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Reply #15 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:37pm
 
What the f*ck does any of that have to do with anything?

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We 'Westerners' will need to STFU, since our amoral and reckless peers and forefathers were jointly and severally responsible, for creating (and/or facilitating) the precented rules on the patently-unlevel playing field, for the dangerous international games that non-Westerners are only just beginning to master..


What's the purpose of this irrelevant tirade exactly? Are you saying that because White people did some bad things towards other peoples in the past, bad things I would remind you that all other societies and peoples have engaged in, that therefore they have no right to defend, preserve and have their own societies in a manner that they see fit?

Attitudes like yours are exactly what I'm talking about. If we weren't up to our ears with opinions like this, we would never have had to face this issue in the first place.

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PS Dare I suggest that 'we' self-serving and short-sighted Westerners have also recklessly sought to increase our own prosperity, by importing cheap (including slave) labour and outsourcing jobs to other countries...

To borrow from a religious line, 'we' are simply (and inevitably) reaping what 'we' have sown!


Yeah, what's your point? I would agree with you partially on that. I am actually suggesting a REMEDY. We need to stop being so self-serving and short-sighted concerning this matter. I WANT THIS.
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Reply #16 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:47pm
 

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:37pm:
What the f*ck does any of that have to do with anything?

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We 'Westerners' will need to STFU, since our amoral and reckless peers and forefathers were jointly and severally responsible, for creating (and/or facilitating) the precented rules on the patently-unlevel playing field, for the dangerous international games that non-Westerners are only just beginning to master..


You have a disturbed, poisoned mind. What's the purpose of this irrelevant tirade exactly? Are you saying that because White did some bad things towards other peoples in the past, bad things I would remind you that all other societies and peoples have engaged in, that therefore they have no right to defend, preserve and have their own societies in a manner that they see fit?

Attitudes like yours are exactly what I'm talking about. If we weren't up to our ears with Thy.Equitists, we would never have had to face this issue in the first place.



On the contrary, I contend that I am egalitarian, altruistic, honourable and objective - and that it is those of your ilk, who do not uphold the simple moral (and theoretically religious) principles of 'do unto others' and 'live and let live' and 'share and share alike'...

Competition, aggression, oppression, destruction and exploitation are inherently counter-productive and destructive - and they certainly do not beget long-term willing co-operation, harmony, stability, prosperity, sustainability or peace!

Any objective person would see that: 'Westerners' generally believe in competition, inequality, aggression, oppression, destruction and exploitation - although they may sometimes think to utilise more euphemistic terms in their propaganda...

Meantime, I suggest that you consider why 'Western' so-called 'defence' forces so often appear to be on the international offensive...

That said, I do not condone any of the above negative attitudes or behaviours by ANY race, religion, nation or other self-identified group...

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Reply #17 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:48pm
 
Equitist wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:37pm:
To borrow from a religious line, 'we' are simply (and inevitably) reaping what 'we' have sown! This should come as no surprise, to any rational and objective person!




How come preening Westerners only ever tell other Westerners that they are reaping as they have sown?  Lazy, corrupt, murderous or thieving third worlders are never, ever, ever, ever told by the same preening Westerners that once in a while they, the tinted people, have reaped as they have sown.  Fancy that.

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Reply #18 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:49pm
 
Soren, can you work out what this guy is saying? I can't.
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Reply #19 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:50pm
 
aikmann4 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:49pm:
Soren, can you work out what this guy is saying? I can't.


He says it's all your fault and mine.

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Reply #20 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:55pm
 
Oh okay. Let's just allow ourselves to be destroyed and our societies to be utterly transformed beyond recognition.

We've deserved it. Unlike all the non-white, non-Christian peoples we've invaded, over-run, indoctrinated, raped, exploited, oppressed, pillaged, enslaved, maimed and murdered. We're unique.

The Armenians deserved it and so do we!
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Reply #21 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:58pm
 

imp - thy wants us people who have made advances in science, engineering, medicine, education to apologise to those who have not applied themselves positively.
thy wants us to give up all our assets, bend over and apologise while the useless overbreeding unproductive ne'erdowells shove it up us - WITH no lubricant.

personally, I ain't gonna do that.
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Reply #22 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:59pm
 
aikmann4 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:37pm:
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We 'Westerners' will need to STFU, since our amoral and reckless peers and forefathers were jointly and severally responsible, for creating (and/or facilitating) the precented rules on the patently-unlevel playing field, for the dangerous international games that non-Westerners are only just beginning to master..


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What's the purpose of this irrelevant tirade exactly? Are you saying that because White people did some bad things towards other peoples in the past, bad things I would remind you that all other societies and peoples have engaged in, that therefore they have no right to defend, preserve and have their own societies in a manner that they see fit?




Nope, I am being honorable and contrite, by taking some responsibility for the amoral actions of some of my forebears - and demonstrating respect for those who were negatively impacted by same.



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Attitudes like yours are exactly what I'm talking about. If we weren't up to our ears with opinions like this, we would never have had to face this issue in the first place.



Are you serious about that!?



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PS Dare I suggest that 'we' self-serving and short-sighted Westerners have also recklessly sought to increase our own prosperity, by importing cheap (including slave) labour and outsourcing jobs to other countries...

To borrow from a religious line, 'we' are simply (and inevitably) reaping what 'we' have sown!



Yeah, what's your point? I would agree with you partially on that. I am actually suggesting a REMEDY. We need to stop being so self-serving and short-sighted concerning this matter. I WANT THIS.



Good, glad to hear it!

Now, let us - and all of humanity - take these positive steps, of taking responsibility for past mistakes and respecting basic human and legal rights, and moving forward to create the type of nation and world where our descendants can live equitably, happily, safely and prosperously!

Conflict is self-perpetuating - so, for the common good, let us all metaphorically kiss and make up, eh!?

Kiss



PS Apologies for the stuffed-up quotes - but I trust you'll get the gist.
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Reply #23 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 4:03pm
 

Look, folks...I do realise, that what I'm saying is overly idealistic and unrealistic in the present global circumstances - but I remain hopeful that humanity will wake up to itself, before we unwittingly compete, fight and destroy each other and our precious life-giving environment, to the point of earning a collective Darwin Award, in the wanton and reckless pursuit of the intangible but almighty dollar!

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Reply #24 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 6:43pm
 
I agree with the greens on this. This bill will be smacked down. It is an attempt to throw away our basic freedoms in order get back at Muslims, but it targets the victims of Islam (the women), not the men. There are plenty of good ways to free women in bad situations. Taking away their rights is not one of them. This bill would push moderates to side with extremists, because it makes us the extremists also - better the devil you know.
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Reply #25 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:37pm
 
Of course the bill will not pass this time. But do not be mistaken about how widespread the resentment is aganst Muslim special pleading.
A yahoo poll:
Should the burqa be banned in public?
Yes 83% 15908 votes
No 17% 3306 votes

Anyway, who of the liberated-minded is prepared to side with the muslim women's liberation movements? No one. The 'liberated-minded' ,  with nary an exception, are all paralised with PC. There is no Western feminist, social justice,  progressive group publicly and loudly siding with muslim women who do not want to be second class citizens, who do not want sharia law that enshrines the inferiority, do not want imams to determine their lives even when they live in the free and democratic west.

Who of you impeccably left-wing progressives will side with them? None of you, because you are all sh!tting yourselves in the face of mustachioed, bearded crazies - or else are far too busy preening and posing. You much rather side with the crazies, just to show how bloody inclusive and smacking non-judgemntal you are.

Phoney progressives  -aintcha sick of 'em?!?!



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Reply #26 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 9:27pm
 
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Of course the bill will not pass this time. But do not be mistaken about how widespread the resentment is aganst Muslim special pleading.


The only ones doing 'special pleading' are the idiots asking for the Burka to be banned.

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Who of you impeccably left-wing progressives will side with them? None of you, because you are all sh!tting yourselves in the face of mustachioed, bearded crazies


And you are bravely facing up to ... their women?
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Reply #27 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 9:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 9:27pm:
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Of course the bill will not pass this time. But do not be mistaken about how widespread the resentment is aganst Muslim special pleading.


The only ones doing 'special pleading' are the idiots asking for the Burka to be banned.

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Who of you impeccably left-wing progressives will side with them? None of you, because you are all sh!tting yourselves in the face of mustachioed, bearded crazies


And you are bravely facing up to ... their women?



No, I am siding with the women who do NOT want to have sharia imposed on them becuse they know on their own skin that they have the most to lose under sharia.

It is a twisted world where the 'progressives' and 'greens' are frantically looking for ways to justify the keeping of women coverd up, silenced and degraded, in the name of being - 'progressive' and 'inclusive'!!! Orwell did know the half of it, I tell you.








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Reply #28 - Jun 24th, 2010 at 2:35pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 10:47am:
I vote for banning the burqua.


i vote for banning the ppl who wear the burqua as well.
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Reply #29 - Jun 24th, 2010 at 2:39pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 9:44pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 9:27pm:
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Of course the bill will not pass this time. But do not be mistaken about how widespread the resentment is aganst Muslim special pleading.


The only ones doing 'special pleading' are the idiots asking for the Burka to be banned.

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Who of you impeccably left-wing progressives will side with them? None of you, because you are all sh!tting yourselves in the face of mustachioed, bearded crazies


And you are bravely facing up to ... their women?



No, I am siding with the women who do NOT want to have sharia imposed on them becuse they know on their own skin that they have the most to lose under sharia.

It is a twisted world where the 'progressives' and 'greens' are frantically looking for ways to justify the keeping of women coverd up, silenced and degraded, in the name of being - 'progressive' and 'inclusive'!!! Orwell did know the half of it, I tell you.









inclusive?
ha, ha.
this whole Multicultural bs has to stop here.
i live in "ethnic central" - to quote the Burwood, NSW, Police - and the place is a mess.
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