Amadd wrote on May 5
th, 2010 at 5:45pm:
Put it this way:
If you had a litter of puppies, you could be relatively certain that they would grow to be dogs.
That is a physical generalization based on species, not an individual psychological observation. Irrelevant.
Edited: If you took one aside and beat it constantly, you could be relatively certain that it would not grow to have the same nature as the rest of the litter.
Only a human would and could engage in such an endeavour, but yes, I follow.
Edited: Most probably, it would grow to be either more timid or more aggressive than the rest.
These over-simple evaluations are not relevant. Only the individual human can assess the reasons behind his psychological state IF he has fully embraced the Forbidden Truth AND his True Reality. No external human could make the assessment and judgment for him with any accuracy and legitimacy.
Edited: However, without any environmental conditioning, you might also notice certain characteristics within one or more of the puppies. One may be more aggressive, one more timid,
These are natural behavioural tendencies, and there are environmental factors also involved here. There is nothing wrong with these tendencies, aggression etc.
Edited: or one of them might even show very unusual characteristics which is an innate problem or aberration
It may be possible that a human being has a much greater than usual genetic defect. However, he cannot be held responsible for that defect or any actions it causes him to undertake, and if it does NOT cause him to undertake the actions, then sociological factors remain.
Quote: that will not be solved by social conditioning.
Wrong. There is no Truth-based legitimacy to your insane idea that certain behaviours and traits (such as aggression listed above) needs to be "solved".
That is utterly ridiculous, and society has no Truth-based legitimacy, let alone any moral integrity or claim to non-derangement, to be inventing any standards that require "solutions" to bring them about.
Edited: It may be controlled somewhat, but not solved with current methods as far as I can tell.
See above.
Quote:In the case of serial killers, it's probably pretty well known that they lack remorse for their actions.
Remorse in this case is an un-natural and artificial lie-based construct that has no Truth-based legitimacy.
You blindly presume that society automatically is correct in claiming one should have remorse for crime actions. Your argument is non-sequitur. For example, a tiger has no remorse for a kill. An elephant kept and abused in a circus went beserk one day and attacked humans. Although that behaviour is unnatural in the sense that it does not happen in the wild, it is natural to react that way for some animals under these conditions.
Exactly WHY should the SK have remorse when society created him, abused him, and shows no remorse toward him? Of course he should have no remorse.
Quote:Giving them a God to believe in won't change their behavior insofar as it will only be a matter of time before (their) God gives them instructions to go out and kill.
That would make it worse, because religion is lie-based and toxic. However, there is no legitimacy to your unwritten presumption that anyone should refrain from doing as their True Reality dictates.
You never prove it, nor do you give a reason. The positive claim is yours, so you need something to back it up.
Quote:That's not to say that social conditioning does not bring about similar behavior, you only need to look at the muzzies to see what can be achieved by brainwashing to suit a particular aim.
Does not matter. And beside "muzzies"as you call them are not as brainwashed as christians and westerners, despite popular belief.
Quote:But yes I agree that we are all brainwashed to accept our society's boundaries. There's nothing new there.
Maybe for you. However, the exact nature, precise brainwashing programmes, societal effects and consequences are usually unrealized, incorrectly analyzed or dismissed. Sometimes a "social critque" will mearly scratch the surface, and this again does not constitute a Forbidden Truth.
Quote:What is the truth that you possess that will set us all free? A perpetual mystery? Anybody can state glaringly obvious problems, not many can provide rational solutions.
The key here is to realize that human society cannot be saved. That it is YOU who should free yourself, for your own benefit. You should have no desire or interest in saving society.
The Forbidden Truth is the ONLY way to Mental Freedom and Personal Untouchability.
Seer Travis.
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