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American Article on Australia's Handling of GFC
Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:45pm
 
This article was written and published at a site I contribute to.


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Recently, the Australian government published its economic statistics for the first quarter of 2010.  Many feared that Australia would join other developed nations by showing two quarters of negative growth - the main indicator of a recession.  But it didn’t.

Australia’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) grew by .5% last quarter.  Granted, this wasn’t a stellar performance, and it certainly doesn’t mean that they’re out of the economic woods.  However, it does show that Australia must be doing something right.

That “something” appears to be a continuing robust economic stimulus program that focuses on investing in infrastructure.  This stimulus package was initially spearheaded by Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in 2008. 

It is important to note that another major factor for Australia’s ability to maintain economic growth is the existence of its massive mineral resources.  Mining makes up 5.6% of its GDP (compared with 1.6% in the United States), and it accounts for 35% of its exports, mostly to Asia.  As The Wall Street Journal pointed out last week:

“NO doubt the Rudd government's big budget stimulus helped keep Australia out of recession last year. But mining was at least as important in producing the unexpectedly good performance.”

However, it has been the continuing investment in infrastructure that has kept Australia’s people employed and has kept them from seeing the negative GDP growth experienced by many of its trading partners.  Australia’s unemployment rate currently stands at 5.2% compared with 9.7% in the United States.  Much of its employment strength lies in the jobs created and maintained by Australia’s ceaseless quest for new and improved schools, roads, bridges, railways, water and waste systems, etc.

Prime Minister Rudd took a strong stand on infrastructure investment early on, and he has ignored the concerns of the deficit hawks ever since.  In December of 2008 he said:

“..the benefits of the Federal Government's infrastructure spending on roads, rail and education outweigh any concerns about Australia slipping into a budget deficit.

When the history of this government is eventually written, whenever that might be, we want it to be known as a government of nation building.."

Unlike many other developed countries, Australia continues to hold infrastructure spending as being a top priority.  Much has been written lately about the US’s recent emphasis on deficit reduction as opposed to expanded stimulus spending.  Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman points this out succinctly in his New York Times op-ed article entitled “Lost Decade – Here We Come.”  His concern is that the deficit hawks may force us into a decade of stagnation, similar to that which occurred in Japan in the ‘90s.

Other major world economies are also feeling the deficit pinch.  As Andrew Leonard points out today in Salon, the United Kingdom appears to be taking “the wrong medicine” by changing their main economic strategy to deficit reduction rather than Keynesian stimulus.

The need for infrastructure investment in the United States goes beyond just the immediate economic benefits.  As Bob Herbert pointed out in a series of op-ed articles in The New York Times (see here, here and here) our infrastructure “must” be improved:

“Ignoring these problems imperils public safety, diminishes our economic competitiveness, is penny-wise and pound-foolish, and results in tremendous missed opportunities to create new jobs on a vast scale.

Competitors are leaving us behind when it comes to infrastructure investment. China is building a network of 42 high-speed rail lines, while the U.S. has yet to build its first. Other nations are well ahead of us in the deployment of broadband service and green energy technology. We spend scandalous amounts of time sitting in traffic jams or enduring the endless horrors of airline travel. Low-cost, high-speed Internet access is a science-fiction fantasy in many parts of the United States.”

Australia is blessed with having a wealth of commodities that has allowed it to become Asia’s mineral warehouse.  But it also has the economic leadership needed to set a strong course of fiscal stimulus during hard economic times.

Let’s hope that global leaders begin to focus on the positive steps taken by Australia to both stabilize its economy and to improve its internal living conditions through infrastructure investment.  It remains to be seen whether the economic weaknesses in its trading partners may ultimately pull it down, but based on the successes it has had to date, there can be no doubt that Australia’s stimulus program has provided a major long-term benefit to all of its citizens.



http://open.salon.com/blog/steven_rockford/2010/06/15/the_australian_economic_st...
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Reply #1 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:58pm
 


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.........It is important to note that another major factor for Australia’s ability to maintain economic growth is the existence of its massive mineral resources. 
Mining makes up 5.6% of its GDP (compared with 1.6% in the United States), and it accounts for 35% of its exports, mostly to Asia. ......


the same mining rudd has stopped in its tracks ??

rudd inherited a very sound machine. he's now buggered it
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Reply #2 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:27pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:58pm:
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.........It is important to note that another major factor for Australia’s ability to maintain economic growth is the existence of its massive mineral resources.  
Mining makes up 5.6% of its GDP (compared with 1.6% in the United States), and it accounts for 35% of its exports, mostly to Asia. ......


the same mining rudd has stopped in its tracks ??

rudd inherited a very sound machine. he's now buggered it


Care to put up exactly what mining has been stopped in it's tracks.
Not the threats from our benevolent mining magnates but actual mines or contracts torn up because of Rudd PROPOSAL, notice PROPOSAL not LEGISLATION it's not even in front of the senate yet.
I had someone tell me the mining companies build & fund hospitals & schools yesterday & these would have to close.
The shrill voices of opposition & people to stupid to think for themselves & believe what they read in the Murdoch press are becoming a joke.
Rudd should stand his ground on this, yes he went about it the wrong way but now he has to stand firm & tell our poor billionaires they are welcome to hand in their contracts & go elsewhere because others would be lining up to mine our resources & pay the tax.
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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:34pm
 
But it also has the economic leadership needed to set a strong course of fiscal stimulus during hard economic times.

Let’s hope that global leaders begin to focus on the positive steps taken by Australia to both stabilize its economy and to improve its internal living conditions through infrastructure investment.  It remains to be seen whether the economic weaknesses in its trading partners may ultimately pull it down, but based on the successes it has had to date, there can be no doubt that Australia’s stimulus program has provided a major long-term benefit to all of its citizens.

Overall a positive article for Rudd & Swans actions over the past 3 years
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Reply #4 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 7:52am
 
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rudd inherited a very sound machine. he's now buggered it


That's not true at all Sprint, and you know it.
The economy was in dire straits by the end of the liberal government.

I shudder to think what measures the libs would've taken in an attempt to arrest the fears and circumstances of the nation. Something along the lines of "Work even harder and work even longer" maybe?

The stimulus program may have seemed a bit hair-brained, I thought so, but I also knew a lot of people who who doing it hard and they really looked forward to that bit of extra cash outside of their extremely tight budget. And most of them spent it. They spent it on a bit of luxury where there was none on the horizon.
So it did very well for the psyche of the working nation in that they were able to keep spending in rough times.
At the height of the recession, I heard it questioned many times, "Why am I still having trouble getting a car park at shopping centres?"

I remember a southpark episode where exactly the same mindset was the theme of the show. Too bad Matt Stone and Trey Parker are only cartoon creators and not economic policy makers.





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Reply #5 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 1:40pm
 
Indeed, some form of Govt stimulus was an essential circuit-breaker as the first of many GFC crises unfolded - and the Australian Govt's response was appropriate overall.  However, I remain concerned that the American knee-jerk response was inherently ill-conceived and risky - and that it has simply delayed the inevitable mega-crash which is yet to come...

Notwithstanding that a GFC was predictable, in the context of unprecedented polarisation of income, wealth, opportunity, power - and debt...from the early days of the GFC, it was clear that: the severely under-regulated banking and finance parasites, who had made squillions in ill-gotten gains in the previous decade or so, were being propped up at the expense of their victims...

The toxic debt, that was underwritten by the US Govt and Federal Reserve, had been largely written under unfair contracts in the first instance - and repeatedly onsold under similarly dubious contracts, with successive parasites siphoning-off a cut of the artificially-inflated securities at every stage...

IM(not-so)HO, the US (and other Govts) lacked the necessary courage, to place the onus on the beneficial holders of these toxic loans to PROVE that good faith and due diligence had been exercised at every step of the way - and therefore that each and every one of the original loans were fair in the first instance.  If the holder/s could not prove the legitimacy of their claim to enforce the original loan on the borrower, then the loan should have been written off, with the ownership of the associated asset automatically transferred to the borrower.

I know that the problems are complex and therefore that this approach would have created considerable turmoil - but the insult to the global community would have been once-off and the costs and risks to Govts (and their innocent citizens) would not have continued to compound over time.  As things stand today, Govts have become severely indebted, to prop up unscrululous boards, executives and corporations while punishing their victims twofold - with the risks ongoing and even escalating.  

Meantime, with the subsequent market bounce-back, their board members, executives and shareholders have been given an extended period of time to manipulate and/or ride the waves of market highs and lows so as to stealthfully liquidate (and, probably in many cases, offshore) their Govt-preserved assets at the expense of unwitting small-medium-time investors who have been lulled into a false sense of security and may yet loose everything...

The underlying systemic problems, of under-regulation and polarisation, have not been solved - and there has been no attempt to restore a semblance of progressivity into the tax systems that facilitated the exponential polarisation of income, wealth, opportunity, power and debt that predictably precipitated the GFC - rather there is ongoing talk of oxymoronic 'austerity measures' that will simply be a self-escalating injection into the downward spiral...

When the mega crash does come, it will hit in record time - is likely that us Aussies will wake to the news that: overnight, all stockmarkets have been placed in an indefinite trading halt and that all banking and financial institutions have stopped processing all financial transactions and shut their doors pending Govt intervention...

I, for one, will not be surprised if this occurs in the near future - what do others think?



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Reply #6 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 1:52pm
 

the problem was overregulatiion, not under regulation.

fannie may and freddie mac were govt run institutions that led on uneconomic principles.

it was idiotic to bail out companies in trouble - on that i entirely agree.
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Reply #7 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 2:34pm
 
The stimulus did nothing apart from putting the country further into debt, and paying extra money mainly to low earners so they could feed the pokey machines. (and whatever else they did with it)  

The good financial performance of Australia had more to do with Beijing  than Canberra. As usual, the Americans are blissfully ignorant of the true situation.

No public companies or banks should be bailed out - ever. They should have been given the same priority as Iceland.

The financial institutions should have had more of an ouch factor. The GFC wasn't really so bad from their viewpoint. If a few of them had been allowed to fail then it would have been etched into the subconscious of economists everywhere that this must not be allowed to happen again.

As it was, nobody learned any lessons, except that  some financial institutions are indestructable because regardless of what stupid policies they pursue, governments will bail them out with public funds.
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Reply #8 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 3:23pm
 

i'ld pretty much agree with that muso.

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Reply #9 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 3:29pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 18th, 2010 at 1:52pm:
the problem was overregulatiion, not under regulation.

fannie may and freddie mac were govt run institutions that led on uneconomic principles.

it was idiotic to bail out companies in trouble - on that i entirely agree.




I dispute your bizarre assertion re under-regulation - but at least there are some things on which we can apparently agree.

Notwithstanding the charter dictated to Fannie and Freddie, their boards and executives had NO LEGITIMATE EXCUSE for: -

* Neglecting to push back on said charter;

* Deliberately participating in the incestuous proliferation of unethical 'exploding arm' and like mortgages; and

* Actively selling, writing and on-selling inherently unfair (even fraudulent) loan contracts made with patently vulnerable and disadvantaged clients.

That said, the risks were real and obvious - and therefore there was NO EXCUSE for the incestuous US and Federal Reserve Administration to actively promote and facilitate the inevitable catastropic downward spiral!

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Reply #10 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 3:42pm
 
muso wrote on Jun 18th, 2010 at 2:34pm:
The stimulus did nothing apart from putting the country further into debt, and paying extra money mainly to low earners so they could feed the pokey machines. (and whatever else they did with it)  

The good financial performance of Australia had more to do with Beijing  than Canberra. As usual, the Americans are blissfully ignorant of the true situation.

No public companies or banks should be bailed out - ever. They should have been given the same priority as Iceland.

The financial institutions should have had more of an ouch factor. The GFC wasn't really so bad from their viewpoint. If a few of them had been allowed to fail then it would have been etched into the subconscious of economists everywhere that this must not be allowed to happen again.

As it was, nobody learned any lessons, except that  some financial institutions are indestructable because regardless of what stupid policies they pursue, governments will bail them out with public funds.




I agree that the necessary lessons have not been learnt, however, it is ludicrous to suggest that the stimulus payments (to families/households of low-modest means) were wasted into an economic black hole...

The simple fact is, that: monies injected into the economy, via the hands of low-middle income households, bounces around and up - and with positive multiplier effects.

Hence, my concern about the risks of Conservative-style 'austerity measures' which (instead of clawing-back and re-distributing the ill-gotten gains of the privileged parasitic few) rob from the majority at the bottom who will no longer consume to keep the whole inter-dependent system churning...
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Reply #11 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 8:44pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:58pm:
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.........It is important to note that another major factor for Australia’s ability to maintain economic growth is the existence of its massive mineral resources. 
Mining makes up 5.6% of its GDP (compared with 1.6% in the United States), and it accounts for 35% of its exports, mostly to Asia. ......


the same mining rudd has stopped in its tracks ??

rudd inherited a very sound machine. he's now buggered it

You ever heard of Colin Barnett?

Obviously not!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Wink
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Reply #12 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 8:48pm
 
muso wrote on Jun 18th, 2010 at 2:34pm:
The stimulus did nothing apart from putting the country further into debt, and paying extra money mainly to low earners so they could feed the pokey machines. (and whatever else they did with it) 

The good financial performance of Australia had more to do with Beijing  than Canberra. As usual, the Americans are blissfully ignorant of the true situation.

No public companies or banks should be bailed out - ever. They should have been given the same priority as Iceland.

The financial institutions should have had more of an ouch factor. The GFC wasn't really so bad from their viewpoint. If a few of them had been allowed to fail then it would have been etched into the subconscious of economists everywhere that this must not be allowed to happen again.

As it was, nobody learned any lessons, except that  some financial institutions are indestructable because regardless of what stupid policies they pursue, governments will bail them out with public funds.

Nice disclaimer!

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