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We''ll buy our solar cells overseas.
Jul 17^th, 2010 at 1:55am

We don't have solar cells worthy of buying that
are available in Australia or any kind of reputation
that would make a large Australian solar farm viable.
We are behind when we should be the world leaders.
What is wrong with this country?
We could make $ billions if we could manufacture
the world's best solar panels.
I blame Howard & Rudd for this.
Vote green in the next election.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/business/items/2010 07/s2952765.htm

Lateline Business 13th July 2010.
QUOTE:ANDREW ROBERTSON
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" The other major point of contention with the Government's solar flagships program is that Australia's only manufacturer of solar panels, Silex Solar, has been excluded, failing to make the final eight. Whilst Australian technology is prominent in the shortlisted consortiums, their solar panels will be made overseas.

Silex is naturally disappointed, but is wary of antagonising the Government, so management refused to be interviewed on camera."

QUOTE: MURIEL WATT, UNSW:

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"You had to prove that you had built and operated a 30 megawatt power plant previously, and given that we haven't had any 30 megawatt solar power plants in Australia in the past, that would be very difficult for Australian companies to prove."

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: We''ll buy our solar cells overseas. Reply #1 - Jul 17^th, 2010 at 8:46am We do, and they export to overseas: http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au/ They are pretty good SVP's too - triple junction with concentrators. I'll still be voting Green, although I think Bob Brown is a miscreant who panders to pot smoking hippies and deep greens too much.
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Reply #2 - Jul 17^th, 2010 at 12:22pm

muso wrote on Jul 17^th, 2010 at 8:46am:

We do, and they export to overseas:

http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au/

They are pretty good SVP's too - triple junction with concentrators. I'll still be voting Green, although I think Bob Brown is a miscreant who panders to pot smoking hippies and deep greens too much.

Well they didn't win the contract!

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Reply #3 - Jul 17^th, 2010 at 2:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17^th, 2010 at 12:22pm:

muso wrote on Jul 17^th, 2010 at 8:46am:

We do, and they export to overseas:

http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au/

They are pretty good SVP's too - triple junction with concentrators. I'll still be voting Green, although I think Bob Brown is a miscreant who panders to pot smoking hippies and deep greens too much.

Well they didn't win the contract!

Probably because they were looking at more conventional SVP's. These are more expensive, but also much more efficient. They are a similar grade to the ones used on Space Probes, and they have an additional concentrator which focusses the sun's rays a bit like a magnifier.

The CEO is Greg Watson, and I've had discussions with him on other forums. They're based in Adelaide and have won a number of major contracts overseas.

With the contract, the specs might have been too inflexible for this type of SVP.

Of course the future is in Solar thermal and large scale installations. Everybody knows that.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120705 Melbourne Gender:	Re: We''ll buy our solar cells overseas. Reply #4 - Jul 17^th, 2010 at 3:12pm Muso - if we were as good at funding science as we are at sports we would be world beaters.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: We''ll buy our solar cells overseas. Reply #5 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 11:47am Bobby. wrote on Jul 17^th, 2010 at 3:12pm: Muso - if we were as good at funding science as we are at sports we would be world beaters. I might not agree with you on other things, but on that we agree.
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adrock New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5	Re: We''ll buy our solar cells overseas. Reply #6 - Oct 8^th, 2010 at 5:27pm Similarly with wind power. We have no IP or manufacturers here. If a $100 million wind farm is built 95% goes straight to Europe/China. The industry is absolutely smashing it worldwide of which we get nothing. We do have good dirt though! Mmm dirt.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30923 Gender:	Re: We''ll buy our solar cells overseas. Reply #7 - Oct 16^th, 2010 at 4:56pm I heard that some AFL players and representatives have gone to Shanghai to try and impress them with their leather kicking skills LOL They must think the Chinese are as stupid as the Aussies
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Reply #8 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 1:50am

Just a 'prediction' ...reckon Africa and to a lesser extent, India - will become the world leaders in Solar Power after watching a program on SBS today. I guess anything can be successful if you take it seriously.

Although it is a minor power source, it is a consistent, very available and cheap as chips system. Put into effect upon a large scale, it is very effective indeed.

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Reply #9 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 7:41am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Oct 20^th, 2010 at 1:50am:

Just a 'prediction' ...reckon Africa and to a lesser extent, India - will become the world leaders in Solar Power after watching a program on SBS today. I guess anything can be successful if you take it seriously.

Although it is a minor power source, it is a consistent, very available and cheap as chips system. Put into effect upon a large scale, it is very effective indeed.

Pity - we should be the world leaders.

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: We''ll buy our solar cells overseas. Reply #10 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 8:25am We should be, but I think 'Water' is our H20 to go, rather than Solar. Prediction: The so-called 'Outback' to be terra-formed into an Oasis and the once fabled "Inland Sea" will become a reality.
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Reply #11 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 9:43am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Oct 20^th, 2010 at 8:25am:

We should be, but I think 'Water' is our H20 to go, rather than Solar.

Prediction: The so-called 'Outback' to be terra-formed into an Oasis and the once fabled "Inland Sea" will become a reality.

If energy was cheap, we could have quite a few Ord River type irrigation schemes.

If you had enough of them, it would make the climate in inland Australia altogether different.

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Reply #12 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 9:53am

Like TOTALLY AGREE with ya there Muso.

...I think Solar Power and even Wind and Tidal power will always be there for Australia although I think such things still get oppressed by powerful 'Fuel/Oil' businesses, to some degree here. Ironically, some of these Fuel/Oil businesses also sponsor research in regards to 'better' alternatives.
Whoever figures out how to harness an electrical strike and storage of such an immense capacity is a sure-fire winner. One strike could power a Space Shuttle take-off, trip and return easy as.

Hope we still continue with Solar Power as a positive source towards higher living and production quality - its a 'win' for all situation, even if ALP/Libs muck it around sometimes.

Someone I know, high up in Sydney's Integral Electricity tell me that the Sydney Electrical system is outdated and can't cope with demand. The fact that the 'turbines' are overheating to such a extent that they have to 'hose em down with water' to cool em. Roll Eyes

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: We''ll buy our solar cells overseas. Reply #13 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 2:25pm It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Oct 20^th, 2010 at 9:53am: The fact that the 'turbines' are overheating to such a extent that they have to 'hose em down with water' to cool em. What a load of speculative, unverified URBAN MYTH Who ARE you ? MELLIE ?
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: We''ll buy our solar cells overseas. Reply #14 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 4:32pm buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 20^th, 2010 at 2:25pm: What a load of speculative, unverified URBAN MYTH Who ARE you ? MELLIE ? snigger
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