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Reply #135 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 7:33pm
 
First peak oil, now peak coal, says former Cal prof


This story from Mason Inman of National Geographic News warns that we’re perched on the brink of peak production of one of the world’s crucial energy sources, coal.

For folks here in Berkeley, the name of researcher who’s work Inman relies on will strike a familiar chord. It’s Tad Patzek, formerly of UC Berkeley, where he was one of the most outspoken of the critics of the university’s $500 million contract with BP.

Patzek, who has warned that peak oil will force major changes in American lifestyles, now cautions that the fuel we rely on for much of our electricity and most of the world’s steel production:

No matter how bad coal might be for the planet, the conventional wisdom is that there is so much of it underground that the world’s leading fuel for electricity will continue to dominate the energy scene unless global action is taken on climate change.

But what if conventional wisdom is wrong?

A new study seeks to shake up the assumption that use of coal, the most carbon-intensive fossil fuel, is bound to continue its inexorable rise. In fact, the authors predict that world coal production may reach its peak as early as next year, and then begin a permanent decline.

The study, led by Tad Patzek, chairman of the Department of Petroleum and Geosystems Engineering at the University of Texas at Austin, and published in the August issue of Energy, predicts that by mid-century, the world’s coal mining will supply only half as much energy as today.


The idea that the world will face “peak coal” as soon as 2011 flies in the face of most earlier estimates and analysis.

The London-based World Coal Institute, an industry group including the largest international coal producers, says “the use of coal will rise 60 percent over the next 20 years,” and that “coal will last us for at least 119 years.” And the U.S. Energy Information Administration, in its most recent international outlook, projects that coal consumption for electricity will grow more than 50 percent by 2035 unless policies are put in place to stop the growth of greenhouse gas emissions.

However, the Patzek study paints a far different picture — and not because people will use up the last of the coal in the ground. Rather, the world will finish off the coal that is easy to reach and high-quality — the coal that produces a large amount of energy per ton, the new study says. What remains will often be of lower quality, and progressively harder to dig up and bring to where it is used.

The study’s prediction for the time of the peak — actually a peak in the energy produced by global coal production — may not turn out to be exactly right, Patzek said. “I’m not saying that on July 1, 2011, there will be a peak.”

But the main thrust of the study is stark: “We are near or at the peak right now,” he said.

If true, this could have a vast impact on the world economy.

Coal-fired power plants supply 40 percent of the world’s electricity, and energy for two-thirds of the world’s steel production.

“If we are right,” Patzek’s study said, “major restructuring and shrinking of the global economy will follow.”


Many countries are counting on coal to continue powering their economies for decades to come.

“The United States is the Saudi Arabia of coal,” said President Barack Obama earlier this year, referring to estimates that the United States has the largest coal reserves of any country. Citing the huge stores and the need for clean energy, Obama made the remark at the launch of a task force to study how to deploy technology to “clean up” coal, through carbon capture and storage technology, in the next 10 years.

However, Patzek argues that the reserves estimates of the United States and other countries overstate how much coal is actually practical to mine and use.

“In my study, I disregard completely these [reserve] estimates,” Patzek said. “They’re not credible.”

“The only estimate that’s credible,” he argued, “is what actually comes out of the mines, and how you project that into the future.”
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So, there may well be a lot of Coal left, but at what quality, what is it's Energy producing capacity and at what cost?
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Reply #136 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 9:33pm
 
The Peak Oil Crisis: Is $50 Oil in the Offing?


In the last few weeks, there has been an upswing in articles emanating from prestigious commentators, such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), and Fortune magazine, which attempt to debunk the notion that the world's oil supplies may start to fall in the next few years.

There is of course nothing new in the AIE's and Fortune's arguments that there is plenty of oil left in the ground and that free enterprise, new technology, and higher prices will bring all the oil you will ever want to your nearest gas station in time to avert an economic crisis. Fortune even talks about a great glut of oil and lower prices ($50 a barrel) that will soon emerge from the unusually high U.S. stockpiles, a great surge in Iraqi and Kazakh oil production, and more efficient cars.

The editors commissioning these pieces and the authors apparently have never looked at the IEA's and EIA's oil production and demand charts which show global production has been flat for five years, and that demand from China, India, and domestic consumption in oil producing countries is rising steadily. There are simply not enough new oil fields being drilled to offset declines in production from currently producing oil fields.

Now what does peak oil tell us about economic growth? In a nutshell, it says that continuing to grow with declining global supplies of oil and eventually coal and then natural gas is going to be very difficult if not impossible to pull off. For the last 100 years, the global economy has been in lockstep with global oil production. More growth requires more oil. There are of course many unknowns and interactions ahead. We have no idea how fast global oil production is going to go down or how much is going to be available to oil importing economies. We have no idea whether China, India and the oil exporters are going to be able to continue growing at 8-10 percent a year until they hit the wall of falling resources.

Closer to home, we have no idea whether the economies of the U.S. and the other OECD countries are going to lurch along with little or no growth for the foreseeable future or sink further into decline under the weight of massive public and private debt. There are simply too many variables to work out a likely path ahead. While there are substitutes for oil and many ways to conserve or increase the efficiency with which we use the world's remaining resources, these substitutions cannot happen overnight. While discretionary motoring can be abandoned, conservation programs started, and car pools formed relatively quickly, implementing sufficient efficiencies in energy consumption will take decades - even if there remain sufficient resources to implement the required changes.

Therefore, peak oil is a phenomenon no one with an interest in the status quo cares to acknowledge publicly or even think about for it implies there will be massive changes in ways of life. Those "debunking" peak oil know this, but they also want to keep the status quo moving for as long as possible. Once a critical mass of people understands that global oil production will soon be in a decline and a return to economic growth will become nearly impossible, behavior will change. A massive scramble will ensue that likely will cause great harm to the financial services industry that has grown so large and influential in recent decades.


It is to delay the realization of what is about to happen on the part of the general public for as long as possible, is what motivates the debunkers. Until the day when declines in global oil production become too obvious to deny we will continue to read stories about $50 oil.
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Yes, The "status quo" will only go, if dragged kicking & screaming and even then, not until after a great deal of damage is done!
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Reply #137 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 10:51am
 
Coal's days numbered as power fuel


COAL is becoming the dinosaur among fuel sources, irrespective of future political decisions about a carbon price or an emissions trading scheme.
The economics of electricity -- with the coal price skyrocketing, tighter regulations on coal-fired power, and uncertainty around future emissions laws -- have put gas in the driver's seat.

The proportion of power generated by coal is dropping rapidly, and state governments and industry alike regard the emergence of new coal-fired baseload power station proposals as unlikely.

A recent report by the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics showed that, among electricity projects that are advanced but not yet on line, only 9 per cent of capacity will be coal-generated. The report predicts coal's share of power generation will drop from 72 per cent to 43 per cent between now and 2030, while the share contributed by gas will almost double to 37 per cent.

None of the states have issued outright bans on coal, but NSW and Queensland have introduced tight rules, adding significantly to the cost of coal-fired stations.

The rules resemble those projected by Prime Minister Julia Gillard during the election campaign. They deem that any coal-fired stations must use low-emissions technology and be able to be retrofitted with carbon-capture technology, when it becomes available.

South Australian Energy Minister Pat Conlon told The Australian yesterday the best way to deal with the issue of fuel was to introduce an emissions trading scheme.

"The sooner we have an ETS or some clear understandable method of pricing carbon, the sooner we will see the next stage of investment in baseload," Mr Conlon said. "On present indications, we would believe that gas would be the most likely fuel used in new baseload."

Western Australia does not currently have a plan for its future baseload power generation and the role coal will play in that.

In Victoria, Premier John Brumby has committed to cutting greenhouse emissions by at least 20 per cent on year 2000 levels by 2020, driven by a focus on solar.
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If Australia does start to transition away from Coal, it will be taking an opposite tack to China & the USA, which are busy building old style Coal power stations.

One very good reason to move away from Coal, is that we are faced with higher costs, as the higher grades of Coal Peak and we are forced to shift to lower grades, which produce less Energy & more CO2.

Western Australia appears to be waiting & hoping that things will change? And that may happen, as Babcock & Brown, the owners of Alinta Gas, who are the sole supplier of Gas to WA & also supply about a third of South Australia's gas, are reportedly nearing receivership, as they struggle to find agreement with the lenders.

Finally, I repeat again, an ETS is not the answer. I suggest that legislated, mandatory cuts in GHG emissions, backed by tax carrots & sticks would be a better option!
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Reply #138 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 9:32pm
 
EROI, Insidious Feedbacks, and the End of Economic Growth


Numerous theories attempting to explain business cycles have been posited over the past century, each offering a unique explanation for the causes of--and solutions to--recessions, including: Keynesian Theory, the Monetarist Model, the Rational Expectations Model, Real Business Cycle Models, New (Neo-) Keynesian models, etc…

Yet, for all the differences amongst these theories, they all share one implicit assumption: a return to a growing economy, i.e. growing GDP, is in fact possible. Historically, there has been no reason to question this assumption as GDP, incomes, and most other measures of economic growth have in fact grown steadily over the past century. (Note: economic growth and “business as usual” economic growth are used synonymousy to mean an annual growth in GDP)

But if you believe as I do that the world is entering a unique period defined by flattening and then declining oil supplies, then for the first time in history we may be asked to grow the economy while simultaneously decreasing oil consumption, something that has yet to occur in the U.S. In this post I attempt to answer the following question: Is a return to long term economic growth possible?

Economic growth over the past 200 years has correlated highly with energy consumption (Figure 1). Even more telling, since 1970, 50% of the year on year change in GDP in the U.S. is explained by the year on year change in oil consumption alone (Figure 2). This is important because oil consumption per se is rarely used by neoclassical economists as a means of explaining economic growth. For example, Knoop (2010) described the 1973 recession in terms of high oil prices, high unemployment and inflation, yet omitted mentioning that oil consumption declined four percent during the first year and two percent during the second year. Later in the same description, Knoop claimed that the emergence from this recession in 1975 was due to a decrease in both the price of oil and inflation, and an increase in money supply. To be sure, those factors contributed to the recession and the emergence from the recession, but what was omitted, again, was the simple fact that higher oil prices led to less oil consumption and lower economic output during 1973 and lower oil prices led to increased oil consumption and hence greater economic output in 1975.
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Figure 1. Energy production and GDP for the world from 1830 to 2000.

To summarize: economic growth requires not only energy per se, but inexpensive energy.
With that point in mind, we can address the previous question about whether or not a future of long term economic growth is possible by answering two sub-questions: 1) do we have the physical resources to supply a growing economy, and 2) can we reach those supply targets while maintaining a low price? Since long term economic growth requires an increasing supply of cheap energy, answering no to either of these sub-questions would indicate that long term economic growth is unlikely.

First, economic growth requires increasing oil supplies, so increasing GDP by 4 or 5 percent per annum will require a commensurate increase in oil supplies. Although most of the readers on this website are aware of Peak Oil, some argue that it is a red herring. I will not go into the numerous arguments rebutting the naysayers other than saying the following: what matters in the context of business as usual economic growth is whether we can continue increasing our oil supply into the future or whether oil supplies will be constrained. In this context, the actual date of the peak is irrelevant. Even a cursory examination would reveal that, at a minimum, oil supplies will be constrained in the future.

Second, increasing the supply of oil will require maintaining current production and discovering new sources of oil. This includes maintaining production in oil sands, exploring ultra deep water, and exploring even the poles. Let’s say, for argument sake, that we are able to find oodles of oil in these locations. The question then becomes: can we produce this oil cheaply? We can get a glimpse at how production costs change over time by relating the EROI of production to the financial cost of production (Figure 4).

As resource quality declines, i.e. lower EROI, the cost of producing the resource increases. Alternatively, if we examine a supply graph for global oil production we can see an interesting relation between quantity and price (Figure 5). Both of these figures indicate that increasing oil production much beyond today’s level will create an exponential increase in price. In sum, increasing the oil supply, if in fact we can do such a thing, can occur only at high oil prices.

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Figure 4. Oil production costs from various sources as a function of the EROI of those sources. The dotted lines represent the real oil price averaged over both recessions and expansions during the period from 1970 through 2008.
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Reply #139 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 9:45pm
 
EROI, Insidious Feedbacks, and the End of Economic Growth (Cont)


Due to the depletion of high EROI oil (and hence cheap oil), the current economic situation can be described by the following feedbacks (Figure 6): 1) economic growth increases oil demand, 2) higher oil demand increases oil production from lower EROI resources, 3) increasing extraction costs leads to higher oil prices, 4) higher oil prices stall economic growth or cause economic contractions, 5) economic contraction leads to lower oil demand, 6) lower oil demand leads to lower oil prices which spur another short bout of economic growth until this cycle repeats itself.

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This system of insidious feedbacks is aptly described as a growth paradox: maintaining business as usual economic growth will require the production of new sources of oil, yet the only sources of oil remaining require high oil prices, thus hampering economic growth.

The growth paradox leads to a highly volatile economy that oscillates frequently between expansion and contraction periods, and as a result, there may appear to be numerous peaks in oil production (a so-called "undulating plateau"). In terms of business cycles, the main difference between economic models of the past and the this model is that in the past business cycles appeared as oscillations around an increasing trend whereas in this model they appear as oscillations around a flat trend. In other words, our baseline economic models may be switching from an implicit 1 or 2 percent growth to a steady-state, or dare I say, declining trend.

So arguments that cite vast oil reserves 10,000 leagues under the sea or in the poles as evidence that peak oil will not matter need to realize that in terms of economic growth, oil per se isn’t enough. Cheap oil is needed for economic growth, and we are simply running out of the good, cheap crude.
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Whilst I agree with the basic trust of what the author is saying, I would also say that Oil & Energy do not exist in isolation.

Oil & Energy per se, are part of an interlocking whole, in which humanity integrates Population issues, such as Aging, over-population & decline, other major factors include Debt, Climate Change & human interaction with ourselves.

The human condition itself is a source of major conflict, as some want to retain what they have, whilst others see what is available and seek it for themselves!

You talk of a flat trend, a steady state and possibly dare to say, declining trend.

I would observe that you have rightly pointed out regarding Oil & Energy and that the other major factors of Aging (Baby Boomer Bust), an actual declining population starting within 20-30 years, Global Debt oveflowing & Climate Change, are all conspiring to prevent the usual Economic remedies!

Given the broad thrust of all major influencing factors, I would suggest that there can be no flat trend and no steady state.

Global Economics is now set on that growth paradox, which leads to a highly volatile economy, which oscillates frequently between expansion and contraction, but now the new trend line is down and it is set to continuing reversing until probably the end of this century or longer.

As usual, there is a possible way out and that depends on whether a cheap and abundant replacement for Fossil Fuels is found, in terms of Power generation, Liquid Transport Fuels & the many others uses, as well as a quick agreement can be found thru the human condition, to implement that new Energy source, with a Manhattan project urgency, on a Global basis!

One of the comments to this article also included the following useful charts -
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I draw your attention to the similar trajectory followed by growth in Human Population & growth in Fossil Fuels usage and I also draw attention to the expected Fossil Fuel Peak Production dates -
2012 - Oil
2024 - Coal
2029 - Gas  

2018 - Peak All Fossil Fuels
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Reply #140 - Sep 20th, 2010 at 5:00pm
 
Chris Martensons Crash Course


Anyone wanting to get a holistic handle on current & future events, including Financial issues, would do well to review all of the following!

Personally, I would view Chapter 19, for an overview, then go back to Chapter’s 1 thru 18, to get a full perspective. Finally, look at Chapter 20 to view, What should we do?

The following observation of Arthur Schopenhauer is included in these videos and is very apt!

All Truth passes through three stages.

First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Chapter 1 – Three Beliefs


Chapter 2 – The three E’s


Chapter 3 – Exponential Growth


Chapter 4 – Compounding is the Problem


Chapter 5 – Growth Vs Prosperity


Chapter 6 – What is Money?


Chapter 7 – Money Creation


Chapter 8 – The Fed & Money Creation


Chapter 9 – A brief History of US Money


Chapter 10 - Inflation


Chapter 11 – How much is a TRILLION?


Chapter 12 – DEBT (1 of 2)


Chapter 12 – DEBT (2 of 2)


Chapter 13 – A National Failure to Save (1 of 2)


Chapter 13 – A National Failure to Save (2 of 2)



Chapter 14 – Assets & Demographics (1 of 2)


Chapter 14 – Assets & Demographics (2 of 2)



Chapter 15 – Bubbles (1 of 2)


Chapter 15 – Bubbles (2 of 2)



Chapter 16 – Fuzzy Numbers (1of 2)


Chapter 16 – Fuzzy Numbers (2of 2)



Chapter 17a – Peak Oil (1 of 2)


Chapter 17a – Peak Oil (2 of 2)



Chapter 17b – Energy Budgeting


Chapter 17c – Energy & the Economy


Chapter 18 – Environment Data (1 of 2)


Chapter 18 – Environment Data (2 of 2)


Chapter 19 – Future Shock


Chapter 20 – What should I do?
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Reply #141 - Sep 20th, 2010 at 9:33pm
 
Arithmetic, Population & Energy

Dr Albert Bartlett


(Part 1 of 8)


(Part 2 of 8)


(Part 3 of 8)


(Part 4 of 8)


(Part 5 of 8)


(Part 6 of 8)


(Part 7 of 8)


(Part 8 of 8)


The Bacteria comparison in Chapter 3, is apt!

But, there are a few other apt observations –
1) Technology Optimists will always be able to solve all of our Population Growth, Food, Energy & Resources problems?
2) Thinking is upsetting, it tells us things, we’d rather not know!
3) The chief source of problems, is solutions!
4) Facts do not cease to exist, simply because they are ignored1
5) The 1st Law of Sustainability, is that Population growth &/or growth in the rates of Consumption of Resources
CAN NOT BE SUSTAINED!
6) The greatest shortcoming of the human race, is OUR INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE EXPONENTIAL FUNCTION!
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Reply #142 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 9:51pm
 
Peak Oil Interview: Misconceptions, Replacing Oil, and False Solutions




The misconception that Peak Oil means we are running out of oil
The idea that oil will be very difficult to replace, and impossible to replace solely with biomass
The danger posed by false solutions (which I denoted the ‘fake fire brigade‘ in my presentation)
The difficulty the developing world will have in attaining a ‘First World‘ standard of living
What will happen if oil peaks soon and declines rapidly
The reasons for the rise in oil prices over the past decade
That we are now comfortable with $80 oil — and why that is dangerous
The fact that some “renewable energy” is mostly embedded fossil energy
The reason I prefer thermochemical technologies over biochemical technologies
The types of projects that my company is working on; primarily energy projects that can be operated on low fossil fuel inputs and ideally off the grid (i.e., projects that could provide meaningful energy in a world in which oil supplies are declining)
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Reply #143 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 10:08pm
 
The Biggest Systemic Risk For The Financial System Is Limited Oil


It seems to me that if we are in fact reaching limits with respect to oil supply, this should be of considerable concern. We have a financial system that demands economic growth, for reasons that will be discussed later in this paper. At the same time, as we approach limits with respect to oil production, the ability of the world’s economy to grow becomes constrained, because in order for economic growth to occur, we will need to do more and more, with less and less oil.

The conflict of these two forces – a need for economic growth in a world that can no longer provide growing oil supply – sets the financial system up for a systemic risk of collapse. Furthermore, there is significant evidence that the financial problems of 2008 were early signs of this systemic risk affecting the financial system. If oil supply should actually begin to decline in the future, we can expect financial problems of 2008 to return and worsen.

Oil’s Connection to the Economy

Oil is used for a huge number of purposes—transportation fuel, heating fuel, fuel for extracting minerals of all types, lubricant, and raw material for asphalt for road paving, plastics, synthetic cloth, medicines, fertilizer, pesticides, and herbicides, to name a few things. A declining oil supply, or even a level supply, should be a serious concern, with the world’s rising population.

In recent years, there have been many attempts to try to find substitutes for oil, but with very limited success.


Other so-called replacements for oil are only very partial replacements, and are still very far away from being full-scale solutions. Biofuel from algae is being investigated, but it is still very expensive, and not yet scalable. Electric cars are being developed, but they still are many years from being ready to replace our huge fleet of cars with internal combustion engines.

It should noted that the problem with oil supply is really an economic one.
At some point, limits are reached in the amount people can afford to pay for oil, and we may already approaching those limits.

Timing
Many observers would like us to believe that limits on oil and other resources are still a long way off, but this is not really true. World crude oil production has already stopped rising. Oil production has been essentially flat from 2005 to 2010,6 meaning that more and more cars and trucks must compete for the same fuel supply.

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Impacts

While crude oil supply has not yet begun declining, it had been essentially flat since 2005, and this lack of growth is putting tremendous pressure on the world’s financial system, since we now must do more and more with essentially the same oil supply. Oil prices have risen, and this is one source of financial problems, because higher oil prices have a disruptive impact on balance of payments, and can also cause a reduction in profits of companies.

But higher oil prices can also lead to recession and debt defaults.
High oil prices don’t give ordinary citizens more salary to spend, so they have to cut back on something else. One possibility is a cutback in discretionary spending, which will tend to lead to recession. If the cutback is in buying new homes, the price of new homes can be expected to drop. James Hamilton wrote a paper called, “Causes and Consequences of the Oil Shock of 2007-2008” showing that the run up in oil prices in the years prior to 2008 was sufficient to cause the major recession we have recently experienced.9

Economic System’s Need for Growth
Our current economic system includes a huge amount of debt. Money is loaned into existence. Debt is used to finance many business expansions. Governments rely heavily on debt.

The US economy has been growing for many years, with only brief interruptions, so nearly all of our experience with borrowing money, and paying it back with interest, has been during periods of economic growth.

Borrowing from the future is relatively easy when the economy is growing, because when the time comes to pay back the debt, the debtor’s economic condition is likely to be as good as it was when the loan was taken out, and may even be better. So defaults are relatively uncommon, and the growth in the economy between the time the loan was taken out and the time it is repaid provides some contribution toward the interest payments.

But what if we start encountering a very different kind of world, one with a decline in oil supplies? If oil resources constrain economic growth, debt defaults can be expected to rise, and the whole debt system underlying our financial system is at risk. Insurance companies are very much at risk too, because many of their assets are bonds. In the past, these bonds would have been repaid with interest, but in a world with little economic growth, and perhaps economic decline, the risk of default becomes much higher.

Even if we should discover a way around our problems—say a new technology, which permits more oil extraction at lower cost, or a better substitute for oil, financial institutions--including insurance companies--are still likely to encounter substantial systemic risk related to debt defaults in the next few years.
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Reply #144 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 9:01am
 
Peak Oil Consumption - How much oil is left?



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Whilst Reserves & Consumption will fluctuate, both up & down, on current indications we (humans) will be running on the fumes of an empty Oil tank around the middle of this century.
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Reply #145 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 10:23pm
 
SA is nearing peak coal, say scientists


South Africa has more coal than it can ever burn, right? If you think this, as many of us do, think again.

Research by international and local scientists has shown that coal, like other resources, is finite and can be expected to comply with peak resources theory. The theory shows that production in commodities such as oil grows until a peak is reached, whereafter production declines.

In the case of South African coal, the studies show production has already reached its peak, or soon will.


"It is commonly believed that South Africa has abundant coal reserves which will last 200 years or more," says Jeremy Wakeford, chair of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (Aspo) in South Africa, in the organisation’s latest newsletter.

"But recent research [from] three scientific journals suggests that usable reserves are much smaller than previously thought, and that annual production could reach a peak and begin to decline within a decade -- or might even have peaked already."

Wakeford says that "given the country’s overwhelming dependence on coal, this issue has huge ramifications for our future development path".

Coal provides 70% of the country’s energy supply, supports 90% of electricity generation, is used to make a quarter of the country’s liquid fuels using the Sasol process and is a big earner of foreign exchange through exports to foreign users.

Geologist Chris Hartnady, in a paper to be published in the SA Journal of Science, has forecast peak production in 2020 at about 285-million tonnes a year.

This compares with total production last year of 242-million tonnes. This was mostly used by Eskom (123-million tonnes), Sasol (40-million tonnes) and export (66-million tonnes). Eskom’s current expansion programme could use an additional 50-million tonnes, and if the Sasol Mafutha project goes ahead it will need another 20-million tonnes annually, says Wakeford.

David Rutledge, a professor at the California Institute of Technology, has meanwhile forecast South African production to peak in 2011 at about 253-million tonnes a year.

This is supported by research by two American professors, says Wakeford, Tadeusz Patzek and Gregory Croft, published this year in the journal Energy. "They estimate that South Africa’s coal production from existing coal fields, when measured in energy units, peaked in 2007.


"They further contend that future mines are unlikely to reverse the trend since the economics of mining dictates that most accessible reserves are mined earlier on, so that the net energy return from the coal mining declines while the production costs rise over time," says Wakeford.

Eskom chief executive Brian Dames bemoaned the poor quality of coal Eskom is receiving in a briefing to parliamentarians earlier this month.

Dames said that Eskom was losing 1 000 megawatts of power each day because of the low quality of coal it was being supplied. He warned that the utility may have to start paying higher prices to improve the quality of its coal supplies and that these costs would be passed on to consumers.

Wakeford said that the implications of peak coal are stark. "The cost of coal is almost certainly going to maintain a rising trend -- albeit with greater volatility -- resulting in increasingly expensive electricity and steel."

"Domestic demand for coal could increasingly compete with exports, raising questions around how the country’s natural resources should best be utilised and the role and rights of privately owned mining companies.

Wakeford said that leaving aside social and environmental concerns around carbon dioxide emissions, water scarcity, pollution and health impacts, entrenching dependence on a depleting fossil fuel is taking the country down a cul-de-sac.

He said that the solution is to embark on an aggressive drive for energy conservation and efficiency while diversifying our energy mix away from coal as an imperative. "We should not wait until coal becomes too expensive or scarce, but invest now in renewable energy infrastructure and industries.
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Do we wait for the scientists to tell us (OZ) that our Coal Production has Peaked?

Or, has it already and that is the real reason for increasing power costs?

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Reply #146 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 10:29pm
 
Peak of the Devil


The very best we can hope for is a smooth and orderly transition from the modern oil powered world we have now to a stable world of little or no oil in the next hundred years or so. Human nature being what it is, I don’t look for that smooth and orderly part to happen so much.

It would be comforting to think that we can change our lives without disruption and conflict; that we can all work together toward this one common goal and put aside our differences and minimize the trauma and drama.

It would also be nice if there were no calories in chocolate and we could eat all we wanted without gaining weight. Again, don’t look for that to happen either.

Peak oil, and the aftermath of that peak, is going to cause traumatic shocks that will unsettle virtually every aspect of our lives, no matter where you live.

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Reply #147 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 2:00pm
 
It's not that people who are concerned about the depletion of natural resources don't understand economics, it's that they don't understand what economics is. Economics is how we appropriate or ration out limited resources. The most successful way we've ever figured out of doing that is the price system. The price system is simply a way of measuring demand so you can appropriate supply more efficiently. You have milk, you make ice-cream and yoghurt out of it, heaps of of people buy your ice-cream but not your yoghurt, so you appropriate more of your milk to ice-cream so as not to waste it on yoghurt. Like milk, crude oil is used for more than just petrol. But the reason most of it used for petrol and not wasted on too much kerosene or asphalt is because we let the supply of oil be determined by a price system.

The price system also tells us just how scarce a resource is. Beach houses are expensive because there's not enough beachfront property to go around. But a beachfront property is highly desirable. So the high prices of beach houses reflect their high demand and limited supply. As a result of the high price of owning beach front property, only a few can purchase it. As oil reserves deplete, the price of oil will rise to reflect its scarcity. The higher the price of oil, the less people will be able to afford it which will create a huge demand for alternative sources of energy. The more you understand these economic mechanism, the less worried you are that oil is going to run out and we're going to have an energy crisis.
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Reply #148 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 4:43pm
 
I think that everybody understands the concept of supply and demand. And that is the big concern.

Yes I can invisage a time, maybe in the not too distant future, where fossil fuels will largely be used by more essential industries such as: agriculture, airlines, military..etc.
But what does that mean for the rest of us? I can only see that it means rising prices for a lot of the essentials and non-essentials that we take for granted.
In real terms (the buying power of our dollar), our wages must drop.
Whether that is achieved by wage squeeze, taxes, inflation, or a combination of all, the result will be the same.

And yes I agree that there will a huge demand for alternate sources of energy. What you're not factoring in is that our entire infrastucture is reliant on the abundance and efficiency of oil. Even a very smooth transition away from this reliance will be very costly.
Also, the end result where the masses aren't so reliant on fossil fuels may not be so rosy for a long while to come.
The demand will definitely be there for technology to make some leaps and bounds in renewable energy sources, but I wouldn't expect anything near the unsustainable efficiency of what we have today.






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Reply #149 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 5:49pm
 
Amadd wrote on Sep 27th, 2010 at 4:43pm:
I think that everybody understands the concept of supply and demand. And that is the big concern.

Yes I can invisage a time, maybe in the not too distant future, where fossil fuels will largely be used by more essential industries such as: agriculture, airlines, military..etc.
But what does that mean for the rest of us? I can only see that it means rising prices for a lot of the essentials and non-essentials that we take for granted.
In real terms (the buying power of our dollar), our wages must drop.
Whether that is achieved by wage squeeze, taxes, inflation, or a combination of all, the result will be the same.

And yes I agree that there will a huge demand for alternate sources of energy. What you're not factoring in is that our entire infrastucture is reliant on the abundance and efficiency of oil. Even a very smooth transition away from this reliance will be very costly.
Also, the end result where the masses aren't so reliant on fossil fuels may not be so rosy for a long while to come.
The demand will definitely be there for technology to make some leaps and bounds in renewable energy sources, but I wouldn't expect anything near the unsustainable efficiency of what we have today.







See, that's the thing. It's not reliant on the abundance of oil but the scarcity of oil.
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