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Jul 27th, 2010 at 8:32pm
 
We have a current government that has seen australia through the worst crisis' since the great depression.  mistakes have been made, but by and large, Labor have received good international accolades and PR about the way they have handled and steered australia over the last three years

Why Change?  why risk it all on a faded Opposition that has little scope for improvement?     Why elect a party whose front bench is the epitomy of incompetence?   Kerosene anyone?

Labor may not be perfect, but they sure outway the alternative! Cheesy
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Reply #1 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 8:57pm
 
After 3 years of Rudd, everyone knows that Howard was turfed out for the wrong reason and giving Rudd and the ALP a go was a dreadful example of collective pique by the pampered and spoiled electorate.

The ALP was not and still is not ready for government.

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Reply #2 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 9:06pm
 
Ok so lets run with keeping us alive during the GFC as the govs only success during its term, which is probably correct everything else it did was a diabolical failure.


however at what cost has it been to us now and future generations that laborsdrunken spending "may"have kept us afloat.

the debt is expected to top 200 billion in 2013.

Actually say that figure 200 billion, that has been the cost to this country for labor possibly keeping us afloat, spending borrowed money throwing billions at anything.

How is labor going to repay this if they can only project a 3 billion dollar surplus in 2013, how many decades to repay??

Atleast the the libs have a proven track record on fiscal management.

Your prepared to vote in a mob who has demonstrated NO responsibillity when it comes to money. You all say we need to act on climate now to protect future generations, why don't you have the same veiw when it comes to the finances of this country?????
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Reply #3 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 9:50pm
 
ethelsidebottom wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 8:32pm:
We have a current government that has seen australia through the worst crisis' since the great depression.



What did they actually do?

Their claim is job creation.  Is that how you see it?
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Reply #4 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:50pm
 
laborfornever wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 9:06pm:
Ok so lets run with keeping us alive during the GFC as the govs only success during its term, which is probably correct everything else it did was a diabolical failure.


however at what cost has it been to us now and future generations that laborsdrunken spending "may"have kept us afloat.

the debt is expected to top 200 billion in 2013.

Actually say that figure 200 billion, that has been the cost to this country for labor possibly keeping us afloat, spending borrowed money throwing billions at anything.

How is labor going to repay this if they can only project a 3 billion dollar surplus in 2013, how many decades to repay??

Atleast the the libs have a proven track record on fiscal management.

Your prepared to vote in a mob who has demonstrated NO responsibillity when it comes to money. You all say we need to act on climate now to protect future generations, why don't you have the same veiw when it comes to the finances of this country?????


I have ask this question heaps of times and no one can give me an answer.

So tell me L4N why do all of a sudden do we have to have a budget in suplus?

We went 85 years without the budget being in suplus and we never went broke, is that all you liberals think about money and nothing else?
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Reply #5 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:53pm
 
doh...deficit is debt, surplus is savings. Deficit = inflation; Inflation = higher interest rates; higher interest rates = higher house mortgage rates and higher grocery prices and higher every prices, except wages.
Got is yet? or nyet? You *must* be a labor voter eh. Get out the credit cards -  paaardy tyyyme!!!  
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Reply #6 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 11:06pm
 
shampain socialist wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:53pm:
doh...deficit is debt, surplus is savings. Deficit = inflation; Inflation = higher interest rates; higher interest rates = higher house mortgage rates and higher grocery prices and higher every prices, except wages.
Got is yet? or nyet? You *must* be a labor voter eh. Get out the credit cards -  paaardy tyyyme!!!  


What was the interest rate when Menzie was in power? The budget was in deficit all the time he was in. I bet they were lower then when Howard was in.

Keating budget in 1986 was the first ever budget that was in surplus. All you liberals keep telling as that interest rates were 17% then.
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Reply #7 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 11:17pm
 
John S wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 11:06pm:
shampain socialist wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:53pm:
doh...deficit is debt, surplus is savings. Deficit = inflation; Inflation = higher interest rates; higher interest rates = higher house mortgage rates and higher grocery prices and higher every prices, except wages.
Got is yet? or nyet? You *must* be a labor voter eh. Get out the credit cards -  paaardy tyyyme!!!  


What was the interest rate when Menzie was in power? The budget was in deficit all the time he was in. I bet they were lower then when Howard was in.

Keating budget in 1986 was the first ever budget that was in surplus. All you liberals keep telling as that interest rates were 17% then.



and they were. the point about budget deficits is that they fuel inflation and if they get out of hand they can become deadly. Why is it that the same labor supporters that moan and groan about personal debt int his country applaud labor for govt debt? hypocrisy anyone? but the point most worth noting is that australia is the only western country to survive the GFC unscathed. so perhaps what we did - surplus and zero debt - was the major reason? up until the last 15 years australia was subject to every international recession and downturn. much of that reason was that our debt burden linked us inextricably to the rest of the worlds woes. by ridding ourselves of that link we made the task of staying afloat in difficult waters all that much easier.
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Reply #8 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 8:09am
 
and they were. the point about budget deficits is that they fuel inflation and if they get out of hand they can become deadly. Why is it that the same labor supporters that moan and groan about personal debt int his country applaud labor for govt debt? hypocrisy anyone? but the point most worth noting is that australia is the only western country to survive the GFC unscathed. so perhaps what we did - surplus and zero debt - was the major reason? up until the last 15 years australia was subject to every international recession and downturn. much of that reason was that our debt burden linked us inextricably to the rest of the worlds woes. by ridding ourselves



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so true longy..selective memory helps some forget that though.. debt is very very costly today. we are a small nation to have such a huge debt.how this Labor govt can predict what will happen in 3 years time when they didnt see what would happen with their roof insulation debacle even after they were told adnauseum, gives me hives just thinking about it..what also makes them think the Libs wouldnt have steered us through the GFC I dont know..in fact we may have even come though with half the debt ,we will never know will we?.. oooppss the lefties will know they all have chrystal balls.
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Reply #9 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 8:40am
 
ethelsidebottom wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 8:32pm:
We have a current government that has seen australia through the worst crisis' since the great depression.  mistakes have been made, but by and large, Labor have received good international accolades and PR about the way they have handled and steered australia over the last three years

Why Change?  why risk it all on a faded Opposition that has little scope for improvement?     Why elect a party whose front bench is the epitomy of incompetence?   Kerosene anyone?

Labor may not be perfect, but they sure outway the alternative! Cheesy

Its only the die hard fascists who want to change gov, you've seen them all pop in here already,hi deepy/IQSRLOW,lonersweekend,laborforever.

The punter on the street is pretty happy with this gov, there are no baseball bats waiting for Gillard, there is no mood for change, Gillard will win and if Abbott keeps stuffing up like he does every time he flaps his gums Gillard could well get an increased majority.
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Reply #10 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 8:54am
 

the alp have failed at almost every policy they tried.

the gfc was ok here cause of china and our lack of fed. debt

the alp are borrowing $100 M per day !!!!!!!

that's why I want them out.


they are proven failures.
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Reply #11 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 9:01am
 
I think she might have lost the elderly vote since she didnt want to give them a pension increase because they vote liberal more than labor. and the mothers might ditch her too since she opposed parental leave!
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Reply #12 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 9:03am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 28th, 2010 at 8:54am:
the alp have failed at almost every policy they tried.

the gfc was ok here cause of china and our lack of fed. debt

the alp are borrowing $100 M per day !!!!!!!

that's why I want them out.


they are proven failures.

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Reply #13 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 9:10am
 
The media is doing a great hatchet job on Labor. I hope the ALP ramp up their negative advertising, but it's hard to stoop to the low vitriol that the Libs and their supporters do.

Labor might be "borrowing" $100 million a day - but if they stopped immediately - all services would come to a halt - after all we are a nation of 24 million and we are supposed to be in a recession.

If Abbott gets in he will just finish off the job Howard intended to complete for Australia. The purse strings will be tightened immediately on public services - while private industry and the wealthy get an increase in the handouts they have relied upon for so long.

Labor is trying to wean people off welfare and has introduced wage indexing which is something Howard never did. Welfare which is intended for the needy, has become welfare for the greedy.

If Abbott wins and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition. i

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Reply #14 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 9:15am
 
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If Abbott does get in and this "great depression" that is predicted hits us - who will we blame?

I'm surprised all those who lost so much of their money in early 2008 on their investments haven't blamed the coalition.


The tards will blame Labor, everone else will be waiting with a baseball bat for Abbott.
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