The stance towards HT is a clear indication the West's "War on terror" is actually a war on Islam. HT are a group that engages in political work only, and does not believe in violent means to enact change, yet they're probably outlawed in more countries than any other Islamic group.

They expose the lies and the hypocrisy quite well, even just by their very existence.

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Well who would have ever predicted that?

Everyone.

Even the lying Islamist extremists who write their "veil", or should that read, "mask" of lies, can take comfort in the fact that their religion praises deceitfulness and dishonesty, if it confuses the kafirs.

The sad thing is the go along to get along muslims who are so weak that they will allow any ratbag with a microphone set the agenda for his culture/faith/political party.
The fact that one entity is even allowed to encompass all three areas is against all western principles of the separation of church and state, something Islam can never do, and the primary reason that Islam can never be welcomed in our land.

They sure are crap countries though.

One million followers hmmm?  let's hope they don't all get together! that's a pretty formidable army. 

adelcrow wrote on Jul 10^th, 2010 at 10:13am:


Now that's the most sensible thing I've read here in a while.

There's many on this board that sit in their homes all day listening to Alan and watching Today Tonight. They haven't travelled to any Muslim countries or met any actual Muslims - a prerequisite, you'd think, for any for any informed knowledge on the subject.

But they live in a state of heightened panic about what Muslims might do. The effect of the World Trade Centre bombings was so profound that, nine years later, Muslims present such fear to people in the West that every Muslim has come to be a suspect - a suspect of crimes that haven't been committed yet (but surely will if we don't maintain a heightened state of vigilance). The overwealming thought is "how dare they?"

The blind, unquestioning hatred has become so profound that it blocks out any semblance of reason. The Ministry of Love, of course, keeps the fear alive. It's simple, and it's easy. You don't have to think too hard. The enemy is a vague and distant shadow, a muddled shape-shifter who rears into focus every now and then in a caricature, a parody of evil in an imaginary world, a world of illusion and rhetoric; Plato's cave.

The only terrorist attack we've had on Australian soil was done by the NSW Police's Special Branch - the Hilton bombing. We didn't have any Muslims back then, so they blamed a bunch of hippies; Ananda Marga. Tim Anderson and others spent years in jail until they were found innocent. The real bombers are still out there.

These are dangerous times, and every uncovered meat line uttered is filtered through the prism of self-riteous indignation: how dare they? Who do they think they are? The uncovered meat line was absurd, but Fred Nile puts out as much. Interesting that Fred Nile's now the vanguard of the circus-crusade.

Dangerous times? As dangerous as you want them to be. Muslims can't live in liberal democracies. Muslims can't live alongside anyone else - a self-fulfilling prophecy if there was ever one.

Still, Muslims do live in liberal democracies, and they do willingly live in pluralist societies all over the world. Times are changing, however, as fundamentalism takes a hold. Fundamentalism isn't just the poison of Islam, but a poison that effects the blood of all schools of thought. Parts of India, for example, have become torn by Muslim/Hindu rifts, where they were previously integrated. Both Muslims and Hindus blame this on "politics." It's interesting the way they see politics as something completely outside their power - a function of globalization and corporate hegemony.

I've always thought the less educated were more suceptible to fundamentalism, but this is proving to be untrue. Anyone can fall pray to it, and the more distanced we become from others, the more information we consume, the more we want simple answers. Instead of empathy, we search for isolation and exclusion. We want so badly to be right, and we hide our feelings of powerlessness.

We don't live in villages anymore, where we know who does what and how things in our small world work. We're divorced from the product of our labour and the process that makes the things we consume. In the end, of course, we become alienated from our enemies - we don't know who they are anymore, so much so that they can be anyone we choose.

The Muslim serves well, but in a long tradition of enemies, he'll be replaced before long.

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Correction, I am normal, you're the abnormal one here.

It is time that our government is mindful of his own people first. I work near a place where prayer meetings every Friday for the Muslim prisoners and there is never parking and people involved in these meetings, even in the parking lot behind the shops and offices. They seem to think their rights. What kind of country and heritage, try to go to Australian children.