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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #120 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 4:01pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 3:31pm:
Ploooooise define 'spin'........




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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #121 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 4:28pm
 
I want to know who this Mervin Ford is who Gillard keeps talking about.  Is he the one driving the campaign?
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And why not, if you will permit me; why shouldn’t I, if you will permit me; spend my first week as prime minister, should that happen, on this, on your, country - Abbott with the Garma People Aug 13
 
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #122 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:03pm
 


longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 2:59pm:
Equitist wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 2:03pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 10:20am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 10:16am:
that "Someone" was prob a greenie

is that the greens policy ?


The Greens can get excited when they get votes based on THEIR policies rather than people who just dislike labor and liberal. If compulsory voting was dumped 3/4 of the green vote woudl instantly disappear.


LOL, Bates...show us your stats!

I agree that lefties would probably be more inclinded to opt out than right whingers, however, I'd like to know how in hell you drew that conclusion about Greens supporters in particular...

I reckon that the voting demographics would suggest otherwise - but I am prepared to both review the data you might present and listen to your POV...




You are an odd one to ask anyone for stats since you refuse to ever give them yourself!



You cheeky lying dogmatic sod - I'm sure that your doG has some kind of command meant for that scornful sin!?

Beware of impending hellfire and damnation, Bates!

Failing that, you'd better watch out for Mozza's Karma...





(PS Most puns mostly intended!)
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #123 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:16pm
 
Oh you provide stats. Just not the ones that prove your outlandish statements.

"Oh they disappeared from the Yahoo board" is probably the most pissweak excuse for failing to provide evidence that I have ever come across.

Even skippy is smart enough to know when to shut up after he has posted some bullshit. He disappears until the thread dies down. You just keep digging.
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #124 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:41pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 25th, 2010 at 7:18pm:
Some interesting reading for those looking for some serious political opinion during this sleep inducing run in to master chef
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/latham-monsters-them-all-for-their-vacuou...



Gillard opposed parental leave: report
MARK METHERELL
July 27, 2010 - 8:51PM

Prime Minister Julia Gillard's election campaign has been hit by yet another apparent leak with the revelation tonight that she resisted proposals for a parental leave scheme and voiced reservations about a big rise in the pension increase.

The report, by veteran journalist Laurie Oakes, comes after his earlier explosive question to her at the National Press Club about suggestions that she had reneged on a pact to support former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd remaining in power.

The latest disclosure has fuelled speculation that somebody in the inner circle of the Labor leadership sympathetic to Rudd is bent on destabilising Ms Gillard's leadership - a lethal move in the middle of an election campaign.

Mr Rudd himself for the first time during the election campaign, has referred to Julia Gillard by name giving his support to the Prime Minister's campaign.

Oakes said on Channel Nine he had leaked information from government sources supporting the suggestion that as Deputy Prime Minister, Ms Gillard, in cabinet had resisted the 18-week paid parental leave scheme set at the minimum wage.

"The idea that paid parental leave would be a political winner was misconstrued," Ms Gillard was quoted as telling cabinet.

"People beyond child-bearing age would resent it as would stay-at-home mothers."

Ms Gillard reportedly questioned the $30 a week increase for single pensioners, billed as the biggest rise in a century since the pension was introduced.

Government sources quoted in the report said that while Ms Gillard was not opposed to the pension increase, she questioned the $14 billion cost on the grounds "elderly voters did not support Labor".

Mr Oakes said the leaks did not come from the Liberal Party and hinted that the source was someone closer to home.

The Labor Party campaign office has issued a response on behalf of Ms Gillard.

"Cabinet discussions are confidential. I have always respected cabinet confidentiality and I will continue to do so," it said in a statement.

"In any case, I would not respond to anonymous allegations.

"If the Liberal Party have allegations to make, they should put their names to them."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/gillard-opposed-parental-leave-report-201...

Quote Latham Sky news
"He's a serial leaker, it's like herion for him"
LOL Hello Kevin Cheesy
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #125 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 11:20pm
 
Equitist wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:03pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 2:59pm:
Equitist wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 2:03pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 10:20am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 10:16am:
that "Someone" was prob a greenie

is that the greens policy ?


The Greens can get excited when they get votes based on THEIR policies rather than people who just dislike labor and liberal. If compulsory voting was dumped 3/4 of the green vote woudl instantly disappear.


LOL, Bates...show us your stats!

I agree that lefties would probably be more inclinded to opt out than right whingers, however, I'd like to know how in hell you drew that conclusion about Greens supporters in particular...

I reckon that the voting demographics would suggest otherwise - but I am prepared to both review the data you might present and listen to your POV...




You are an odd one to ask anyone for stats since you refuse to ever give them yourself!



You cheeky lying dogmatic sod - I'm sure that your doG has some kind of command meant for that scornful sin!?

Beware of impending hellfire and damnation, Bates!

Failing that, you'd better watch out for Mozza's Karma...





(PS Most puns mostly intended!)



we spent 24 hours with you demanding the return of the 60% tax rate and when asked to justify it all you could come up with is a ideological imperative to make the 'bastards pay more'.

you dont deserve a better response than the one I gave.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #126 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 11:22pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:41pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 25th, 2010 at 7:18pm:
Some interesting reading for those looking for some serious political opinion during this sleep inducing run in to master chef
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/latham-monsters-them-all-for-their-vacuou...



Gillard opposed parental leave: report
MARK METHERELL
July 27, 2010 - 8:51PM

Prime Minister Julia Gillard's election campaign has been hit by yet another apparent leak with the revelation tonight that she resisted proposals for a parental leave scheme and voiced reservations about a big rise in the pension increase.

The report, by veteran journalist Laurie Oakes, comes after his earlier explosive question to her at the National Press Club about suggestions that she had reneged on a pact to support former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd remaining in power.

The latest disclosure has fuelled speculation that somebody in the inner circle of the Labor leadership sympathetic to Rudd is bent on destabilising Ms Gillard's leadership - a lethal move in the middle of an election campaign.

Mr Rudd himself for the first time during the election campaign, has referred to Julia Gillard by name giving his support to the Prime Minister's campaign.

Oakes said on Channel Nine he had leaked information from government sources supporting the suggestion that as Deputy Prime Minister, Ms Gillard, in cabinet had resisted the 18-week paid parental leave scheme set at the minimum wage.

"The idea that paid parental leave would be a political winner was misconstrued," Ms Gillard was quoted as telling cabinet.

"People beyond child-bearing age would resent it as would stay-at-home mothers."

Ms Gillard reportedly questioned the $30 a week increase for single pensioners, billed as the biggest rise in a century since the pension was introduced.

Government sources quoted in the report said that while Ms Gillard was not opposed to the pension increase, she questioned the $14 billion cost on the grounds "elderly voters did not support Labor".

Mr Oakes said the leaks did not come from the Liberal Party and hinted that the source was someone closer to home.

The Labor Party campaign office has issued a response on behalf of Ms Gillard.

"Cabinet discussions are confidential. I have always respected cabinet confidentiality and I will continue to do so," it said in a statement.

"In any case, I would not respond to anonymous allegations.

"If the Liberal Party have allegations to make, they should put their names to them."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/gillard-opposed-parental-leave-report-201...

Quote Latham Sky news
"He's a serial leaker, it's like herion for him"
LOL Hello Kevin Cheesy


I smelt Kev all over that one too. I wonder if he is going to do this all thru the campaign. i hope he gets some good stuff out tho. this tiddly news is damaging but not enough. unless of course he is clever enough to try and weaken her credibility but not lose the election. that would presume his ego is subservient to his intelligence.  not convinced of that tho!
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #127 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 8:34am
 
Cyberman wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:16pm:
Oh you provide stats. Just not the ones that prove your outlandish statements.

"Oh they disappeared from the Yahoo board" is probably the most pissweak excuse for failing to provide evidence that I have ever come across.

Even skippy is smart enough to know when to shut up after he has posted some bullshit. He disappears until the thread dies down. You just keep digging.


LOL, who can hide from you troll,IQSRLOW? you follow me around to every forum I sign up at.
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #128 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 3:02pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 4:01pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 3:31pm:
Ploooooise define 'spin'........





So does the media impart 'spin'?!!?

Come on..... answer the question!  Shocked Shocked Roll Eyes Huh Tongue Wink  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #129 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 3:07pm
 
Gillard as the Grinch who stole Labor

Wink

I'm trying to find the comical image that I'm told used to be up on google images, but for some reason, I cant seem to be able to find it.

Anyone know where it's gone?

Apparently it's hilarious.

Cool

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Re: Election Debate: Gillard v's Abbott
Reply #130 - Jul 28th, 2010 at 3:12pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 28th, 2010 at 8:34am:
Cyberman wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:16pm:
Oh you provide stats. Just not the ones that prove your outlandish statements.

"Oh they disappeared from the Yahoo board" is probably the most pissweak excuse for failing to provide evidence that I have ever come across.

Even skippy is smart enough to know when to shut up after he has posted some bullshit. He disappears until the thread dies down. You just keep digging.


LOL, who can hide from you troll,IQSRLOW? you follow me around to every forum I sign up at.



Skippy, what's going on?

Every time I read one of your posts, you appear to be being rather unfriendly to someone or other,  is it our deodorant?

Does this forums colour scheme excite rage or something?

Try the cool blue colour scheme,(go into your profile options)  it works for me.

.....You're like a bull with a red flag....a hate-machine on crack!@

Undecided
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