athos wrote on Aug 8^th, 2010 at 1:48pm:



NO athos, Zionism is much much newer than Judaism....
Judaism is 3500+years old and Zionism dates from 1897.....

so gizmo,

you liken this arguement to islam and extremist islam?

to taliban which was invented by the US?

also alqaeda which was invented by the US and MOSSAD?

as mossad has invented the current palestinian authority

to overthrow the PLO?

oh yes dear ones we see the same ole same ole

divide bind and rule,the satanic principle..further

problem reaction soloution.

9/11 was an inside job.


namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 8^th, 2010 at 1:59pm:


No wharfy, Islam is a religion, Zionism is NOT....

it seems you would wish to dissect the arguement secularly

islam - taliban and alquaeda

judaism - zionism

religion and fundamentalism

i know the difference

yet you apply smoke on the field of debate.

your tricks are transperent and flacid

you are forgiven for your disinformationalistical red herrings

i have seen you on yahoo do the same to nil effect

these people here will soon wise up to you

with grace

namaste

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

again just for you gizmo

Hamas is a Creation of Mossad

by Hassane Zerouky

Global Outlook, No 2, Summer 2002
www.globalresearch.ca   23 March 2004
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

Thanks to the Mossad, Israel's "Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks", the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation

Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)".



Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Islamist movement in Palestine, returning from Cairo in the seventies, established an Islamic charity association. Prime Minister Golda Meir, saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s Fatah movement. .According to the Israeli weekly Koteret Rashit (October 1987), "The Islamic associations as well as the university had been supported and encouraged by the Israeli military authority" in charge of the (civilian) administration of the West Bank and Gaza. "They [the Islamic associations and the university] were authorized to receive money payments from abroad."

The Islamists set up orphanages and health clinics, as well as a network of schools, workshops which created employment for women as well as system of financial aid to the poor. And in 1978, they created an "Islamic University" in Gaza. "The military authority was convinced that these activities would weaken both the PLO and the leftist organizations in Gaza." At the end of 1992, there were six hundred mosques in Gaza. Thanks to Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad (Israel’s Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks) , the Islamists were allowed to reinforce their presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, the members of Fatah (Movement for the National Liberation of Palestine) and the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression.

In 1984, Ahmed Yassin was arrested and condemned to twelve years in prison, after the discovery of a hidden arms cache. But one year later, he was set free and resumed his activities. And when the Intifada (‘uprising’) began, in October 1987, which took the Islamists by surprise, Sheik Yassin responded by creating the Hamas (The Islamic Resistance Movement): "God is our beginning, the prophet our model, the Koran our constitution", proclaims article 7 of the charter of the organization.

Ahmed Yassin was in prison when, the Oslo accords (Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government) were signed in September 1993. The Hamas had rejected Oslo outright. But at that time, 70% of Palestinians had condemned the attacks on Israeli civilians. Yassin did everything in his power to undermine the Oslo accords. Even prior to Prime Minister Rabin’s death, he had the support of the Israeli government. The latter was very reluctant to implement the peace agreement.

The Hamas then launched a carefully timed campaign of attacks against civilians, one day before the meeting between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators, regarding the formal recognition of Israel by the National Palestinian Council. These events were largely instrumental in the formation of a Right wing Israeli government following the May 1996 elections.

read on........

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

at this point you would be well advised to stand down

lest ye be made a goose here as well as yahoo...

you may create your reality at will,

check*

haha;)

i think we both know the truth...

namaste:D

what have you 'won' gizmo?

if you derive winning from a constant lack of arguement winning

then you win,

enjoy

namaste