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National Press Club Debate Swan And Hockey.
Aug 8th, 2010 at 8:14pm
 

Swan and Hockey to face off in debate


Federal Treasurer Wayne Swan and opposition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey are to follow their leaders in a head-to-head debate.

After last week's leaders' debate - which most commentators rated as an overly-managed and cautious contest - Mr Swan has declared he is relishing the prospect of spelling out the government's record.

The debate will be staged at the National Press Club on August 9.




Mr Swan said the government had got the big economic decisions right and had a plan to strengthen the economy and take it forward.

''I'm looking forward to contrasting our responsible economic plan and our record on job creation with Mr Hockey's uncosted promises and his record of getting the GFC so badly wrong, including his advice that would have sent Australia into recession,'' he said in a statement.

His remarks follow taunts from Mr Hockey suggesting Mr Swan was unwilling to front up.

''Wayne Swan is running away from me like a rabbit in the headlights,'' he said earlier this week.

''If Wayne Swan hasn't got the courage to debate me, how can he look the Australian people in the eye and say he really cares about the economy?"

Mr Swan said he understood some families were still doing it tough despite the good performance of the economy.

''And that's why Mr Hockey needs to explain in the debate why he wants to increase tax on groceries and deny millions of small business a substantial tax break,'' he said.

''If Mr Hockey can't present fully-costed policies or explain why families should pay more for their groceries, then he'll prove once and for all why he's not up to the job of Treasurer.''
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Reply #1 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 8:20pm
 
I can't wait. Swan should be able to answer 1 or 2 questions at his going rate  Grin
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Reply #2 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 8:31pm
 
LOL!  This will be good.  Joe Jockstrap vs Swan.  Sorry, 3 years in opposition aint gunna do the libs any thing at all.
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Reply #3 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 9:54pm
 
Joe is an acomplished pollie, he is going to stomp the backstabbing Swan into the ground.

If labor had any brains Tanner would have been treasure three years ago.
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Reply #4 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 10:15pm
 

hockeys pretty good.
abbotts a good leader and a competitor.
abbott will ensure joe is very well practised on all expected questions.

preparation is basics for every competitor.
every good leader ensures those under him are "up to the task"

abbott really impressing me with his application.
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Reply #5 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 12:01pm
 
Will be starting very soon, and should be interesting.
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Reply #6 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 12:51pm
 
Wow, Swans got nothing.
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Reply #7 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 1:15pm
 
Verge wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 12:51pm:
Wow, Swans got nothing.

But Hockeys got a taskforce.
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Reply #8 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 1:55pm
 
is it on tv ??
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Reply #9 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 2:13pm
 
I missed the second half.  Does anyone know where I can get a replay of it?
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Reply #10 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 2:18pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 1:55pm:
is it on tv ??

Its over sprint, Hockey has gone off to prepare to prepare to prepare for a taskforce, you can never prepare to early for one of those.
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Reply #11 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:48pm
 
Verge wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 2:13pm:
I missed the second half.  Does anyone know where I can get a replay of it?


Don't bother, I guarantee you can find a better alternative, for those 30 minutes!

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Reply #12 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:00pm
 
Hockey's $7b contradiction of Abbott

Opposition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey has contradicted his leader to the tune of $7 billion during today's federal election economic debate with Treasurer Wayne Swan.


Mr Hockey declared the coalition has announced $25.7 billion worth of spending measures during the campaign - just hours after Tony Abbott declared total spending would be under $18 billion.

Mr Hockey also provided an "absolute guarantee" that a coalition government would roll out its $8.8 billion paid parental leave scheme exactly as promised.

The coalition's parental leave scheme would be funded through a 1.5 per cent "temporary" levy on big business in line with the coalition's promised company tax cuts.

"Yes, I give that absolute guarantee," Mr Hockey said when asked if the scheme would be introduced untouched.

"We will roll out the paid parental leave scheme as it stands.

"It is affordable - we have indicated how we'd do it."

Mr Hockey debated Mr Swan at the National Press Club in Canberra this morning.

He said the coalition was only making promises it could deliver on.

"So far this election campaign, we have announced expenditure of $25.733 billion," he said.

"We've announced savings of $28.534 billion.

"So, so far we have $2.8 billion of net savings on the announced policies."

However, earlier today, Mr Abbott said the coalition's promised expenditure was less than $18 billion.

Mr Abbott said his election pledges were affordable because the coalition had identified $18 billion worth of genuine savings from recurrent expenditure, excluding the mining tax.

"Our promised expenditure is well under that ($18 billion)," he said.

"We will get back to surplus in 2012/13, and it will be a bigger surplus than the one that the Labor party is promising."

Asked to clarify that - "So you'll be spending under that $18 billion figure?" - Mr Abbott said, "Yes, that's correct."

During his opening remarks, Mr Swan said Labor had saved Australia from a "savage recession" by rolling out stimulus packages in the face of the global financial crisis.

He said there had been no choice but to go into deficit to save jobs, but Australia would be back in surplus "ahead of every single major advanced economy".

In response, Mr Hockey said the coalition had experience in paying back Labor-made mountains of deficit and debt.

"We have done it before, we will do it again," he said.

"In this election campaign we are only making promises that we can deliver."

The most contentious point of the debate revolved around which party had delivered lower interest rates.

Mr Hockey said a quick look at the Reserve Bank’s website showed the coalition had won that battle.

‘‘It will prove that even taking into account the economic downturn of the last three years, interest rates are lower under the coalition over 11 years of government,’’ he said.

Mr Swan dismissed the claim as one of the more incredulous claims he’d heard from the opposition treasury spokesman.

‘‘For Joe to say when the cash rate is 4.45 per cent that somehow interest rates are always lower under the coalition is one of the bigger distortions I’ve heard from him,’’ the Treasurer said.

At its peak, the official cash rate hit 6.75 per cent under the coalition’s watch.

But Mr Hockey countered, by saying that no-one was ‘‘out there’’ borrowing at the RBA cash rate.

Instead they were borrowing at an ‘‘effective interest rate’’.

That rate, under Labor during the past three years, was 7.41 per cent, while under the coalition it was 7.27 per cent.

Mr Swan said the coalition liked to pretend that the global recession never happened.

On housing, he said Labor had begun the hard work to solve a shortage by implementing reforms through COAG, while it would continue to ‘‘refine the settings’’ to keep the sector afloat.

But Mr Hockey rubbished his rival’s bid to talk up the government’s efforts on public housing.

He said a recent visit to projects in Cairns at Bluewater and Palm Cove confirmed the worst of his fears.

‘‘They will become signature examples of the waste of the stimulus package,’’ he said.

Mr Hockey also was asked what the coalition’s proposed debt reduction taskforce would achieve that couldn’t be done by the auditor-general, the finance department and cabinet’s razor gang.

He said the taskforce would focus ‘‘on identifying in particular if Labor has not told us the truth about their programs’’.

‘‘What we’ve identified recently is a whole lot of programs the government has announced which, oops, have turned out to cost more or be failures.’’

Mr Swan said the taskforce was designed to hide the coalition’s real agenda until after the election.

‘‘So far 98 per cent of that (coalition) $27 billion of spending commitments has not been submitted to Treasury and finance,’’ he said.

‘‘And that shows they do have a hidden agenda and what they will do after the election is take a savage axe to all of the services that they’ve not been prepared to admit to before the election.’’

Mr Hockey responded by saying the coalition introduced the charter of budget honesty.

At the last election Labor lodged 85 per cent of their policies for costing just 12 hours before polling day, he said.

‘‘We have already submitted 36 policies. We will get our policies - all of our policies - to the Treasury before polling day.’’

Mr Hockey said the coalition would meet finance’s deadline.

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Reply #13 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:02pm
 
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/economy/hockeys-7b-contradiction-of-abbot...

Cocky Coalition has costed just 1% of policy promises

BETWEEN them, Tony Abbott and Nationals leader Warren Truss announced three new measures at yesterday's Coalition policy launch. But none of them were costed, and one was not even fleshed out.

It's a measure of the Coalition's confidence that it no longer feels obliged to spell out what its policies will cost, or how they will be funded. Its campaign is going like a dream; everyone's focus is on Labor divisions. Why rock the boat?

With four days left before the deadline for submitting policies for costing, the Coalition's running tally of new spending measures and tax cuts is almost $40 billion.

Yet just six measures totalling $288 million - less than 1 per cent of that - have been sent for costing.


Its three initiatives yesterday had no costing at all. They included:

■ relaxing the work test for rural students to receive the youth allowance, which Labor costed at up to $270 million over four years.

■ a breathtaking yet unspecified proposal to offer guaranteed jobs to ''young indigenous people and others trapped in intergenerational poverty'' if they give up their rights to welfare payments.

■ the offer to reimburse householders for inspections - and if necessary, removal - of Pink Batts installed under Labor's home insulation program. Opposition environment spokesman Greg Hunt said this could be funded within the existing program. Well, with respect, that depends how many people use it, and how many Pink Batts need to be removed.

Meanwhile, Treasurer Wayne Swan announced:

■ the cost of a passport will be increased by $18 from January 1, from $208 to $226, and be indexed annually thereafter for inflation (raising $193 million over the next four years)

■ the Tax Office will get more resources to pursue tax fraud, especially by businessmen setting up 'phoenix' companies - letting one business die with unpaid debts, then starting up a new one.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/cocky-coalition-has-costed-just-1-of-poli...


Those lefty bastards at Fairfax are asking too many questions. Grin
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Reply #14 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:03pm
 
Verge wrote on Aug 8th, 2010 at 9:54pm:
Joe is an acomplished pollie, he is going to stomp the backstabbing Swan into the ground.

If labor had any brains Tanner would have been treasure three years ago.



I`m tipping that we`ll find that Tanner wasn`t in on the backstabing circle, while Swan and Gillard are the big winners for the moment.
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