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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #90 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 8:53am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 8:44am:

thy- of course it is relevant and obvious to mention julia gender.

she's a female. she's the 1st female we have ever had to stand for pm.
many woman will vote for her becaiuse she is a woman.

Surely, you are not that naieve that you thynk it is irrelevant ??
did you see the worms for the female being strongly for jooolya

LOL...why do you right whingers assume that I don't think it is relevant!? Where did I say or even suggest that!?

It is precisely because it IS relevant, that Tony Abbott should have had the maturity and political savvy NOT to have such a petty double-edged dig at both her and her supporters!

He has done exactly what he shouldn't have done, if he wanted to win over some of the those people in the electorate (especially women) who were already thinking that he is too juvenile, petty, negative, dogmatic, divisive, erratic and out-of-touch, to be trusted to lead our nation...

His overwhelmingly-negative concluding comments were a great example of how to lose support and alienate people...

Get it!?

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Reply #91 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:00am

get it ??
I thynk I get it.
the deceptive leftys are saying abbott should have lied by ommission and never noticed jooolya is a woman and that that has a HUGE bearing on the outcome.

sorry, us rightys tend to say what is what.

skippy - yes, Margie and abbott have raised a family, yooolya hasn't
it's a fact, get it ??

leftys score - 2/10

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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #92 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:08am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:00am:

get it ??
I thynk I get it.
the deceptive leftys are saying abbott should have lied by ommission and never noticed jooolya is a woman and that that has a HUGE bearing on the outcome.

sorry, us rightys tend to say what is what.

skippy - yes, Margie and abbott have raised a family, yooolya hasn't
it's a fact, get it ??

leftys score - 2/10

LOL...like I said: out-of-touch...

Of course, you probably can't help it...I suspect that it has something to do with the simple black/white and linear thinking of the Conseravtive mind - it fundamentally lacks the capacity for intuition, empathy and lateral thought...

(Athough, you are nowhere near as dogmatic or badly incapacitated, as some of your fellow right whingers - there's hope for you! Wink

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott Reply #93 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:21am didn't bother watching ... yet looks like I should of 17% are saying Bob Brown won the debate ! http://www.smh.com.au/polls/federal-election/leaders-debate/20100726-10quc.html#poll
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott Reply #94 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:24am Quote: Of course, you probably can't help it...I suspect that it has something to do with the simple black/white and linear thinking of the Conseravtive mind - it fundamentally lacks the capacity for intuition, empathy and lateral thought Thy, sprints a Kiwi, nuf said.
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #95 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:32am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:00am:

skippy - yes, Margie and abbott have raised a family, yooolya hasn't
it's a fact, get it ??

leftys score - 2/10

This is being played on by the Libs and it isn't a good argument. What I actually think is disgraceful about the lives of many politicians is that they sacrifice their families for their job. The spouses are left to raise their children singlehandedly.

We know that Julia Gillard is a dedicated person who has put her ambition before the selfish act of having children and then neglecting them.

She deserves an accolade for that.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41468 Gender:	Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott Reply #96 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:35am skippy - I wondered if you had the moral to keep my dirty little secret quiet. Guess not
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott Reply #97 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:40am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:35am: skippy - I wondered if you had the moral to keep my dirty little secret quiet. Guess not LOL I'm just trying to justify your stance for you.
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #98 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:42am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:35am:

skippy - I wondered if you had the moral to keep my dirty little secret quiet.
Guess not

It was a pathetic debate and Gillard is a far worse debater than I expected. Abbott is never good in this format yet he held his own. and I not that newpolls has labor at 52/48. that pretty much confirms that the last polls at 55/45 was wrong. no way the margin changed that fast ina week where no party made any significant policies or performance.

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Reply #99 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:48am

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that pretty much confirms that the last polls at 55/45 was wrong. no way the margin changed that fast ina week

Not really, the Neilson poll had Labor at 55/45 as well, the 52/48 could well be wrong.
But, what we do know is that the worst Labor have done since Gillard became PM is 52/48, in fact its 52.7% .1% more than Labor won the last election with.

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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #100 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:54am

skippy. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:48am:

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that pretty much confirms that the last polls at 55/45 was wrong. no way the margin changed that fast ina week

Not really, the Neilson poll had Labor at 55/45 as well, the 52/48 could well be wrong.
But, what we do know is that the worst Labor have done since Gillard became PM is 52/48, in fact its 52.7% .1% more than Labor won the last election with.

Another way of looking at it is that Labor has dropped 5% from its primary vote at last election and is well behind the Coalition. Only the green preferences are keeping them in the hunt. If we had first past the post voting (which I am not suggesting), labor would be slaughtered. There is little joy to be had for labor other than the probability of a win with little changes in seats. The wildcard however is QLD where labor trails 48/52 and will loose a number of seats. It could still end up an election where labor wins the 2PP and loses the number of seats and therefore govt.

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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #101 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:56am

mantra wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:00am:

skippy - yes, Margie and abbott have raised a family, yooolya hasn't
it's a fact, get it ??

leftys score - 2/10

This is being played on by the Libs and it isn't a good argument. What I actually think is disgraceful about the lives of many politicians is that they sacrifice their families for their job. The spouses are left to raise their children singlehandedly.

We know that Julia Gillard is a dedicated person who has put her ambition before the selfish act of having children and then neglecting them.

She deserves an accolade for that.

an accolade for selfish ambition? Not from me - or from most!

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41468 Gender:	Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott Reply #102 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 9:57am What we do know is, the coalition do better on election day than they do in preceding polls. And tony flogged jooolya easily. She was repeatedly asked to answer the question after her waffling mothercomments.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41468 Gender:	Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott Reply #104 - Jul 26^th, 2010 at 10:16am that "Someone" was prob a greenie is that the greens policy ?
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