Australian Politics Forum - The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz...

Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Apr 25^th, 2010 at 10:47am So... just how much of the atmosphere is CO2? 0.037% give or take? How many parts per hundred thousand is that again?
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #1 - Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:11am Grendel wrote on Apr 25^th, 2010 at 10:47am: So... just how much of the atmosphere is CO2? 0.037% give or take? How many parts per hundred thousand is that again? 389 ppm current seasonally adjusted value. (391 without seasonal adjustment)
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #2 - Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:22am Good grief... did you count them all personally too? So will you agree there is a small variation of say 37-39 parts per 100,000? I know it doesn't sound as bad as hundreds of parts per...
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #3 - Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:28am Here: http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ Check it any time you like. Are you bringing up something new here?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #4 - Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:35am What is wrong with you? Cant you answer a simple question? Are you incapable of civil conversation? If you are agreeing with me just admit it. Seems to me... Quote: 0.037% give or take? was correct.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #5 - Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:43am Reminds me of a young nephew. Pick a card - any card. yawn.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #6 - Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:47am ok... So you are so immature... you are incapable... Someone should tell you to GROW UP then eh.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #7 - Apr 26^th, 2010 at 3:19pm Let's forget that this figure will vary and say it is 38 parts per 100,000... Then what portion of that 38 is actually man made emissions?
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Reply #8 - Apr 26^th, 2010 at 4:01pm

You do not need to go through the whole twenty questions charade to make a point grendel.
If you wish to say that you believe the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, is absolutely tiny by comparison to other elements, and therefore worrying about it's effects is wrong, then just do so.

The obvious reply is that climatologists vehemently disagree with that argument, and point to the numerous studies that quantify the effects they are seeing, and attributing to the relatively high levels of CO2.
Then you would need to point to studies showing where they are wrong.

Guess what, that is where we are at, and that is where we have been at for the last twenty years, waiting for a study to show them wrong, but none has been done, so we just get the same unsupported argument on an endless, and meaningless loop.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #9 - Apr 26^th, 2010 at 7:03pm Oh yes I do Mozz... Go away and ass-u-me elsewhere eh.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #10 - Apr 26^th, 2010 at 10:19pm I keep reading that man made CO2 emissions make up 3.2% approx of total CO2 in the atmosphere. That would make us "guilty" of creating approx 1 part in 100,000. Any advances on that?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #11 - Apr 27^th, 2010 at 11:59am No? Good... then we still must be in agreement. The atmosphere contains 38 parts CO2 per 100,000 parts and only 1 part of that is made by us. That is... 1 part in every 100,000 parts.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #12 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 1:26pm Grendel wrote on Apr 26^th, 2010 at 10:19pm: I keep reading that man made CO2 emissions make up 3.2% approx of total CO2 in the atmosphere. That would make us "guilty" of creating approx 1 part in 100,000. Any advances on that? Incorrect.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The atmosphere, warming, and all that jazz... Reply #13 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 3:42pm Feel free to correct
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Reply #14 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 4:15pm

Grendel wrote on Apr 28^th, 2010 at 3:42pm:

Feel free to correct

What? ........and spoon feed you?

Just read Heaven and Earth. It will make you feel good. It really will.
On your dying day, be sure to have it with you and get somebody to read an excerpt from it as you take your last breaths. It might give you absolution.

I'll concentrate on people who are prepared to listen

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