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Re: Why Change?
Reply #15 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:20am

mantra wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:10am:

The media is doing a great hatchet job on Labor. I hope the ALP ramp up their negative advertising, but it's hard to stoop to the low vitriol that the Libs and their supporters do.

Labor might be "borrowing" $100 million a day - but if they stopped immediately - all services would come to a halt - after all we are a nation of 24 million and we are supposed to be in a recession.

If Abbott gets in he will just finish off the job Howard intended to complete for Australia. The purse strings will be tightened immediately on public services - while private industry and the wealthy get an increase in the handouts they have relied upon for so long.

Labor is trying to wean people off welfare and has introduced wage indexing which is something Howard never did. Welfare which is intended for the needy, has become welfare for the greedy.

If Abbott wins and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition. i

So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

2) we are a nation of 22Million not 24 million. FAIL

3) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL

4) We are not in recession, nor have we been since the last Labor got (Keating). FAIL

5) Howard let australia to its greatest ever prosperity. We can only HOPE that Abbott will finish off Howards job. FAIL

6) Public services and welfare increased more under Howard than anyone ever before. FAIL

7) The 'depression' wont hit us or anyone else either. USA and Europe are going to have along painful recovery and possibly another recession. We however wil continue to do moderately well.

So your post was totally full of errors! typical labor supporter!

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Re: Why Change?
Reply #16 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:21am

skippy. wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:15am:

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If Abbott does get in and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition.

The tards will blame Labor, everone else will be waiting with a baseball bat for Abbott.

The 'tards actually vote Labor.

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Re: Why Change?
Reply #17 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:11am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:20am:

mantra wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:10am:

The media is doing a great hatchet job on Labor. I hope the ALP ramp up their negative advertising, but it's hard to stoop to the low vitriol that the Libs and their supporters do.

Labor might be "borrowing" $100 million a day - but if they stopped immediately - all services would come to a halt - after all we are a nation of 24 million and we are supposed to be in a recession.

If Abbott gets in he will just finish off the job Howard intended to complete for Australia. The purse strings will be tightened immediately on public services - while private industry and the wealthy get an increase in the handouts they have relied upon for so long.

Labor is trying to wean people off welfare and has introduced wage indexing which is something Howard never did. Welfare which is intended for the needy, has become welfare for the greedy.

If Abbott wins and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition. i

So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

2) we are a nation of 22Million not 24 million. FAIL

3) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL

4) We are not in recession, nor have we been since the last Labor got (Keating). FAIL

5) Howard let australia to its greatest ever prosperity. We can only HOPE that Abbott will finish off Howards job. FAIL

6) Public services and welfare increased more under Howard than anyone ever before. FAIL

7) The 'depression' wont hit us or anyone else either. USA and Europe are going to have along painful recovery and possibly another recession. We however wil continue to do moderately well.

So your post was totally full of errors! typical labor supporter!

longy tell us how much the pensions increase in 11 years Howard was in, beside the CPI increases and I am not talking about the increase for the self funded retirees

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Re: Why Change?
Reply #18 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:13am

John S wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:20am:

mantra wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:10am:

The media is doing a great hatchet job on Labor. I hope the ALP ramp up their negative advertising, but it's hard to stoop to the low vitriol that the Libs and their supporters do.

Labor might be "borrowing" $100 million a day - but if they stopped immediately - all services would come to a halt - after all we are a nation of 24 million and we are supposed to be in a recession.

If Abbott gets in he will just finish off the job Howard intended to complete for Australia. The purse strings will be tightened immediately on public services - while private industry and the wealthy get an increase in the handouts they have relied upon for so long.

Labor is trying to wean people off welfare and has introduced wage indexing which is something Howard never did. Welfare which is intended for the needy, has become welfare for the greedy.

If Abbott wins and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition. i

So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

2) we are a nation of 22Million not 24 million. FAIL

3) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL

4) We are not in recession, nor have we been since the last Labor got (Keating). FAIL

5) Howard let australia to its greatest ever prosperity. We can only HOPE that Abbott will finish off Howards job. FAIL

6) Public services and welfare increased more under Howard than anyone ever before. FAIL

7) The 'depression' wont hit us or anyone else either. USA and Europe are going to have along painful recovery and possibly another recession. We however wil continue to do moderately well.

So your post was totally full of errors! typical labor supporter!

longy tell us how much the pensions increase in 11 years Howard was in, beside the CPI increases and I am not talking about the increase for the self funded retirees

Rough, tell us the reason why Gillard didn't support a pension increase please?

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Re: Why Change?
Reply #20 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:18am

John S wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:20am:

mantra wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:10am:

The media is doing a great hatchet job on Labor. I hope the ALP ramp up their negative advertising, but it's hard to stoop to the low vitriol that the Libs and their supporters do.

Labor might be "borrowing" $100 million a day - but if they stopped immediately - all services would come to a halt - after all we are a nation of 24 million and we are supposed to be in a recession.

If Abbott gets in he will just finish off the job Howard intended to complete for Australia. The purse strings will be tightened immediately on public services - while private industry and the wealthy get an increase in the handouts they have relied upon for so long.

Labor is trying to wean people off welfare and has introduced wage indexing which is something Howard never did. Welfare which is intended for the needy, has become welfare for the greedy.

If Abbott wins and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition. i

So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

2) we are a nation of 22Million not 24 million. FAIL

3) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL

4) We are not in recession, nor have we been since the last Labor got (Keating). FAIL

5) Howard let australia to its greatest ever prosperity. We can only HOPE that Abbott will finish off Howards job. FAIL

6) Public services and welfare increased more under Howard than anyone ever before. FAIL

7) The 'depression' wont hit us or anyone else either. USA and Europe are going to have along painful recovery and possibly another recession. We however wil continue to do moderately well.

So your post was totally full of errors! typical labor supporter!

longy tell us how much the pensions increase in 11 years Howard was in, beside the CPI increases and I am not talking about the increase for the self funded retirees

at least you recognise that pensions had CPI increases. that already makes you better informed than your average labor supporter. But you surely must recognise that when we are talking about welfare payments we are talking about more than just pensions. Some increased in real terms. some did not. and other payments were added to the mix. it still amounts to the biggest increase in welfare payments in history.

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Re: Why Change?
Reply #21 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:19am

iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:13am:

John S wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:20am:

mantra wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:10am:

The media is doing a great hatchet job on Labor. I hope the ALP ramp up their negative advertising, but it's hard to stoop to the low vitriol that the Libs and their supporters do.

Labor might be "borrowing" $100 million a day - but if they stopped immediately - all services would come to a halt - after all we are a nation of 24 million and we are supposed to be in a recession.

If Abbott gets in he will just finish off the job Howard intended to complete for Australia. The purse strings will be tightened immediately on public services - while private industry and the wealthy get an increase in the handouts they have relied upon for so long.

Labor is trying to wean people off welfare and has introduced wage indexing which is something Howard never did. Welfare which is intended for the needy, has become welfare for the greedy.

If Abbott wins and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition. i

So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

2) we are a nation of 22Million not 24 million. FAIL

3) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL

4) We are not in recession, nor have we been since the last Labor got (Keating). FAIL

5) Howard let australia to its greatest ever prosperity. We can only HOPE that Abbott will finish off Howards job. FAIL

6) Public services and welfare increased more under Howard than anyone ever before. FAIL

7) The 'depression' wont hit us or anyone else either. USA and Europe are going to have along painful recovery and possibly another recession. We however wil continue to do moderately well.

So your post was totally full of errors! typical labor supporter!

longy tell us how much the pensions increase in 11 years Howard was in, beside the CPI increases and I am not talking about the increase for the self funded retirees

Rough, tell us the reason why Gillard didn't support a pension increase please?

I ask the question first so answer it then I will answer yours or can't you answer it.

You always answer a question with a question

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Why Change? Reply #22 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:20am Imagine if Howard had used Gillards reasoning and refused to increase welfare payments or removed them becase 'they dont vote for us'? We used to have a PM of integrity then we got Rudd/Gillard. ugh:(
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Re: Why Change?
Reply #23 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:26am

So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

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Sad that you feel its ok, by giving them an excuse , for the media to rule or sway our elections for personal gain...

This mind set is why the world is going under....

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Re: Why Change?
Reply #24 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:37am

John S wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:19am:

iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:13am:

John S wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:20am:

mantra wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:10am:

The media is doing a great hatchet job on Labor. I hope the ALP ramp up their negative advertising, but it's hard to stoop to the low vitriol that the Libs and their supporters do.

Labor might be "borrowing" $100 million a day - but if they stopped immediately - all services would come to a halt - after all we are a nation of 24 million and we are supposed to be in a recession.

If Abbott gets in he will just finish off the job Howard intended to complete for Australia. The purse strings will be tightened immediately on public services - while private industry and the wealthy get an increase in the handouts they have relied upon for so long.

Labor is trying to wean people off welfare and has introduced wage indexing which is something Howard never did. Welfare which is intended for the needy, has become welfare for the greedy.

If Abbott wins and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition. i

So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

2) we are a nation of 22Million not 24 million. FAIL

3) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL

4) We are not in recession, nor have we been since the last Labor got (Keating). FAIL

5) Howard let australia to its greatest ever prosperity. We can only HOPE that Abbott will finish off Howards job. FAIL

6) Public services and welfare increased more under Howard than anyone ever before. FAIL

7) The 'depression' wont hit us or anyone else either. USA and Europe are going to have along painful recovery and possibly another recession. We however wil continue to do moderately well.

So your post was totally full of errors! typical labor supporter!

longy tell us how much the pensions increase in 11 years Howard was in, beside the CPI increases and I am not talking about the increase for the self funded retirees

Rough, tell us the reason why Gillard didn't support a pension increase please?

I ask the question first so answer it then I will answer yours or can't you answer it.

You always answer a question with a question

Actually rough you silly prick it's Green that does that, NOT me.

And in answer to the question, "Between 1996 and 2007, pensions increased by 2 per cent a year ahead of inflation".

Cheesy

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Re: Why Change?
Reply #25 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:38am

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So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

==============================

Sad that you feel its ok, by giving them an excuse , for the media to rule or sway our elections for personal gain...

This mind set is why the world is going under....

I could explain what I was saying, but that would require you to have a brain. FAIL.

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Re: Why Change?
Reply #26 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:39am

iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:37am:

John S wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:19am:

iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:13am:

John S wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:20am:

mantra wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:10am:

The media is doing a great hatchet job on Labor. I hope the ALP ramp up their negative advertising, but it's hard to stoop to the low vitriol that the Libs and their supporters do.

Labor might be "borrowing" $100 million a day - but if they stopped immediately - all services would come to a halt - after all we are a nation of 24 million and we are supposed to be in a recession.

If Abbott gets in he will just finish off the job Howard intended to complete for Australia. The purse strings will be tightened immediately on public services - while private industry and the wealthy get an increase in the handouts they have relied upon for so long.

Labor is trying to wean people off welfare and has introduced wage indexing which is something Howard never did. Welfare which is intended for the needy, has become welfare for the greedy.

If Abbott wins and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition. i

So many errors, so little space...

1) you didnt mind the media support Rudd at the last election - including Murdoch. So your complaint is based on hypocirsy, not principle. FAIL

2) we are a nation of 22Million not 24 million. FAIL

3) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL

4) We are not in recession, nor have we been since the last Labor got (Keating). FAIL

5) Howard let australia to its greatest ever prosperity. We can only HOPE that Abbott will finish off Howards job. FAIL

6) Public services and welfare increased more under Howard than anyone ever before. FAIL

7) The 'depression' wont hit us or anyone else either. USA and Europe are going to have along painful recovery and possibly another recession. We however wil continue to do moderately well.

So your post was totally full of errors! typical labor supporter!

longy tell us how much the pensions increase in 11 years Howard was in, beside the CPI increases and I am not talking about the increase for the self funded retirees

Rough, tell us the reason why Gillard didn't support a pension increase please?

I ask the question first so answer it then I will answer yours or can't you answer it.

You always answer a question with a question

Actually rough you silly prick it's Green that does that, NOT me.

And in answer to the question, "Between 1996 and 2007, pensions increased by 2 per cent a year ahead of inflation".

Cheesy

ouch! that was an inconvenient answer! I wonder how the labor supports are handling that one?

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vegitamite Ex Member	Re: Why Change? Reply #27 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:44am 5) Howard let australia to its greatest ever prosperity. We can only HOPE that Abbott will finish off Howards job. FAIL ============================ What DID Howard do to create, or take the credit, for that time? As far as I can see he was just mostly lucky ! Prove me wrong - I dont mind ?
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vegitamite Ex Member	Re: Why Change? Reply #28 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:46am ) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL ================================== Oh boy. where to start if only I had more time . You need to listen to the types OF investments and how they benefit....
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Re: Why Change?
Reply #29 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:49am

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) the continued borrowing is to pay for a stimulus that is not needed now and to pay for hopelss programs liek BER. Services would not 'all stop'. FAIL
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Oh boy. where to start if only I had more time . You need to listen to the types OF investments and how they benefit....

Vegetable are you referring to COLA's and new classrooms to replace existing classrooms? Yeah that's a real Education Revolution. LOL, they'll really help the kiddies in the future life.

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