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Re: Does celibacy contribute to child abuse?
Reply #15 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 9:47pm
 
What's your problem Soren?
Could you please keep your Zionist's racist slogans for yourself.
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Reply #16 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 1:11pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 12:43am:
(and that includes self-sex)


By self-sex, do you mean..... masturbation? Shocked

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 12:43am:
Its amazing how women and people in general automatically think you are Gay, because you are not interested in having sex with a woman, any woman. I tend to think its the Gold-Digging skanks who yell "Gay" the loudest if they are rejected.


I know! It's complete rubbish. A homosexual is a person who is actually attracted or interested in the same sex as themselves -- in a sexual way. Lack of interest in a particular sex just makes you "unsexual" to that sex. It doesn't mean you're attracted to the alternative sex. Lack of interest in women does not make you homosexual. I don't know where people get this idea. It's an old wives' (or husbands') tale.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 12:43am:
In the end, you are indeed alone. Unlike the 'Breeders' way down there at the base of the Pyramid that are as numerous as the stones that make up the foundation.


Down with the teenage fathers!

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 12:43am:
Celibacy is the last refuge of the Man who seeks his 'immortality' through 'his' creation (think of DaVinci's works) via the mind, rather than that of Pro-Creation via that of a Woman's womb. To me, Da Vinci is way more of a real man than a man who has fathered 100 children.


Amen to that! We must rebel against the social pressure to make babies!

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 12:43am:
It also 'buggers' a lot of women up in the workplace, when they can't pin you for being gay either. You are like a Fish that can't be hooked by any bait and free to rock their boat instead.


The women there should be interested in you even if you are gay. If they really care that you're gay, it's because they don't really care about you. They just want kisses and sex! They're just a bunch of users.
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Re: Does celibacy contribute to child abuse?
Reply #17 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 6:55pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 9:34pm:
athos wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 9:30pm:
Hlysnan wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 9:58am:
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According to a survey by the Washington Post, over the last four decades, less than 1.5 percent of the estimated 60,000 or more men who have served in the Catholic clergy have been accused of child sexual abuse.[iv]  According to a survey by the New York Times, 1.8 percent of all priests ordained from 1950 to 2001 have been accused of child sexual abuse.[v]  Thomas Kane, author of Priests are People Too, estimates that between 1 and 1.5 percent of priests have had charges made against them.[vi]  Of contemporary priests, the Associated Press found that approximately two-thirds of 1 percent of priests have charges pending against them.[vii]

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Finally, in the authoritative work by Penn State professor Philip Jenkins, Pedophiles and Priests, it was determined that between .2 and 1.7 percent of priests are pedophiles.  The figure among the Protestant clergy ranges between 2 and 3 percent.[xxii]

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According to one study, .2 percent of athletic coaches nationwide have a criminal record of some sort of sexual offense.  This translates to about 6,000 coaches in the U.S. who have been tried and found guilty of sexual offense against children.[xxvii]  It is not known how many more offenders have escaped the reach of law enforcement.

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It was reported in 1991 that 17.7 percent of males who graduated from high school, and 82.2 percent of females, reported sexual harassment by faculty or staff during their years in school.  Fully 13.5 percent said they had sexual intercourse with their teacher.[xxx]

In New York City alone, at least one child is sexually abused by a school employee every day.  One study concluded that more than 60 percent of employees accused of sexual abuse in the New York City schools were transferred to desk jobs at district offices located inside the schools.  Most of these teachers are tenured and 40 percent of those transferred are repeat offenders.  They call it “passing the garbage” in the schools.  One reason why this exists is due to efforts by the United Federation of Teachers to protect teachers at the expense of children.[xxxi]  Another is the fact that teachers accused of sexual misconduct cannot be fired under New York State law.[xxxii]

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All of the accused admitted sexual abuse of a student, but none of the abusers was reported to the authorities, and only 1 percent lost their license to teach.  Only 35 percent suffered negative consequences of any kind, and 39 percent chose to leave their school district, most with positive recommendations.  Some were even given an early retirement package.[xxxiii]



There are more interesting points and stats, but weren't very relevant to this discussion, so I'll leave the link here for the full article.

http://www.catholicleague.org/research/abuse_in_social_context.htm


http://fromtheleft.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/3641_1821_dirty-priest-costume1.j...



Both hand on the keyboard now, Athos, you sick Russian b@stard.



Shut up you Zionist pedophile pig.
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Reply #18 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 7:03pm
 
I don't know if your Italian is any better than your English but here is Oriana Fallaci, in Italian, with English subtitles. Listen and learn, you ignorant peasant.




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Reply #19 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 8:11pm
 
[quote author=soren2 I don't know if your Italian is any better than your English but here is Oriana Fallaci, in Italian, with English subtitles. Listen and learn, you ignorant peasant. [/quote]


Soren as a catholic kid before he converted to Judaism.

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Reply #20 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 8:47pm
 
I've heard the saying a couple of times:
Q: What were Jesus's last words to his Jewish people as he slowly died upon the Cross.
A: "Wait until me little brother Hitler gets his hands on yas ya bastards!"
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...kinda puts the whole 'guilt trip' into perspective.
With this though, as for a job I have to bin thousands of unwanted little baby chickens after they have been gased to death. I can only imagine how horrible it must have been 'for any people' to suffer like so.
Shocked Shocked Cry
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Reply #21 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 8:55pm
 
athos wrote on Jul 16th, 2010 at 8:11pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 16th, 2010 at 7:03pm:
I don't know if your Italian is any better than your English but here is Oriana Fallaci, in Italian, with English subtitles. Listen and learn, you ignorant peasant.








You should learn how to suck ASAP.



What? Now you don't understand Italian?? You live there but don't understand the lingo? 
What exactly do you find objectionable in what Fallaci says?
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Reply #22 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 8:59pm
 
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Reply #23 - Jul 17th, 2010 at 4:30am
 
Grin Grin @ imperium


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Reply #24 - Jul 18th, 2010 at 3:07pm
 
muso wrote on Jul 13th, 2010 at 10:57am:
No. It's breaking celibacy that can lead to child abuse.

Seriously though, the priesthood is a convenient place for pedophiles to lurk. People who are sexually frustrated are more likely to go in search of their fantasies (mostly adult women or men)  rather than take it out on kids.

As Bob Dyland said:

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I'll have to agree with muso on this one...

the pedophilles join the priesthood, precisely because the rules ban them from contact with women....so they don't need to 'pretend' an interest to fit in.....
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Reply #25 - Jul 18th, 2010 at 3:38pm
 

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 3:07pm:
muso wrote on Jul 13th, 2010 at 10:57am:
No. It's breaking celibacy that can lead to child abuse.

Seriously though, the priesthood is a convenient place for pedophiles to lurk. People who are sexually frustrated are more likely to go in search of their fantasies (mostly adult women or men)  rather than take it out on kids.

As Bob Dyland said:

Quote:
People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent.
Bob Dylan


I'll have to agree with muso on this one...

the pedophilles join the priesthood, precisely because the rules ban them from contact with women....so they don't need to 'pretend' an interest to fit in.....


IM(not-so)HO, most of them are developmentally immature and socially inept - and not just when it comes to interacting with women...

There are, of course, always a few exceptions who manage to make an artform out of womanising in the shadows - and others who are exceptionally congenial, altruistic and honourable...
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Reply #26 - Jul 18th, 2010 at 4:11pm
 
Equitist wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 3:38pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 3:07pm:
muso wrote on Jul 13th, 2010 at 10:57am:
No. It's breaking celibacy that can lead to child abuse.

Seriously though, the priesthood is a convenient place for pedophiles to lurk. People who are sexually frustrated are more likely to go in search of their fantasies (mostly adult women or men)  rather than take it out on kids.

As Bob Dyland said:

Quote:
People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent.
Bob Dylan


I'll have to agree with muso on this one...

the pedophilles join the priesthood, precisely because the rules ban them from contact with women....so they don't need to 'pretend' an interest to fit in.....


IM(not-so)HO, most of them are developmentally immature and socially inept - and not just when it comes to interacting with women...

There are, of course, always a few exceptions who manage to make an artform out of womanising in the shadows - and others who are exceptionally congenial, altruistic and honourable...


I'm not referring to the 'priesthood' in general....
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Reply #27 - Jul 18th, 2010 at 4:24pm
 

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Reply #28 - Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:07am
 
Although the intensity of sex drive varies between all individuals, and abstinence must be a hell of a thing, I believe a person would have to be seriously flawed otherwise, to find children sexually attractive.
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Reply #29 - Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:18am
 

My 12 YO son made some insightful comments to me last night, about his theory on paedophiles...

Basically, his core conclusion was that: they are 'attracted' to (sexual power plays with) pre-pubescents because they are developmentally-stuck in childhood themselves...

(As you will note, from previous comments by me, I have concluded similarly - but this particular conversation was initiated by him in relation to recent circumstances and things he had heard from different sources.)

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