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Reply #32 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 8:05am
 
Wow, Helian sure does love black people. Grin
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"General, these are American regulars. In a hundred and fifty years they have never been beaten. They will hold."&&-- Col. Preston Brown, C/S, 2nd Division, the Marne, June 1, 1918
 
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Reply #33 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:27am
 
Just as the founding fathers observed - that slavery was the new nation's original sin.

An evil from which the great society has yet to complete its exorcism. A sin for which the great society has yet to fully atone.
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Reply #34 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:40am
 
Nearly every civilization in human history has had slavery.  You just worship weakness and think its somehow wrong to use power.

The evil of slavery was not the keeping of men in bondage, which is quite acceptable, but of introducing the negro race to this nation.  And as our Founding Fathers observed, especially anti-slavery slave-owner Thomas Jefferson, a nation cannot function with two races, both free.

All of this would be lost on you, a deracinated self-flagellating white who thinks the highest good is transferring the resources and power of your own race to other ones.  Pathetic.
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Reply #36 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:57am
 
Coral Sea wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:40am:
Nearly every civilization in human history has had slavery.  You just worship weakness and think its somehow wrong to use power.

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Nothing to do then with the founding fathers' commitment to liberty and the rights of man, then?

Coral Sea wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:40am:
The evil of slavery was not the keeping of men in bondage, which is quite acceptable, but of introducing the negro race to this nation.  And as our Founding Fathers observed, especially anti-slavery slave-owner Thomas Jefferson, a nation cannot function with two races, both free.

All of this would be lost on you, a deracinated self-flagellating white who thinks the highest good is transferring the resources and power of your own race to other ones.  Pathetic.

Roll Eyes

Nothing to do with the likely collapse of south's economy with the abolition of slavery, then... The effect of which probably could be likened in today's terms with the closing down of the IT industry in the US.

Coral Sea wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:40am:
All of this would be lost on you, a deracinated self-flagellating white who thinks the highest good is transferring the resources and power of your own race to other ones.  Pathetic.

Roll Eyes
That'd be sharing of resources and power...

That'd be lost on you, you twisted old bugger.   Pathetic.
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Reply #37 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 12:56pm
 
Good posts, Imperium. I'm impressed. America has favoured this private model. It seems to me that this has been their undoing.

Why not just set up a universal system - like Australia's Medibank/care? After all, it would probably, in the end, be cheaper.

The reason is the health campaign funds that goes to politicians of both colours (sorry, old boy - red and blue, not black and white). The argument about socialised medicine has been sustained by the insurance and pharmaceutical bribes. The health insurance companies have been in the driver's seat for way too long in US health policy.

If Clinton and Obama couldn't change things, when will it ever happen? Perhaps it will take a Republican to get this done - like Nixon going to China.
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Reply #38 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 1:13pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 12:56pm:
If Clinton and Obama couldn't change things, when will it ever happen? Perhaps it will take a Republican to get this done - like Nixon going to China.

The tragic irony is that Nixon did want to reform the health system. He and Ted Kennedy were working on it when Nixon's administration was embroiled and then destroyed by Watergate.
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Reply #39 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 3:44pm
 
Nixon? Gee. The guy who wrote off to Dilantin to get his pills rather than see his GP.

And got them!

I can't imagine the sort of system he'd have come up with.
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Reply #40 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 10:28pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:57am:
Roll Eyes
Nothing to do then with the founding fathers' commitment to liberty and the rights of man, then?

I have little interest in Enlightenment table talk.  "Rights" are a social construction with no inherent metaphysical significance, and the framers were committed to restricting liberty to the white population of this country.  We're well past a white nation now which most of us have adjusted to, but for some baffling reason some people just want to surrender more and more of what we have left.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:57am:
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Nothing to do with the likely collapse of south's economy with the abolition of slavery, then... The effect of which probably could be likened in today's terms with the closing down of the IT industry in the US.

What is this in response to?  At any rate the South adjusted by switching to sharecropping, only to suffer another crisis when cotton exhausted the soil in the 1890s.  The closing down of the IT industry here is just part of the broader trend of deindustrialization that impoverishes many in the West now.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:57am:
Roll Eyes
That'd be sharing of resources and power...

That'd be lost on you, you twisted old bugger.   Pathetic.

Sharing results in a loss of resources precisely because they are split.  There is no reason to share resources with a hostile but weak group.
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Reply #41 - Mar 27th, 2010 at 5:54pm
 
On the topic, Coral Sea, how do you feel about Obama, a man who - by the natural order of things - should be picking tobacco, but has instead been placed on the throne?

It must make you wonder about Amerika - we'd never do that here!
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Reply #42 - Mar 28th, 2010 at 6:35am
 
Hlysnan wrote on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 5:52pm:
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."

If I were an American, the passing of this bill is something that I would be crying over.


I am an American, and we are doing much more than crying. All maxists liberals must become dictators because they are living the lie that they can give away an infinite amount of other people's money.  As soon as they run out of other people's money, dissent begins, and the liberal's lie is exposed.

Then, the liberal maxist must become a dictator to conceal his lies and suppress dissent. President Obama is already on this path.  The American people will throw the dangerous bum out.  

One year ago, Obama had been President for only 2 months, and already Americans were in the streets demonstrating against Obama.  We know him for the pathological liar that he is, and for the dictator that he wants to be.

Watch for the USA to erupt in civil disobedience that makes the 1960's civil rights demonstrations look like child's play. Obama is a thug and fraud, and he will be gone.
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Reply #43 - Mar 28th, 2010 at 6:45am
 
What is it with Americans and their obsession with Marxism? That and their congenital and eternal insecurity about the stability of the nation.

Roosevelt (FDR) was accused of being a socialist, a Marxist, a dictator and even a National Socialist... He became one of America's greatest Presidents and the American people honoured him by electing him President four times. The only American President to be so elected.
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