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Latest Nielsen Poll; TPP : Coalition 52 /  ALP 48 (Read 13769 times)
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Re: Latest Nielsen Poll; TPP : Coalition 52 /  ALP 48
Reply #45 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:07pm
 

nichy wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 2:53pm:
There are still three weeks to go,  much and all as I'd like to think it's cut and dried for the Coalition I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.  

I can't bear the thought of Julia Gillard as Prime Minister .


LOL...as if Tony Abbott is anywhere near being a model statesperson!?

The thought of him being installed as PM definitely scares the crap outta me!


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Reply #46 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:08pm
 
Equitist wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:05pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 2:55pm:
The only prediction I made about this election when it was announced was that it was unpredictable. it began with polls suggesting a large swing to labor and now it is a large swing in the opposite direction. Who can tell?


Agreed - and such extraordinary swings are rarely validated in subsequent polls (not least because the preceding poll questions vary from poll to poll)...

BTW methinks that your apparent gloating is both immature and premature...

Roll Eyes


and so we return to the 'rogue poll' comments...

the polls have been all over the place all year indicating a high degree of volatility in the electorate. but they are starting to show more with libs in front. the election is far from over but it is faintly ridiculous not to acknowledge that labor is in real trouble and risking loss.  the closer to the election the the more accurate polls are.
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Reply #47 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:10pm
 
Equitist wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:07pm:
nichy wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 2:53pm:
There are still three weeks to go,  much and all as I'd like to think it's cut and dried for the Coalition I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.  

I can't bear the thought of Julia Gillard as Prime Minister .


LOL...as if Tony Abbott is anywhere near being a model statesperson!?

The thought of him being installed as PM definitely scares the crap outta me!




Get used to it!!!! LOL
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Reply #48 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:10pm
 
It's early days, there's much that can happen between now and the election, though this said, it's looking good.

Cool I am very pleased with the poll results, though I'm not about to get complacent about it as this would be a big mistake I think.



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Reply #49 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:12pm
 
Labor are no great shakes when it comes to public health education and housing either, that's why its important to have the Greens with the balance of power in the Senate no matter who gets the top job  Smiley
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Reply #50 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:13pm
 

adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 2:56pm:
It will be interesting to see if the Greens can grab the balance of power in the senate.
Big Joe Hockey will always get back in, in my electorate no matter how I vote but I can make my vote count in the Senate.
The missus is a rusted on Lib voter and she's pretty chuffed the Libs are in front and powering along, personally, I like Big Joe and the rest of the "Wets" in the Liberal Party but I cant stand Tony Abbott and the "Drys"  Smiley
Vote Green in the Senate if you dont want to see public health and public education cut to ribbons   Smiley



Agreed - I am in a safe Lab seat (which is amongst a few marginals) - and I am keen for the Greens to hold the balance of power in the Senate...

After the hard lessons of the Howardian Era, I definitely don't want either of the LibLabs to ever gain an effective-dictatorship by controlling both houses of parliament...
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Reply #51 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:15pm
 
LOL...as if Tony Abbott is anywhere near being a model statesperson!?

The thought of him being installed as PM definitely scares the crap outta me!....thy equitist


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thy you are so full of it, it will probably do you the world of good.



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Reply #52 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:25pm
 
Its no good losing sleep over who is going to get in..the only vote we have control over is our own.
Labor, Coalition, Green or the Alliance of Unified Mermaid Stalkers..who ever gets the majority of the vote deserves to be there and life goes on as it always does  Smiley
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Reply #53 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 3:48pm
 
I think more than anything else, Australians want a stable and capable government which is focused on getting the job done.

Labor are too consumed with managing their own in-party squabbles, of which smacks of instability and poor leadership.

When we have Wayne Swan , Labors Deputy Prime Minister and Treasurer  believed to be leaking information to the media, you have to ask yourself why.

Most dysfunctional~

Live by the sword die by the sword... it was only a matter of time before the honeymoon effect wore off and voters both male and female woke up to the fact that Labor was both untrustworthy and undependable.

In other words... "Yes, it was lovely having our very first female PM, though we really need a government that's capable of getting the job done"

Labor is a sneaky underhanded machine which threw a spanner in it's own works.

They only have themselves to blame.

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Reply #54 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 4:04pm
 
Those from the yahoo forum will note that I stated 8 months ago that the libs would win and I put $1000 on the coalition at $5.

I am out in the community everyday in ppls household from all sectors of teh community and 8 or so months ago, talk about how pathetic the labor gov was became so evident.

people have turned I have neen saying it for a long time only to be ridiculed. But alot of what I have written has eventuated.

Rudd will be toast next election, already gone.

An ETS will sink labor, has been put on the back burner.

NBN will not get off the ground.

The mining tax was a stupid policy to stack your reputation on.
gillard will call a snap election to take advantage of a bounce in the polls during the winter recession to avoid any question time scrutiny of its diabolical policy failures.

Border protection relaxation would lead to a massive surge in boats.

Gillard will the the shortest serving PM in our history.
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Reply #55 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 4:20pm
 
Let me get this right..you wander around the country bothering people about politics?
Ive rarely heard any of my clients or business associates mention politics or who they think should be running this or any other country.
Im usually to busy discussing work, contracts or personal day to day issues or just socialising and having fun with clients, family and friends and I highly doubt the average person gives a rats tossbag who is running the country.
You're in the community every day telling people how bad the Labor govt is?..Honestly, you need to get a life and enjoy yourself a bit  Smiley
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Reply #56 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 4:30pm
 
laborfornever wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 4:04pm:
Those from the yahoo forum will note that I stated 8 months ago that the libs would win and I put $1000 on the coalition at $5.

I am out in the community everyday in ppls household from all sectors of teh community and 8 or so months ago, talk about how pathetic the labor gov was became so evident.

people have turned I have neen saying it for a long time only to be ridiculed. But alot of what I have written has eventuated.

Rudd will be toast next election, already gone.

An ETS will sink labor, has been put on the back burner.

NBN will not get off the ground.

The mining tax was a stupid policy to stack your reputation on.
gillard will call a snap election to take advantage of a bounce in the polls during the winter recession to avoid any question time scrutiny of its diabolical policy failures.

Border protection relaxation would lead to a massive surge in boats.

Gillard will the the shortest serving PM in our history.




An interesting site :

http://campaignpulse.abc.net.au/


notice the average of all polls. Yes Liberals are improving yet have you blown $1000 bucks !!!


and what if Greens win the balance in both houses, do Liberal and Labor bets lose?
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Reply #57 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 5:06pm
 
I don't think the Greens donkey-votes will be enough to worry about as the election draws near.

The Greens have become a power-brokering party in their own right, and like Labor, have well and truly lost their way where their own parties ethics are concerned, and whilst I have always been opposed to some of their rather out-there policies, I do think I preferred them better when they were functioning as a genuine party, this opposed to the silent-supporters of someone else's.

Even Greens Leader Bob Brown is opposed to the system his party employ to earn themselves seats in the senate....well, so he says.

Guaranteed, if Greens votes are what determine the outcome of this election, this and manage to scrape Labor through by the skin of it's teeth Greens as a party will never live it down.

I think they know this which is why SA greens boycotted their national preference system (their How to vote Greens cards) , and I think others are contemplating doing this also...so you might find as the election draws closer and (IF) Liberal continues to increase in popularity, Greens  balance-of-power may shift...as might their preferences.

Smiley I hope so.  

They should listen to their leader on this, because it only stands to hurt their credibility more in the long run...should they be referred to the Australian Preference Party, APP, this and continue to lose touch with their own sense of political autonomy.

Seats in the senate or not, we are talking about the overall credibility of a party here, and if a 'clunker' Labor party wins this election, purely because Greens  sold them preferences, then those who unwittingly voted 'How-to-vote-Green' this time, wont again next time, guaranteed, thus will cost them at the 2013 election after a dysfunctional Labor party has reeked it's havoc.

I would be trying to remain as neutral as possible if I were them, or at least preference both leading party's 60/40 (in favour of Labor) if they genuinely do prefer Labors climate or environmental policies.

Because at least this way, they wont be held accountable if Labor do manage to get in and destroys what's left of our economy...this and wont be left holding the baby.i


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Reply #58 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 5:10pm
 
mellie wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 5:06pm:
I don't think the Greens donkey-votes will be enough to worry about as the election draws near.




Well donkeys do vote green


And shouldn't the greens be referred to as the ALP - coalition, as afterall they are in bed together!
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Reply #59 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 5:25pm
 
Either way, if Labor do manage to get in due to Greens preferences, they will inevitably be referred to as that how-to-vote party who cant stand on it's own two feet that preferences parties for their own political gain.

Can you imagine how many green voters they will lose once Labor introduce mandatory censorship, when they themselves realise that their Green vote was what made censorship possible, despite Greens having openly opposed censorship itself?

A vote for Greens is inadvertently a vote for Labor!

This is why this party appeals more to naive/youth/uninformed voters.

By voting for the Greens, (should Labor win)..they will have effectively cut off their green noses to spite their face, when they can no longer google what they used to because "Labor says no!i
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