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Israel is against traditional Jewish law (Read 11079 times)
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Reply #120 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 12:19pm
 
aikmann4 wrote on Aug 18th, 2010 at 9:35pm:
The Moslem world is able to inflict embarrassing defeats and wear down the forces of Occidental man so well because Occidental man is blinded by his own moral universalism. It is our own dedication to fairness, and the principle of "doing so would make us no better than you" that allows our Moslem foes, in the face of their obvious technological and numerical disadvantage, to persist with such resolution. This is not to say that you are not wrong to exploit our effeminate folly. However, the Jews are a different kettle of fish from us, whether you like it or not. And they are more than willing, using their intellectual, political and financial clout, to manipulate and draw other the leaders of other, powerful states, into this conflict.



In my view, the reason for the "embarrassing defeats and wear down the forces of Occidental man so well"....especially in Iraq and Afghanistan is the same reason for the problems they had in Vietnam...

It is almost impossible to fight against a small group of 'insurgents' (or terrorists) that exist WITHIN a national population.

A combatant in civilian clothes cease to be recognisable as a combatant when they've throw the weapon away..

An insurgent can shoot and kill civilians or military personnel, then duck around a corner, throw the weapon over a wall...and BINGO instant 'innocent bystander'....

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Reply #121 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 1:26pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 18th, 2010 at 9:03pm:
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The only way the Muslim world can legitimize their claim to Palestinian soil is to prove that they have a right to it through power.


This is correct.

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If the Jews keep beating the sh*t out of you guys you are weaker and do not deserve to have your claims recognized.


This is not.

The Muslims and Jews have never really faced one another. The mock wars of the 20th. century were all a facade, and Britain choreographed it all, leading the Arab armies herself.

As we can see now in Afghanistan, when actual Muslim forces fight, they can bring superpowers to their knees. In fact the only serious fighters in Palestine, like Abdullah Azzam, left Palestine and went to Afghanistan, realising it was futile being a pawn in the West's little facade-wars with the Jews and the puppet Arab leaders.

The Muslims are biding their time in Palestine, and will probably not re-take it until after the Caliphate is re-established.


Well then the last mock war in 1973 went the way of the previous three mock wars of 1967, 1956 & 1948.
It resulted in a comprehensive drubbing of the multi national Muslim armies by the Jews leaving 18,000 buried under the sand dunes, 35,000 wounded, 500 planes destroyed and over 2300 tanks crispy fried.
Not quite a mock war eh.
And not a pom in sight to choreograph the perfidious surprise attack on Yom Kipper either, or the Israeli response.
The Jewish armies may have had a poor record against the Roman army  in those three wars of the 1st & 2nd century, but against the Muslim armies of the 20th century we all know who came out on top there.
If there is ever going to be another Caliphate, it won't be the new age Palestinian lepers celebrating I'm afraid.
They will only be around to clean the toilets and wash the dishes only which is pretty much as they are being treated now by their foreign Muslim brothers.
And if you are comparing the rubble of Afghanistan to the supercities of the US, I think it stands for all to see who is on their knees.
The poor Afghani's don't have two sticks to rub together.
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