #20 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 10:36pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 8:46pm:
Ask yourself, "For what would I bleed? For what would I sacrifice my life?"

That for which you are prepared to suffer
Is that which defines your life's meaning.



Not bad, not bad at all.
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Reply #21 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 10:49pm
 
Wow .. some very insightful posts happening in here tonight.

You've all got me thinking hard again lol Smiley
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If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Reply #22 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 7:48am
 
Sappho wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 7:21pm:
Why does Human Life have a meaning to be discovered and not all life? What makes the human 'special' in this regard?



How do you know that all other life doesn't ponder the meaning of life too????

Just because we can't ask them, doesn't mean they don't....
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #23 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 8:08am
 
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Reply #24 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 10:12am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 10:35pm:
The meaning of life will be whatever the individual wants it to be. No, this isn't a 'feelgood' description, rather, people will find purpose in the smallest or superfluous things just to stave off existential anxiety.  

That’s exactly what Ivan Frankl said. The meaning of our life has to be figured out by each of us.
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Reply #25 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 1:39pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 8:46pm:
Ask yourself, "For what would I bleed? For what would I sacrifice my life?"

That for which you are prepared to suffer
Is that which defines your life's meaning.


That affords meaningful 'meaning' to the very few Helian... to the De Sades, the Voltaires, the Adam Smiths, the Galileos etc...

But for the rest of us, the answer to that question is merely to sacrifice for our genetic heritage. In other words, most of us would sacrifice our life to save the life of our children.

So the continuance of DNA is the meaning of life for the bulk of humanity... and every other bloody species on this planet. How enlightening.... not!

Otherwise... it sounds pretty in a shallow kind of way... no wonder the others are suckered by it.

Now Soren on the other hand... he has addressed something that could actually have merit. He would say that it is Human thinking and its expression that gives meaning to Human life. There is something intrinsically meaningful in the act of thinking for Soren, but what that is... and how it differs from other thinking in other species that makes human thought intrinsically meaningful and others not.... is yet to be addressed.
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Reply #26 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 1:52pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 30th, 2010 at 7:48am:
Sappho wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 7:21pm:
Why does Human Life have a meaning to be discovered and not all life? What makes the human 'special' in this regard?



How do you know that all other life doesn't ponder the meaning of life too????

Just because we can't ask them, doesn't mean they don't....


You are asking the wrong person Gizmo... comprehension that has let you down. It is Soren to whom I address my questions and to whom you should have addressed yours.
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Reply #27 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 2:35pm
 
Sappho wrote on Sep 30th, 2010 at 1:52pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 30th, 2010 at 7:48am:
Sappho wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 7:21pm:
Why does Human Life have a meaning to be discovered and not all life? What makes the human 'special' in this regard?



How do you know that all other life doesn't ponder the meaning of life too????

Just because we can't ask them, doesn't mean they don't....


You are asking the wrong person Gizmo... comprehension that has let you down. It is Soren to whom I address my questions and to whom you should have addressed yours.


Are you sure...looked like your post....
'reply #12, 7.21pm yesterday'???
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #28 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 2:55pm
 
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How do you know that all other life doesn't ponder the meaning of life too????

Just because we can't ask them, doesn't mean they don't....

You are asking the wrong person Gizmo... comprehension that has let you down. It is Soren to whom I address my questions and to whom you should have addressed yours.

Are you sure...looked like your post....


Maybe if you didn't take it out of context, as you did, you would not be so confused about who said what to whom, as you are. Moreover, you treat my questions as though they are statements of opinion and they are not. They are definitely questions, asked as questions and using all the conventions of grammar required of questions. How you manage to glean some kind of opinion from a question is beyond me.

Here is the full post, found at the bottom of page one, from which you took one quote of mine then assumed a universe of possibilities.  

Sappho wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 8:42pm:
Soren wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 7:44pm:
Sappho wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 7:21pm:
Why does Human Life have a meaning to be discovered and not all life? What makes the human 'special' in this regard?


the thinking. and the articulation of the thinking.



Oh... I understand... the meaning of life has nothing to do with life and everything to do with thinking.

So um... what's the meaning of thinking then? Why is human thinking and its articulation more 'special' in this regard?


Is it clear to you now what is going on? If not, please explain what difficulties, specifically, you are having with English comprehension and I will try and assist.
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Reply #29 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 3:29pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 29th, 2010 at 10:35pm:
The meaning of life will be whatever the individual wants it to be. No, this isn't a 'feelgood' description, rather, people will find purpose in the smallest or superfluous things just to stave off existential anxiety.  


Nothing like a bit of existential futility in life to cause the hoards to run in the direction of self denial and build meaning stored in a house of cards.
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