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Reply #30 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 1:56am
 

i voted for the pig-headed libs  Smiley

either be a independant or a lib this time I feel.
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Reply #31 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:02am
 
because there is not a middle ground party that I like in this country, I vote whichever way I can to make it difficult for the major party candidates. I really like it how they can be made dependent on the preferences of all the independents etc above them on the ticket. Brings the arrogance level down quite a bit.
Then again, one can always vote 1, 2,2,2,etc on the ballot paper just to stop the preferences flowing.
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Reply #32 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:09am
 

that's a very good idea
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Reply #33 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:15am
 
they cannot mark it an informal vote because your preference is clear.

Judge these people by what they have done today. They are asking the miners to stop their ads - I tell you what they will do: they will negotiate some deal with the miners to get them through the next election, then they will rejig things behind the scenes if they get back in again and shaft the miners anyway (pardon the pun). Then the miners will be left bleating, and everyone will just think they are wingeing for better treatment when Gillard has already looked after them.
That's what will happen for sure.
Why would would you trust them when they shafted their own guy - they aren't going to look after miners - they hate them because they've got money.
They are dangerous and cynical about anyone who makes money.
Rudd's family are in business aren't they.
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Reply #34 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:20am
 
and how do you think they are going to "reinterpret" the Henry Tax Review down the track so they can bring death duties back in again.
That means, folks, that if you ever inherit your parents' house or anything like that (hardly makes you wealthy anyway), the government will then send you a bill after your parents die for a huge percentage of the value of the house or whatever assets your parents worked all their lives and paid taxes for. If you haven't got the money, you have to sell your house (bad luck if you're living in it) and pay the death duties. Then you can go and live in a cardboard box somewhere because you haven't got enough left to buy another roof over your head.
That's the labor way of doing things - they call it redistribution of wealth and social justice.
B*sht. It's just a way of getting money off people who can't do anything about it.
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Reply #35 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:22am
 

that's a fundamental thing about leftardism that i can't understand.

they hate all rich people.
but all the rich people i know are the best people.
a country with NO rich people is terrible.
you really want to encourage rich people.
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Reply #36 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:32am
 
Plato, I believe, wrote that the fate of all democracies is class warfare. Too right! How does it happen - attitudes like the cynicism and jealousy of the politics of the left. The extreme version is communism - they simply take everything off you.
There is not much to understand about it, with respect - the left does not like people with money, they do not like the profit motive, they think people who operate in that system are shady. The source of public funding is taxation - nothing to do with other people having to make profits, which is somehow dirty - that's how they think, and that's how a lot of people in Australia think. It has quite a leftist perception in it's culture which it has inherited from times past.
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Reply #37 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:37am
 
that's what the libs have to talk about incessantly in my view - they seem to be doing it just recently. I notice the mining executives talk that way as well.
Do not negotiate with this mentality because that mentality does not like you: that's how they should be thinking about it.
Get tough, and never let up reminding the left that they operate from the cynicism against people who generate wealth.
The lefties can't handle that at all, they can handle every other argument but that one, and the one about them not being able to control their spending and causing huge deficits and inflation which hurts ordinary people very badly. Doesn't hurt the labor party finances - hurts ordinary people.
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Reply #38 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 8:23am
 
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Then again, one can always vote 1, 2,2,2,etc on the ballot paper just to stop the preferences flowing.


Not any more you cant, if you did that at the last federal election your vote was considered invalid.
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Reply #39 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 8:26am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:22am:
that's a fundamental thing about leftardism that i can't understand.

they hate all rich people.
but all the rich people i know are the best people.
a country with NO rich people is terrible.
you really want to encourage rich people.


It seems as though we have encouraged wealth in the past year - according to this article yesterday Sprintcyclist.

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The World Wealth Report, released by Capgemini and Merrill Lynch yesterday, revealed that the number of millionaires in Australia surged by 34.4 per cent last year to 174,000, with most recouping losses sustained in the financial crisis.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/big-rise-in-the-number-of-australias-megarich-20100623-yz7w.html


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Reply #40 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 10:43pm
 

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:22am:
that's a fundamental thing about leftardism that i can't understand.

they hate all rich people.
but all the rich people i know are the best people.
a country with NO rich people is terrible.
you really want to encourage rich people.


shampain socialist wrote on Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:32am:
Plato, I believe, wrote that the fate of all democracies is class warfare. Too right! How does it happen - attitudes like the cynicism and jealousy of the politics of the left. The extreme version is communism - they simply take everything off you.
There is not much to understand about it, with respect - the left does not like people with money, they do not like the profit motive, they think people who operate in that system are shady. The source of public funding is taxation - nothing to do with other people having to make profits, which is somehow dirty - that's how they think, and that's how a lot of people in Australia think. It has quite a leftist perception in it's culture which it has inherited from times past.


Hey SS & SC!

Firstly, I just wanted to apologise if I get you mixed up from time to time - since neither of you have an avatar and your writing styles and attitudes are so similar that you could be clones...

As for the above 2 posts...this lefty notes that you both seem to be afflicted with the right wing disability of black/white syndrome - which manifests in narrow and absolute thinking, assuming and projecting...

Notably, you assume that all lefties 'hate' people who are 'rich' - when most lefties would really prefer less polarisation of income, wealth, opportunity and power...

As for the class warfare argument, our current under-regulated system is creating such high levels of polarisation, that we now face the escalation of the GFC...

Recessions inevitably come about when the SHAREHOLDER share of production increases exponentially relative to the WAGES share...

Problem is that workers are also consumers...and, in the short-term, the rich can lend money to their customers so that they can consume - but at some point the majority of the population, the worker-consumers, become so heavily-indebted to the uber rich that they cannot lay and the whole system collapses...

Ironically, it was the Conservatives in the UK who have implemented a suggestion I've been making for some time - to set a limit of remuneration so that the ratio of the highest income earner to the lowest cannot exceed 20:1.

They've done that for the public service in the UK - but there is no valid reason why this principle cannot be rolled out across the private sector too - given that the value of the personal efforts of anybody cannot be readily justified at more than 20 of anyone else...
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Reply #41 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 11:09pm
 
"As for the class warfare argument, our current under-regulated system is creating such high levels of polarisation, that we now face the escalation of the GFC" (thy)

Unbelievable! Now it is up to the labor party to stop the GFC by redistributing wealth in Australia. How do you labor people justify this tripe in your own minds? I'd really like to know.

"They've done that for the public service in the UK" have they? Well how about labor start with the Australian public service. Not likely, they'll lose too many votes eh.

Roll on the election and get the Gillard backstabbers to face up to the Australian electorate for a payback. English-born Gillard usurps an Australian-born prime minister in the first term. Cowards.


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Reply #42 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 11:12pm
 
You lefties should remind yourself regularly to stop yourselves from getting too arrogant - which you do - that there is a very large proportion of the Australian public that don't want you. You are there by luck not by unanimous popularity. You are tolerated by many people while you are in government, but not welcomed. Think about it next time you assume everyone should think like you.
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Reply #43 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 11:16pm
 
to many people you do not come across as cosmopolitan, multicultural progressives - you come across as boringly Anglo, cardigan-wearing backroom labor cliques with a surly narrow-minded attitude to people who don't look like you think they should look like.
I am thoroughly sick of labor arrogance.
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Reply #44 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 11:18pm
 
English born Gillard will do nothing to dispel that image with her extreme left background.
I hope she gets as good as she has given to Rudd. I would like to see that day. Spit the dummy and back to England for sure.
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