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Reply #660 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 11:16pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 1:26pm:
Thanks for keeping us up to date perceptions. I'm not able to participate much at the moment but I read your posts and can see the train wreck emerging.


Well, your not on your lonesome there, Pansi!

I'm finding my own time is pretty restricted, owing to my fathers fall in early January and some of the changes that are taking place, since then.

So, you may have noticed, my own postings have been well down on what I had been doing, are this site and almost none existent at some of the other OZ & US sites that I used to frequent!

But, you are correct in saying, regrettably, that the train wreck is becoming more evident & imminent!

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Reply #661 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 7:42pm
 
Housing unlikely to support growth


Something may come along to give the economy the boost it needs, but it won't be housing construction.

Not for a while anyway.


The latest figures on dwelling unit commencements - the awkward expression the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) uses to describe what everyone else calls housing starts -
warn against optimism.


The figures for the December quarter, released on Wednesday, showed a fall of 6.9 per cent in the quarter and 13.4 per cent from a year before.

It was the third sizeable quarterly fall in a row and left the level of commencements 14 per cent below the recent peak in the September quarter of 2010.

It is now not far above the lows seen in such episodes of weakness as the global financial crisis, the slump associated with the introduction of the GST in 2000, and the mid-1990s housing slump associated with the sharp tightening of monetary by the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) in the second half of 1994.

Signs from the bureau's building approvals data suggest the slide might flatten out, at least temporarily.

The level of building approvals in the first two months of 2012 was four per cent higher than in the December quarter, but that was a sad little bounce after declines since early 2010 totalling 28 per cent.

More recent housing finance figures this week showed no sign of a recovery.

They showed loans approved for new housing fell by 12 per cent in January.

This data includes the construction or purchase of new housing by both home-buyers and investors.

The fall was possibly influenced by an end of government incentives in NSW, but most likely also marked the end of a short-lived boost provided by interest rate cuts in November and December.

In any case, the fall completely reversed a rise in December and restored what the ABS estimates to be a trend that has been drifting down since August.

With housing process flatlining at best and giving investors little reason to take the plunge, and employment growth stalling and uncertainty over interest rates giving homebuyers no incentive either, there is no reason to expect the demand for new housing to pick up.

New dwelling construction might stagnate for a while, or it might contract further over the first half of 2012 but, the way the numbers are stacking up, they appear to be the only two plausible outcomes.

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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8435169
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Whilst there will no doubt be occasional us, I would suggest the trend will no doubt follow a similar trend to the US market, where new housing construction has already trended down and is now down around two thirds on 2006.
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http://www.forecast-chart.com/chart-housing-starts.html

Unless OZ went into another round of artificially bailing out the new housing market, we will most certainly follow the US trend, in both new & existing housing, over the next 5-10 years.

I highly recommend against another bailout, as that will be a waste of Public funds, as in the longer term the market will follow the Macro trends anyway.

We should bite the bullet and go with the trend, even knowing the likely effects that will generate!
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Reply #662 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 12:45pm
 
Spain edges toward economic abyss amid Europe woes


Investors concerned that Spain is fast becoming Europe's riskiest economic link and could be the next bailout candidate have plenty to worry about this week.

On Thursday, much of the country will shut down in a general strike against labor market reforms that make it cheaper for companies to fire and offers incentives for them to hire.

The next day, new center-right Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy is expected to unveil about (EURO)30 billion ($40 billion) in spending cuts and tax hikes in a deficit-slashing budget. This comes fast on the heels of a similar (EURO)15 billion austerity package unveiled less than three months ago as part of Spain's push to avoid joining the ranks of bailed-out Greece, Portugal and Ireland.

So far, Rajoy has only given hints about what's in store in the next round of fiscal pain for Spain, which is already lurching toward recession and is battered with an unemployment rate of nearly 23 percent, the highest among the 17 countries that use the euro.

But economists predict that government workers could face additional pay freezes or cuts, and that Spain's important regional governments may be forced to lay off temporary teachers and unveil reviled co-payments under which patients would pay part of the cost for national health care.

Spain has already gone through successive rounds of cuts, tax hikes and deep fears that the country -- reeling from the bursting of a massive property bubble -- could be next in line for a bailout.

The country's economy is almost twice the size of the economies of Greece, Ireland and Portugal combined -- sparking fears that its financial failure would send shockwaves throughout the region and the world's markets. More importantly, financial troubles in Spain would likely trigger a run on Italy and could ultimately lead to a breakup of the currency union.

"If you put Spain in danger, Italy is in danger and maybe even France," said Antonio Barroso, an London-based analyst with the Eurasia Group consulting firm.

Fears over Spain's future grew more intense in February when Rajoy's conservative Popular Party, which ousted the left-of-center Socialists in November, revealed that the country's 2011 deficit came in at 8.5 percent of economic output -- far above an earlier 6 percent estimate.

Italy's premier, Mario Monti, fed the concerns last weekend when he told business leaders that Spain "is giving the EU concern because the interest rates have risen, and it doesn't take much to re-create contagion that could spread" to the rest of Europe.

Others worry that overly hasty cuts in a country that used to one of the continent's top fiscal performers will further batter an economy whose downfall was largely triggered by the collapsing real-estate boom.

The global credit crunch of 2008 burst Spain's property bubble, triggering a steady rise in unemployment, and reducing government spending will likely put more people out of work, forcing them to fall behind on their mortgages.

That, in turn, could leave Spain's struggling banks with even bigger bad loan burdens and toxic property assets and push them to seek financial assistance from the state. Some economists fear that further bank bailouts could drive up Spain's debt much faster than a few years of higher government deficits.

Complicating the picture is the political risk of how angry Spaniards will get about rising unemployment -- which is already forcing many to seek jobs abroad.

The sheer scope of the anticipated cuts and the recent labor reforms are expected to push the unemployment rate beyond 25 percent, putting Spain's economy at risk of sputtering or contracting for an extended period, economists say.

"There is a risk of greater economic depression and a drop in revenue, but it is true that you have to correct public spending and get rid of some inefficient parts, even though that involves layoffs," said Juan Carlos Martinez, an economics professor with Madrid's IE Business School.

"We're going to see things happening in health and education in reducing the services and increasing some of the costs," Moreno said. "You have to get those millions of euros somewhere. It's a very straightforward way to do it, but it hurts the economy by hurting consumption."

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Watch what happens, when Consumption Demand plummets, as it is a prelude to what can be expected here!
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Reply #663 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 12:55pm
 
Fed will keep interest rates low, Bernanke signals


The Fed has pledged to keep short-term interest rates near zero until at least late 2014. But some policymakers at the central bank have questioned the wisdom of extending monetary stimulus for so long, arguing that it risks setting off inflation.

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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-economy-bernanke-20120327,0,1109569.story
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Central Banks, particularly this Central Bank, don't lower interest rates to zero, then keep them there for this long & promise to keep them there for years to come, UNLESS THERE ARE MASSIVE PROBLEMS, which there are!
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Reply #664 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 1:34pm
 
<<Spain edges toward economic abyss amid Europe woes>>

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Economic unrest leads to social unrest.

Labor rage: Arrests as General Strike locks Spain

At least 58 people have been arrested and nine injured in Spain, as thousands take part in a general strike and rally against recent labor reforms. Flag-waving protesters fear the decree will undo employers’ hands and thus rob them of their rights.

The 24-hour general strike began before dawn, along with pickets and sporadic clashes with police. Most of those arrested were detained in the early hours, after trying to stop night shift workers getting to their jobs on public transport, in factories and in wholesale markets.

Demonstrators burnt mattresses, tires and other debris in an attempt to keep workers from their jobs. A Molotov cocktail was even thrown at a police car in the eastern city of Murcia. The car was destroyed and two officers were injured by the flames.

Hundreds of flights were cancelled, several local TV stations went off air, and several factories shut down for the day, including the Nissan and Seat facilities in Catalonia. Hospitals provided only minimal care, while at least a third of public transport was halted.

Major demos took part later in the day, with some protests joined by those who had finished work.

Initially unions claimed over 250,000 people would join the strike and demonstrations in more than 100 towns and cities across the country.

"They want to end labor and social rights and finish off everything," is the theme of Thursday’s protest in Spain.

Later, unions claimed that 85% of workers had joined the strike.

There were no reports of serious violence during the demonstrations aside from street fires in Madrid and Barcelona, where roads into the city were blocked.

There are also reports that in Barcelona, demonstrators broke windows and lit a bonfire outside the Barcelona Stock Exchange. Several arrests have reportedly been made.

http://rt.com/news/spain-labor-strike-protest-720/
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Reply #665 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:43pm
 
These are some of the lyrics to Fear the Boom and Bust:

The place you should study isn't the bust
It's the boom that should make you feel leery, that's the thrust
Of my theory, the capital structure is key.
Malinvestments wreck the economy

The boom gets started with an expansion of credit
The Fed sets rates low, are you starting to get it?
That new money is confused for real loanable funds
But it's just inflation that's driving the ones

Who invest in new projects like housing construction
The boom plants the seeds for its future destruction
The savings aren't real, consumption's up too
And the grasping for resources reveals there's too few

So the boom turns to bust as the interest rates rise
With the costs of production, price signals were lies
The boom was a binge that's a matter of fact
Now its devalued capital that makes up the slack.

Far more jobs will be at risk when the boom finally goes bust, an economic forecaster warns.

Marian Wilkinson's absorbing Four Corners report this month on the collapse of the Irish economy was a powerful reminder of two fundamental truths. Booms tend to end in busts. And the busts do more harm than the boom does good.

thedailyreckoning.com
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Irish nightmare: Prepare


It could be a valuable lesson for the Gillard government - which desperately needs to reconnect with the voters and economic reality - for its advisers, for the Reserve Bank, for the federal opposition, now in effect a government-in-waiting, and for all of us.

A day after Queensland's electoral massacre, Treasurer Wayne Swan began his weekly note with another enthused spiel on how good things are - ''an economy that is growing solidly, low unemployment, very low debt, sturdy public finances, and contained inflation'' - and above all, '' a resources sector that is going from strength to strength''.


''New (resources) investment has risen from $47 billion in 2010-11 to $95 billion this year, and will rise again to an expected $120 billion in 2012-13'', he said, momentarily confusing facts and forecasts. ''The boom in investment isn't surprising given the boom in exports … (which) are likely to reach nearly $200 billion this financial year, and climb to around $258 billion in five years.''

And all this is good for us? Remember the property boom in Ireland, and how rich it made the Irish feel - until it bust?

Our boom, too, is likely to bust: most booms do. The bigger the boom, the bigger the bust.

Whether it's the late twenties or two thousand and five
Booming bad investments, seems like they'd thrive
You must save to invest, don't use the printing press
Or a bust will surely follow, an economy depressed.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/irish-nightmare-prepare-20120326-1vumc...


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Reply #666 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:06pm
 
This is a really interesting interview Perce, if you want to have a squizzy, and anyone else that's interested of course. It's long so I'll just give the link. Das is one of the few who saw the 2008 GFC before it happened.
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Welcome to the latest in our In Conversation series, between risk analyst and author Satyajit Das and Kevin Davis, Research Director of the Australian Centre for Financial Studies.

http://theconversation.edu.au/satyajit-das-europe-will-have-far-reaching-consequ...
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Reply #667 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 8:13pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:06pm:
This is a really interesting interview Perce, if you want to have a squizzy, and anyone else that's interested of course. It's long so I'll just give the link. Das is one of the few who saw the 2008 GFC before it happened.
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Welcome to the latest in our In Conversation series, between risk analyst and author Satyajit Das and Kevin Davis, Research Director of the Australian Centre for Financial Studies.

http://theconversation.edu.au/satyajit-das-europe-will-have-far-reaching-consequ...


Following are a few points of interest -

Kevin Davis: You’ve said in the past the situation in Europe worried you more than ever before in your professional life. What’s going to happen?

Satyajit Das: When the GFC started, the governments around the world essentially used their own balance sheets to issue debt; they used central banks to print money or provide other sorts of monetary accommodation, to manage the system. What we are now seeing in Europe is the limits of that strategy being reached, with the solvency of countries being questioned.

This is a completely different to the insolvency of individual companies or financial institutions. The underlying assumption of modern society is always that at the end of the day, if all else goes wrong, governments can save the day.

The question now being posed – and by no means is the answer yet in – is whether countries will go down in this crisis. Greece, in my view, has already defaulted – a write-down of $100 billion is synonymous with default. To put it into context, (Greek sovereign debt) is six times the size of Argentina’s debt, which was the world’s largest sovereign default till now.

Kevin Davis: Talking of social and political consequences, if we return to Australia we have the current dispute going on between Wayne Swan and various mining magnates. The question is, can we reach any sort of consensus on implying sensible policies?

Satyajit Das: Well, leaving the debate between the Australian government and the miners to one side –
I think the democratic process and the politics of the world relies on a very fragile construct. One is trust. And trust relies on economic growth.

Basically, the political process in the post-war era has delivered us prosperity with a few notable and relatively short periods. Our wealth and our well-being has improved. Now we are reaching a very interesting inflection point where maybe our models don’t work any more, or don’t work as well. We are ushering in a period of low growth – or maybe no growth – and in some countries like Greece, Spain and Italy, we are going to see a regression in living standards.

Under those circumstances, how can the politicians manage the electorate and its expectations? A concrete example is Greece, where the two major parties are now collectively polling less than 40%. Assuming those numbers are realised in the election in late April or May, no party will be able to form a government without a cumbersome coalition.

That creates a different tension, especially when 60% of the population is anti-Euro or certainly anti-austerity and anti-bailouts.

http://theconversation.edu.au/satyajit-das-europe-will-have-far-reaching-consequ...
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There is certainly much food for thought there, but it is still only the tip of the iceberg!
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Reply #668 - Apr 10th, 2012 at 7:35am
 
May, may have arrived earlier this year?

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^DJI
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Reply #669 - Apr 11th, 2012 at 8:08am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 7:35am:
May, may have arrived earlier this year?

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^DJI


Yep, May seems to have arrived early?
Early April that is?
You just can't trust the Climate anymore, it's changing?

http://www.forexpros.com/indices/major-indices

The DOW finished down again today, closing down 213 for the day at 12716, after being off some 130 points yesterday.

It is now down some 600 points in recent trading and it seems set for an early start to negative trading, which  usually gets under way in May?
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Reply #670 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 7:46am
 
Global Data Dampens Market Sentiment


Stocks fell, putting the S&P 500-stock index on course for its biggest weekly decline this year, after disappointing news from China and Spain damped sentiment.

http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/global-data-dampens-market-sentiment-2012...
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The DOW finished the week down 137 on the day, it is now down 482 on it's recent 12 month & post GFC high of 13,332 & volatility is returning ahead of the usual May trepidations!
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^DJI&t=3m&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=

Europe also fell.
http://www.forexpros.com/indices/major-indices

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Reply #671 - Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:03pm
 
It's too bad Labour is doing so poorly right now because holding an election and losing would be a strategically good move Wink
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Reply #672 - Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:37pm
 
Grey wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:03pm:
It's too bad Labour is doing so poorly right now because holding an election and losing would be a strategically good move Wink


That would depend?
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Reply #673 - Apr 17th, 2012 at 3:41pm
 
Well I cannot see Australia getting a free ride for much longer. We're standing on a rug with a billion Chinamen holding the edge Smiley
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Reply #674 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 11:27am
 
Chaostan, we're living in it.
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There is a place you may have been but do not know.

It's called Chaostan.

It covers a third of the world - from North Africa to the Middle East to the former Soviet Union and most of Asia. We've been there ourselves. Without realising at the time.

Richard Maybury, a geopolitical analyst and editor of the American publication U.S. & World Early Warning Report, coined the term and concept of Chaostan in 1992. Maybury's encyclopaedic knowledge of history has earned him the tag of "the 2,500-year-old man". For two decades, his predictions have proven eerily prescient.

On Chaostan, he says:

"Chaostan is the primary area that never developed rational legal systems, or at least not rational legal systems that governments are required to obey. As a result, throughout history they have suffered, and will continue to suffer, political, economic and social upheaval... chaos."

Chaostan - riddled with tribal rivalries, phony national borders and lacking any tradition of sound political or legal systems - is "a vast sea of blood and destruction". It's a fascinating concept. Consider the following world hotspots: Libya, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Chechnya.

All inside Chaostan.

But to our mind, the key idea to consider is this: Within its imaginary borders, Chaostan has three of the four fabled BRIC nations.

Most importantly, China.

But just how stable is China? A glaring assumption in the West is an industrialising China will slowly morph into a consumer society under the heavy handed but stable Communist Party. But recent events in China have put a small crack in this idea. On Tuesday, Dan Denning took up the trail.

In November a British businessman named Neil Heywood was found dead in the city of Chongqing. His death has lifted the curtain on the internal rivalries within the Chinese Communist party. At stake is the legitimacy of the Party itself and its centrality in Chinese political and economic life.

It took the self-immolation of a North African fruit seller to ignite the Arab Spring. Is it so preposterous to believe something similar could happen in China? After all, we've been here before in other nation states. Dan Denning continued on Wednesday:

Maybe the rot is already too deep. Maybe the economic and political forces unleashed by China's furious two decades of growth are too wild and powerful for the Politburo and the Communist Party to channel and contain. It wouldn't be the first time a small group of elite technocrats placed too much faith in their own ability to manage a complex system. It's what Hayek called the fatal conceit.

A lot of people are prepared to consider a China slowdown. Not many would be considering a Chinese political breakdown or civil war - and its impact on stocks.

Now that calls for a drink.

Lucky it's the weekend.


from thedailyreckoning.com.au

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