Now where do you get that pearl of wisdom from?

You couldn't be furhter for the truth if you tried

Jewish people are rejecting racism and embracing the pluralistic values of the modern world - diversity and multiculturalism, thats why they are walking away from Zionism which affords them no security or peace.

What rubbish you two speak.

Do you even know what Zionism is ?



Zionism is the Jewish national movement of rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel - the historical birthplace of the Jewish people. The yearning to return to Zion, the biblical term for both the Land of Israel and Jerusalem, has been the cornerstone of Jewish religious life since the Jewish exile from the land two thousand years ago, and is embedded in Jewish prayer, ritual, literature and culture.

Modern Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in response to the violent persecution of Jews in Eastern Europe, anti-Semitism in Western Europe. Modern Zionism fused the ancient Jewish biblical and historical ties to the ancestral homeland with the modern concept of nationalism into a vision of establishing a modern Jewish state in the land of Israel.

The "father" of modern Zionism, Austrian journalist Theodor Herzl, consolidated various strands of Zionist thought into an organized political movement, advocating for international recognition of a "Jewish state" and encouraging Jewish immigration to build the land.

Today, decades after the actual founding of a Jewish state, Zionism continues to be the guiding nationalist movement of the majority of Jews around the world who believe in, support and identify with the State of Israel. Zionism, the national aspiration of the Jewish people to a homeland, is to the Jewish people what the liberation movements of Africa and Asia have been to their peoples.

History has demonstrated the need to ensure Jewish security through such a homeland. The re-establishment of Jewish independence in Israel, after centuries of struggle to overcome foreign conquest and exile, is a vindication of the fundamental concepts of the equality of nations and of self-determination. To question the Jewish people's right to national existence and freedom is not only to deny to the Jewish people the right accorded to every other people on this globe, but it is also to deny the central precepts of the United Nations.

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2010 at 3:18pm:



The State of Israel has provided far more security than the rest of the world ever did for Jewish people before 1948.
The genie is out of the bottle, and it's not going back in.
And as far as multiculturalism and diverisity is concerned, look at the hopeless security situation in European countries today that never existed before.
If mulitculturalism and diversity are values, they are certainly poor ones.

athos wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2010 at 2:25pm:



chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2010 at 7:14am:


The problem is Israel and the Jews could not make a go of it and they are attempting to impose their Communist vision upon the whole workld, to destroy other peoples and cultures that their own might prevail and rule.

Many Jews are awakening to this and are joining the mass movement away from Judaism and Zionism.  I don't blame them, but the West can no longer support financially or militarily this state nor allow its Bankers to do business in our country.

I agree with their reasons for abandoning Zionism as racist.

Cockneydoll your comments on my legitimate opinion and freedom to criticize Israel in Australia amount to communist psychological violence and racism against me as an Australian which I will not tolerate.  Please stop trolling my comments and stalking me with these offensive remarks.  You are clearly an activist with an agenda to gag criticism of your group.

Prevailing wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2010 at 6:58pm:



This is stupid puffery. My view is, let the stupidity come out in the open, there's no point of ruling it out of court. If you have a bee in your bonnet about the ebil jooo, let's hear it.

The jews are not trying to impose communism on anyone. The last communist countries are North Korea, Cuba and China. Not exactly Zionist hotbeds. The Australian party closest to communist social policy ideas is the Greens. Is Bob Brown a Mossad agent? Is the green movement a jewish invention, cleverly deployed when they saw communism going down the gurgler?

I didn't know there were Isaeli banks and bankers in Oz. Let me know which ones you have in mind and want to get rid of.

As for military and financial support for Israel - the US aid to Israel ($2.4 Billion) amounts to just a bit over 1% of Israel's GDP ($2.2 Billion in 2008). That's not what I call being propped up by West financially or militarily. Israel is among the top 10 defence exporter. Its top customets? The US, India, Britain and er... Turkey. Russia is also significant.

Zionism as 'racism' - how do you feel about calling on Aborigines to abandon their corrosive, divive, racist insistence on being 'Aboriginal'? At least you can convert to Judaism. You can't convert to Aboriginality. Boooo.