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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #15 - Jun 21^st, 2010 at 10:51am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 10:39am:

skippy - I see.

us rightys take a more pragmatic approach.

so despite the facts that there is no proof men is causing the climate change, or that recently the globe has cooled, or that australia will never effect the global climate, or that rudds ETS sunk, leftys still cling to the idealism ?

I'll take the forward-thinking idealism of lefties, over the backward-clinging dogma of right whingers - any day!

~~~ Jun 21^st, 2010 at 11:17am ~~~

PS Given the irony of your mentioning of the concept pragmatism, I've gotta say that Mozzaok's signature always reminds me that: all to often, the dogma of right whingers eats their pragma! Clearly, this is what the Labs are relying upon the rabid Abbott & Co to unwittingly remind the electorate of...

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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #16 - Jun 21^st, 2010 at 10:57am

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I choked on my coffee this morning, when electoral analyst Antony Green quipped on ABC News Breakfast about the irony of the Australian newspaper trying to ignore the latest Newspoll...given their recent anti-Lab/pro-Lib squawking...

LOL, look at the OZ headlines, " Abbott closes gap on Rudd" if you didn't read the small print you'd be mistaken for thinking the Libs had done well, but no, its a normal 52/48 to Labor.
Now I think the Lib supporters think Abbott is doing well as he;s not scoring 59-41s but the reality is Abbott has been in hiding for the last three weeks so he actually polls better when he shuts up, something he wont be able to do during an election campaign, when he'll look like a rabbit in a spotlight.

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010) Reply #17 - Jun 21^st, 2010 at 11:16am Later this week, I expect that Media Watch and/or Clarke & Dawe will have some poignant analysis, of the dubious and downright dishonest conduct, of the Oz and other patently partisan media outlets...
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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #18 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 8:41am

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SUPPORT for Labor has crashed so far in marginal seats in Queensland and western Sydney that the government would lose an election now.

Seats Labor won in 2007 in regional Queensland and outer Sydney, which effectively delivered its victory, are showing swings against the ALP of between 6 per cent and 12 per cent and voters have turned against the Prime Minister.

In Labor-held seats where the Greens' vote is low, support is dramatically shifting from sitting Labor MPs to the Coalition, removing hopes of Labor surviving on preferences and boosting Tony Abbott as the prospective prime minister.

Most voters are dissatisfied with Mr Rudd as Prime Minister in the five seats polled by The Australian, with a high of 61 per cent in western Sydney seat of Lindsay where the Opposition Leader is ahead as the preferred prime minister................

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/big-swings-against-kevin-rudd-in-key-ma...

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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #19 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:08am

LOL sprinty, read this and get some reality back in your life son.
"do you know how many polls the Coalition has won since the last election?

Three.

As all three of those polls have occurred since the beginning of May, do you know how many polls have been taken since May?

24."
LOL sprinty, are you embarresed for falling for this s hit? you should be ol son.So if the LIbs have won just THREE polls in all that time how many do you think Labor have won? come on mate have a go, what is 24 take away 3 mate?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41614 Gender:	Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010) Reply #20 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:13am 24 - 3 = 21. sorry if that posting causes you so much mental anguish that you need to ask me mathematics questions skippy.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #21 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:13am

http://www.newspoll.com.au/cgi-bin/polling/display_poll_data.pl?url_caller=lates...

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IF A FEDERAL ELECTION FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WAS HELD TODAY, WHICH ONE

OF THE FOLLOWING WOULD YOU VOTE FOR? IF “UNCOMMITTED”, TO WHICH ONE OF THESE DO YOU HAVE A LEANING?

PRIMARY VOTE+ LIBERAL NATIONALS COALITION LABOR GREENS OTHERS
% %% %%%

Election 24 November 2007 36.6 5.5 42.1 43.3 7.8 6.8
Newspoll 26-28 March 2010 35 3 38 43 12 7
Newspoll 16-18 April 2010 37 3 40 43 10 7
Newspoll 30 April -2 May 2010 38 5 43 35 10 12
Newspoll 14-16 May 2010 40 3 43 37 12 8
Newspoll 28-30 May 2010 38 3 41 35 16 8
Newspoll 18-20 June 2010* 36 4 40 35 15 10

*3 per cent “uncommitted” and 2 per cent “refused” excluded.

TWO PARTY PREFERRED+

Based on preference flow at November 2007 Federal election COALITION LABOR
%%

Election 24 November 2007 47.3 52.7
Newspoll 26-28 March 2010 44 56
Newspoll 16-18 April 2010 46 54
Newspoll 30 April -2 May 2010 51 49
Newspoll 14-16 May 2010 50 50
Newspoll 28-30 May 2010 49 51
Newspoll 18-20 June 2010 48 52

+ Excludes Northern Territory.

ARE YOU SATISFIED OR DISSATISFIED WITH THE WAY MR KEVIN RUDD IS DOING HIS JOB AS PRIME MINISTER?

SATISFIED DISSATISFIED UNCOMMITTED

%% %
March 26-28 2010 51 39 10
April 16-18 2010 50 41 9
April 30 -May 2 2010 39 50 11
May 14-16 2010 39 51 10
May 28-30 2010 36 54 10
June 18-20 2010 36 55 9

[b]ARE YOU SATISFIED OR DISSATISFIED WITH THE WAY MR TONY ABBOTT IS DOING HIS JOB AS LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION? [/b]

SATISFIED DISSATISFIED UNCOMMITTED

%% %
March 26-28 2010 44 43 13
April 16-18 2010 46 40 14
April 30 -May 2 2010 45 43 12
May 14-16 2010 42 45 13
May 28-30 2010 37 49 14
June 18-20 2010 38 49 13

WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD MAKE THE BETTER PRIME MINISTER?

MR KEVIN MR TONY
RUDD ABBOTT UNCOMMITTED
% % %
March 26-28 2010 59 27 14
April 16-18 2010 56 29 15
April 30 -May 2 2010 50 32 18
May 14-16 2010 49 33 18
May 28-30 2010 49 33 18
June 18-20 2010 46 37 17

These surveys were conducted on the telephone by trained interviewers in all states of Australia and in both city and
country areas. Telephone numbers and the person within the household were selected at random. The data has been
weighted to reflect the population distribution. The latest survey is based on 1,147 interviews among voters. The maximum margin of sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points. Copyright at all times remains with Newspoll.
More poll information available at www.newspoll.com.au

© Copyright NEWSPOLL
Any reproduction of this material must credit both NEWSPOLL and THE AUSTRALIAN

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010) Reply #22 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:17am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:13am: 24 - 3 = 21. sorry if that posting causes you so much mental anguish that you need to ask me mathematics questions skippy. So how many does that mean Labor have won out of the 24 polls in the last six weeks then sprint?
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iamtheman012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 916	Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010) Reply #23 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:24am So how many does that mean Labor have won out of the 24 polls in the last six weeks then sprint? ____________________ That would be 2.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #24 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:33am

iamtheman012 wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:24am:

So how many does that mean Labor have won out of the 24 polls in the last six weeks then sprint?
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That would be 2.

Hello Iamdungpuncher, you must be following me around.
Labor have won 21 polls in the last six weeks, fvckwit, LOL LOL LOL
The Libs have won 3, LOL LOL LOL

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iamtheman012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 916	Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010) Reply #25 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:37am Hello Iamdungpuncher, you must be following me around. Labor have won 21 polls in the last six weeks, fvckwit, LOL LOL LOL The Libs have won 3, LOL LOL LOL __________________ And WHO won the 50/50 mincer boy?
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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #26 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:40am

Hmnnn....

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 8:41am:

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SUPPORT for Labor has crashed so far in marginal seats in Queensland and western Sydney that the government would lose an election now.

Seats Labor won in 2007 in regional Queensland and outer Sydney, which effectively delivered its victory, are showing swings against the ALP of between 6 per cent and 12 per cent and voters have turned against the Prime Minister.

In Labor-held seats where the Greens' vote is low, support is dramatically shifting from sitting Labor MPs to the Coalition, removing hopes of Labor surviving on preferences and boosting Tony Abbott as the prospective prime minister.

Most voters are dissatisfied with Mr Rudd as Prime Minister in the five seats polled by The Australian, with a high of 61 per cent in western Sydney seat of Lindsay where the Opposition Leader is ahead as the preferred prime minister................

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/big-swings-against-kevin-rudd-in-key-ma...

Hang on, folks...the latest Newspoll apparently 'interviewed' and 'weighted' the voting intentions of a total of 1147 Australia-Wide...

They then produced separate tables for a total of 5 marginal seats in Qld and NSW - which begs questions as to the statistical reliability of at least the marginal seat data...

Are we to believe, that they polled a statistically significant number of people in each of these 5 electorates in the first instance!?

I, for one, would like to see the raw data...

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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #27 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:43am

iamtheman012 wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:37am:

Hello Iamdungpuncher, you must be following me around.
Labor have won 21 polls in the last six weeks, fvckwit, LOL LOL LOL
The Libs have won 3, LOL LOL LOL
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And WHO won the 50/50 mincer boy?

Cheesy

The what? speak English dungpunch.
As you can see the Libs are back,LOL, they've won three polls out of twentyfour in the past six weeks, LOL

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Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010)
Reply #28 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:45am

Hang on, folks...the latest Newspoll apparently 'interviewed' and 'weighted' the voting intentions of a total of 1147 Australia-Wide...

Tthey then produced separate tables for a total of 5 marginal seats in Qld and NSW - which begs questions as to the statistical reliability of at least the marginal data...

Are we to believe, that they polled a statistically significant number of people in each of these 5 electorates in the first instance!?

I, for one, would like to see the raw data...

________________________

Nem, as i am someone who lives in the Lindsay electorate, i will confirm that that result would be pretty much spot on. The only reason the ALP won in 2007 was due to boundary changes, which have now been changed back. The ALP candidate only moved up here last year from North Suburbs of Sydney and has no idea about the area. The ALP are toast next election.

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iamtheman012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 916	Re: NEWSPOLL: 52-48 to Labor (20-Jun-2010) Reply #29 - Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:46am The what? speak English dungpunch. As you can see the Libs are back,LOL, they've won three polls out of twentyfour in the past six weeks, LOL ______________ Gee you're thick mate. Have another think about it. LOL.
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