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Reply #45 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:31pm
 
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"Zionism as 'racism' - how do you feel about calling on Aborigines to abandon their corrosive, divive, racist insistence on being 'Aboriginal'? At least you can convert to Judaism. You can't convert to Aboriginality. Boooo."

I can convert to Judaism but I can never become a Jew because I am White and a Jew can never become White because he is a Jew.  He is not White, he did not spring from us but from the Arab and Africa.  please stop trying to deny the White race.
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Re: Israel is against traditional Jewish law
Reply #46 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:36pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:31pm:
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"Zionism as 'racism' - how do you feel about calling on Aborigines to abandon their corrosive, divive, racist insistence on being 'Aboriginal'? At least you can convert to Judaism. You can't convert to Aboriginality. Boooo."

I can convert to Judaism but I can never become a Jew because I am White and a Jew can never become White because he is a Jew.  He is not White, he did not spring from us but from the Arab and Africa.  please stop trying to deny the White race.



I think you need to get some serious help old chap
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Reply #47 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:41pm
 
White Dove wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 7:30pm:
[quote author=shirlou link=1279271670/30#40 date=1280826703]Prevailing we do not tolerate antisemitism and racism on these boards.

 I tolerate ALL people as being able to state what they think in a democratic society without others condemning them for being "racist" or the other thing "anti-jewish".


White Dove..I am presuming you are an Australian

If you are, then you should know what the Constitution of your country is and the laws we have here in regards to Cyber Racism.

We do not have freedom of speech, only freedom of expression. You can't say what you want and to whom you want, there are laws in place that govern that.

I would suggest that you take  a look at the web site of The Australian Human Rights Commission, in regards to not only Cyber Racism,  but racism in general, antisemitism comes under the banner of racism. 

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Reply #48 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:48pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:31pm:
a Jew can never become White because he is a Jew.  He is not White, he did not spring from us but from the Arab and Africa.  please stop trying to deny the White race.



Yeah, I know, isn't it dreadful. Look at this one. She may have a Danish father and pretend to be white but, hey, you can see through that, she is clearly a non-white person.  Her mother is Jewish. She is Jewish.

But you are whiter than her, I bet....  They have to get up earlier to fool you, eh?


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Reply #49 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:49pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:48pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 11:31pm:
a Jew can never become White because he is a Jew.  He is not White, he did not spring from us but from the Arab and Africa.  please stop trying to deny the White race.



Yeah, I know, isn't it dreadful. Look at this one. She may have a Danish father and pretend to be white but, hey, you can see through that, she is clearly a non-white person.  Her mother is Jewish. She is Jewish.

But you are whiter than her, I bet....  They have to get up earlier to fool you, eh, those cunning joooos?


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Reply #50 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 7:16am
 

The problem is Israel and the Jews could not make a go of it and they are attempting to impose their Communist vision upon the whole workld, to destroy other peoples and cultures that their own might prevail and rule.

Many Jews are awakening to this and are joining the mass movement away from Judaism and Zionism.  I don't blame them, but the West can no longer support financially or militarily this state nor allow its Bankers to do business in our country.

I agree with their reasons for abandoning Zionism as racist. Smiley [/quote]

As I stated, the genie is out of the bottle, and it's not going back in.
Israel has packed more history in it's short 62 years than most nations have done in 600 years.
Israel was attacked the day after it was formed by Muslim armies bent on it's destruction and they have tried many times since, yet Israel remains and the enemy armies still lay under the sand dunes.
Israel has done much more than 'making a go of it'.
That countries economy remains the envy and is the best of all Middle Eastern nations, so well in fact that many of her former enemies trade with Israel.
Israel's GDP is around $300 billion with US aid to Israel at under $3 billion.
Israel does not need the west's aid to survive, and the US and Europe has a vested interest in assisting the sole Middle Eastern democracy.
Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, and you stating they are communist has no basis of fact whatsoever.
Israel's government has held regular elections for six decades, and has had a peaceful transition of power each and every time.
Israel remains on the frontline of the war against terror as it has done so for so long, and if Israel wasn't there to take the missile strikes, many European leaders would not sleep so well at night.
And if terrorism is a culture, then Israel has every right to destroy it where they find it.
More missiles landed in Sderot the other day, and the Israel's have a right to self defence.
Because if they don't, it may fall to our children to do so one day.
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Reply #51 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 11:13am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 7:16am:
The problem is Israel and the Jews could not make a go of it and they are attempting to impose their Communist vision upon the whole workld, to destroy other peoples and cultures that their own might prevail and rule.

Many Jews are awakening to this and are joining the mass movement away from Judaism and Zionism.  I don't blame them, but the West can no longer support financially or militarily this state nor allow its Bankers to do business in our country.

I agree with their reasons for abandoning Zionism as racist. Smiley


So  true and well said
It's so refreshing that finally wise people with intellectual pedigree are coming and speaking on this forum.

May be Moron Soren should learn something from them instead to constantly ramble his racist Zionist slogans around, like this one:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1280840584
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Reply #52 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 11:28am
 
athos wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 11:13am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 7:16am:
The problem is Israel and the Jews could not make a go of it and they are attempting to impose their Communist vision upon the whole workld, to destroy other peoples and cultures that their own might prevail and rule.

Many Jews are awakening to this and are joining the mass movement away from Judaism and Zionism.  I don't blame them, but the West can no longer support financially or militarily this state nor allow its Bankers to do business in our country.

I agree with their reasons for abandoning Zionism as racist. Smiley


As I stated, the genie is out of the bottle, and it's not going back in.
Israel has packed more history in it's short 62 years than most nations have done in 600 years.
Israel was attacked the day after it was formed by Muslim armies bent on it's destruction and they have tried many times since, yet Israel remains and the enemy armies still lay under the sand dunes.
Israel has done much more than 'making a go of it'.
That countries economy remains the envy and is the best of all Middle Eastern nations, so well in fact that many of her former enemies trade with Israel.
Israel's GDP is around $300 billion with US aid to Israel at under $3 billion.
Israel does not need the west's aid to survive, and the US and Europe has a vested interest in assisting the sole Middle Eastern democracy.
Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, and you stating they are communist has no basis of fact whatsoever.
Israel's government has held regular elections for six decades, and has had a peaceful transition of power each and every time.
Israel remains on the frontline of the war against terror as it has done so for so long, and if Israel wasn't there to take the missile strikes, many European leaders would not sleep so well at night.
And if terrorism is a culture, then Israel has every right to destroy it where they find it.
More missiles landed in Sderot the other day, and the Israel's have a right to self defence.
Because if they don't, it may fall to our children to do so one day.


So  true and well said
It's so refreshing that finally wise people with intellectual pedigree are coming and speaking on this forum.

May be Moron Soren should learn something from them instead to constantly ramble his racist Zionist slogans around, like this one:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1280840584 [/quote]


Chicken said exactly what I would have said. What do you think he said, Athos?

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Reply #53 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 12:09pm
 
Sappho wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 12:47pm:
cockneydoll wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 10:40am:
Zionism is the Jewish national movement of rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel - the historical birthplace of the Jewish people.


It is not the birthplace of the Jewish people, rather, Abraham and his history represent the birthplace of the Jewish people and that birthplace could quite possibly be Ur, given that God spoke about bringing Abraham out of Ur.

Israel is the promised land.

There is a big difference between a birthplace and a land promised by God.

I won't dispute anything else, because it does not serve my purpose which is to seek your opinion of what is happening to Israel now in terms of the increasing numbers and so influence of the ultra and ultra-ultra Jews... including their representations in the Knesset, virtual gated communities, influence on secular and less extreme Jews in Israel and how you see the future of Israel with these considerations in mind.

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You speak of history and I ask about the here and now. Do you have any opinions on the increasing influence in Israel of the ultra jews?
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Reply #54 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 12:21pm
 
Sappho wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 12:09pm:
Sappho wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 12:47pm:
cockneydoll wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 10:40am:
Zionism is the Jewish national movement of rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel - the historical birthplace of the Jewish people.


It is not the birthplace of the Jewish people, rather, Abraham and his history represent the birthplace of the Jewish people and that birthplace could quite possibly be Ur, given that God spoke about bringing Abraham out of Ur.

Israel is the promised land.

There is a big difference between a birthplace and a land promised by God.

I won't dispute anything else, because it does not serve my purpose which is to seek your opinion of what is happening to Israel now in terms of the increasing numbers and so influence of the ultra and ultra-ultra Jews... including their representations in the Knesset, virtual gated communities, influence on secular and less extreme Jews in Israel and how you see the future of Israel with these considerations in mind.

Cheers.


Bump for the doll.

You speak of history and I ask about the here and now. Do you have any opinions on the increasing influence in Israel of the ultra jews?



Influence?
You could fill a bingo hall with the nutters.
There is only a reported 500 of them in Israel out of a total population of 7.5 million people.
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Reply #55 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 12:46pm
 
The problem is Israel and the Jews could not make a go of it and they are attempting to impose their Communist vision upon the whole workld, to destroy other peoples and cultures that their own might prevail and rule.

Many Jews are awakening to this and are joining the mass movement away from Judaism and Zionism.  I don't blame them, but the West can no longer support financially or militarily this state nor allow its Bankers to do business in our country. [quote]

Soren I was referring to this, As far as you are concerned, as usually, you talk much and say nothing and don't try try to deceitfully manipulate my comments but quote them as they are, shame on you.


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Reply #56 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 1:59pm
 
athos wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 12:46pm:
The problem is Israel and the Jews could not make a go of it and they are attempting to impose their Communist vision upon the whole workld, to destroy other peoples and cultures that their own might prevail and rule.

Many Jews are awakening to this and are joining the mass movement away from Judaism and Zionism.  I don't blame them, but the West can no longer support financially or militarily this state nor allow its Bankers to do business in our country. [quote]

Soren I was referring to this, As far as you are concerned, as usually, you talk much and say nothing and don't try try to deceitfully manipulate my comments but quote them as they are, shame on you.





Thank you for fixing up your post, Porthos. For a moment I thought you'd grown a mind, as you appeared to endorse chicken's excellent summary.


I quoted your post as it appeared, you sneaky Russian bugger. You just went and changed it.
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Reply #57 - Aug 5th, 2010 at 11:32am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 12:21pm:
Sappho wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 12:09pm:
Sappho wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 12:47pm:
cockneydoll wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 10:40am:
Zionism is the Jewish national movement of rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel - the historical birthplace of the Jewish people.


It is not the birthplace of the Jewish people, rather, Abraham and his history represent the birthplace of the Jewish people and that birthplace could quite possibly be Ur, given that God spoke about bringing Abraham out of Ur.

Israel is the promised land.

There is a big difference between a birthplace and a land promised by God.

I won't dispute anything else, because it does not serve my purpose which is to seek your opinion of what is happening to Israel now in terms of the increasing numbers and so influence of the ultra and ultra-ultra Jews... including their representations in the Knesset, virtual gated communities, influence on secular and less extreme Jews in Israel and how you see the future of Israel with these considerations in mind.

Cheers.


Bump for the doll.

You speak of history and I ask about the here and now. Do you have any opinions on the increasing influence in Israel of the ultra jews?



Influence?
You could fill a bingo hall with the nutters.
There is only a reported 500 of them in Israel out of a total population of 7.5 million people.


If it has been reported that there are only 500 ultra and ultra-ultra jews, then you won't mind linking that report.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #58 - Aug 5th, 2010 at 6:16pm
 
Athos you are just one stirrer..mate

The people to which chicken is referring are the Neturei Karta, who are complete nut cases and have developed there own "brand" of Judaism.

There are thousands that are ultra orthodox, but none hold radical ideas like the Neturei Karta, who in many ways don't even resemble Judaism
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Reply #59 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 3:14pm
 
cockneydoll wrote on Aug 5th, 2010 at 6:16pm:
Athos you are just one stirrer..mate

The people to which chicken is referring are the Neturei Karta, who are complete nut cases and have developed there own "brand" of Judaism.

There are thousands that are ultra orthodox, but none hold radical ideas like the Neturei Karta, who in many ways don't even resemble Judaism


Does it mean that Zionism is only right Judaism?
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