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Reply #90 - May 23rd, 2013 at 1:33pm
 
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"Why I disagree with Herbert's opinion on this".

Thanks in advance.


I disagreed in advance, it saved time.
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Re: Drug war is lost
Reply #91 - May 23rd, 2013 at 1:39pm
 
Grey wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 1:33pm:
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"Why I disagree with Herbert's opinion on this".

Thanks in advance.


I disagreed in advance, it saved time.


I can't fault you there. They do say that ... "Ignorance is bliss"Tongue

(and wot's with emma? Is she on the rags again? That time of month?)
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Reply #92 - May 23rd, 2013 at 4:25pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 1:39pm:
Grey wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 1:33pm:
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"Why I disagree with Herbert's opinion on this".

Thanks in advance.


I disagreed in advance, it saved time.


I can't fault you there. They do say that ... "Ignorance is bliss"Tongue

(and wot's with emma? Is she on the rags again? That time of month?)


You'll be up on a sexism charge for that comment Herbert.

Emma and I have previously argued about the legalisation of pot. I'm against it for many reasons - Emma isn't for other reasons.

Your post stating that it should be sold as a retail commodity alongside grog is a bit confusing in the fact that you denigrated its effects in one sentence and then suggested it be legalised in the next.
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Reply #93 - May 23rd, 2013 at 4:56pm
 
mantra wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 4:25pm:
You'll be up on a sexism charge for that comment Herbert.


Quite right. My apologies.

mantra wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 4:25pm:
Emma and I have previously argued about the legalisation of pot. I'm against it for many reasons - Emma isn't for other reasons.


Perhaps somewhere between the both of you there's a compromise position that you could both agree to, even if a little begrudgingly?

mantra wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 4:25pm:
Your post stating that it should be sold as a retail commodity alongside grog is a bit confusing in the fact that you denigrated its effects in one sentence and then suggested it be legalised in the next.


I'm still a work in progress. I experiment with different ideas ~ some of them conflicting ~ and see where it takes me. A lot of my 'racist' commentary is also in the nature of being experimental probing to see how the cards fall.

It's a way of exploring oneself. Self-realisation, etc. It's just a technique for sorting out where one really stands on any one issue.

Ideally marijuana should not be indulged in, but in reality it's always going to be available because of the very fact that it grows like a weed. It's prolific and doesn't need tending in the backyard.

I worked casual work with a fellow who took a day off every fortnight or so. In that one day a fortnight he made more money than the two weeks wages. He had two children to feed.

I've heard it said many times that marijuana is nowhere near as addictive as cigarettes.

My boss used to have a 'joint' with his coffee every morning before coming to work.

I personally have never smoked marijuana.

Ask the police who gives them the most trouble throughout the year ~ marijuana smokers or those with a gut-full of grog.

My main objection to marijuana is its availability to youths who are going through school, TAFE, and uni. Marijuana is known to sap motivation something cruel.

Every parents nightmare. A son or daughter who is a good student and a lively teenager suddenly becomes dull-eyed and unresponsive to stimuli. They seem permanently 'chilled-out' in a fog of indifference to everything that's going on around them.


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Reply #94 - May 23rd, 2013 at 5:18pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
mantra wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 4:25pm:
You'll be up on a sexism charge for that comment Herbert.


Quite right. My apologies.


I wasn't being serious.

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I'm still a work in progress. I experiment with different ideas ~ some of them conflicting ~ and see where it takes me. A lot of my 'racist' commentary is also in the nature of being experimental probing to see how the cards fall.

It's a way of exploring oneself. Self-realisation, etc. It's just a technique for sorting out where one really stands on any one issue.


Sounds promising. Perhaps you might eventually come to love our Muslim and black brothers?

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Ideally marijuana should not be indulged in, but in reality it's always going to be available because of the very fact it grows like a weed. It's prolific and and doesn't need tending.

I worked casual work with a fellow who took a day off every fortnight or so. In that one day a fortnight he made more money than the two weeks wages. He had two children to feed.

I've heard it said many times that marijuana is nowhere near as addictive as cigarettes.

My boss used to have a 'joint' with his coffee every morning before coming to work.

I personally have never smoked marijuana.

Ask the police who gives them the most trouble throughout the year ~ marijuana smokers or those with a gut-full of grog.

My main objection to marijuana is its availability to youths who are going through school, TAFE, and uni. Marijuana is known to sap motivation something cruel.

Every parents nightmare. A son or daughter who is a good student and a lively teenager suddenly becomes dull-eyed and unresponsive to stimuli. They seem permanently 'chilled-out' in a fog of indifference to everything that's going on around them.


It's harder to disguise alcohol inebriation than it is to hide marijuana intoxication - youth excluded, and if legalised it would be too easy for half the population to be stoned on the job. All they'd have to do is pop into their local bottle-o and purchase a packet of joints. We would be at the mercy of tradesmen, health workers, cab drivers etc. Obviously we still are to a certain extent - but if they want to indulge in weed - let them do it the hard way. It lowers the odds of the general public becoming their victims.

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Reply #95 - May 23rd, 2013 at 8:11pm
 
Mantra your argument that 'we'll all be at the mercy ..of  stoned worhers etc  bblah blah.. is rubbish.

Most people responsibly indulge... 
never smoke at work  .. for example..

much like most people responsibly indulge in alcohol.  So ... half the pop .. on your logic.. is going to be pissed at work,  and the other half ,   stoned...???  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Nonsensical my friend... 
.. of course there are people who aren't responsible.... 

what are you going to do...??? 

alkies and druggies lined up against a wall and shot..?? Responsible people being rounded up to labour on the roads ??

so that is the extreme , more or less suggested by herbie  ...

silly don't you think.. Mantra??   Huh

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Reply #96 - May 23rd, 2013 at 8:14pm
 
I disagreed in advance, it saved time. 
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Wise  man..   Smiley
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Reply #97 - May 23rd, 2013 at 9:01pm
 
mantra wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:18pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
mantra wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 4:25pm:
You'll be up on a sexism charge for that comment Herbert.


Quite right. My apologies.


I wasn't being serious.

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I'm still a work in progress. I experiment with different ideas ~ some of them conflicting ~ and see where it takes me. A lot of my 'racist' commentary is also in the nature of being experimental probing to see how the cards fall.

It's a way of exploring oneself. Self-realisation, etc. It's just a technique for sorting out where one really stands on any one issue.


Sounds promising. Perhaps you might eventually come to love our Muslim and black brothers?

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Ideally marijuana should not be indulged in, but in reality it's always going to be available because of the very fact it grows like a weed. It's prolific and and doesn't need tending.

I worked casual work with a fellow who took a day off every fortnight or so. In that one day a fortnight he made more money than the two weeks wages. He had two children to feed.

I've heard it said many times that marijuana is nowhere near as addictive as cigarettes.

My boss used to have a 'joint' with his coffee every morning before coming to work.

I personally have never smoked marijuana.

Ask the police who gives them the most trouble throughout the year ~ marijuana smokers or those with a gut-full of grog.

My main objection to marijuana is its availability to youths who are going through school, TAFE, and uni. Marijuana is known to sap motivation something cruel.

Every parents nightmare. A son or daughter who is a good student and a lively teenager suddenly becomes dull-eyed and unresponsive to stimuli. They seem permanently 'chilled-out' in a fog of indifference to everything that's going on around them.


It's harder to disguise alcohol inebriation than it is to hide marijuana intoxication - youth excluded, and if legalised it would be too easy for half the population to be stoned on the job. All they'd have to do is pop into their local bottle-o and purchase a packet of joints. We would be at the mercy of tradesmen, health workers, cab drivers etc. Obviously we still are to a certain extent - but if they want to indulge in weed - let them do it the hard way. It lowers the odds of the general public becoming their victims.


My whole answer to you disappeared in a flash when I googled to check something. Gone. Couldn't get back to my 99%-finish post. On the old Debate and Relate forum this didn't happen. It's happened a few times to me here now.

It's late, and I'm tired. And Sooty, Gizmo, and Muffin are waiting for me to go to bed. In fact, Gizmo is conked-out right here next to the keyboard. He couldn't wait.







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Reply #98 - May 23rd, 2013 at 9:03pm
 
Emma wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 8:14pm:
I disagreed in advance, it saved time. 
Grey

Wise  man..   Smiley


Wise-arse..   Tongue
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Reply #99 - May 23rd, 2013 at 9:22pm
 
go to sleep...

yep its a real piss-off  thats for sure.  Happened to me more times than I care to remember...

..one must be most careful whilst one is preparing a post else one loses ones own words to nowhere..
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Reply #100 - May 24th, 2013 at 6:31am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:01pm:
My whole answer to you disappeared in a flash when I googled to check something. Gone. Couldn't get back to my 99%-finish post. On the old Debate and Relate forum this didn't happen. It's happened a few times to me here now.

It's late, and I'm tired. And Sooty, Gizmo, and Muffin are waiting for me to go to bed. In fact, Gizmo is conked-out right here next to the keyboard. He couldn't wait.


Next time you make a lengthy post - copy and paste it onto a word pad or similar before you get distracted or in case there is a glitch when you post it. It's very frustrating when that happens.
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Reply #101 - May 24th, 2013 at 6:40am
 
Emma wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 8:11pm:
Mantra your argument that 'we'll all be at the mercy ..of  stoned worhers etc  bblah blah.. is rubbish.

Most people responsibly indulge... 
never smoke at work  .. for example..

much like most people responsibly indulge in alcohol.  So ... half the pop .. on your logic.. is going to be pissed at work,  and the other half ,   stoned...???  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Nonsensical my friend... 
.. of course there are people who aren't responsible.... 

what are you going to do...??? 


Yes - most people are fairly responsible, but there are some who aren't. My point is that it's harder to disguise the smell of alcohol on someone than it is pot. If we were selling the stuff legally, a lot more people would be indulging and we wouldn't have a clue. It shouldn't ever be made easy to buy.

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alkies and druggies lined up against a wall and shot..?? Responsible people being rounded up to labour on the roads ??

so that is the extreme , more or less suggested by herbie  ...

silly don't you think.. Mantra??   Huh


Hmmm. Not necessarily shot or sentenced to hard labour, although if I was in a cab with a stoned cabbie or had to be injected or operated on by a stoned nurse or doctor - I would probably think along those lines.

If pot was legal - we'd have to enforce mandatory drug testing in the workplace.

At least with alcohol we can smell it on them and are given a choice to decline their services.
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Reply #102 - May 24th, 2013 at 12:37pm
 
Emma wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:22pm:
go to sleep...

yep its a real piss-off  thats for sure.  Happened to me more times than I care to remember...

..one must be most careful whilst one is preparing a post else one loses ones own words to nowhere.. 


It's my own fault for not remembering to SELECT ALL and COPY before I nip over to Google to check a date or whatever.

I'm enjoying your creative writing style, Emma. You're not related to Warrigal are you? You're giving him a bit of competition with your highly original alternative spelling choices.

Good stuff.

Keep it up.  Smiley
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Reply #103 - May 24th, 2013 at 12:43pm
 
mantra wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 6:31am:
Next time you make a lengthy post - copy and paste it onto a word pad or similar before you get distracted or in case there is a glitch when you post it. It's very frustrating when that happens.


I'm planning on starting texting here as an easier option to composing longish posts.

For copying and pasting I use Yankee Clipper 3. Does images as well as text. The icon sits in the system tray.
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Reply #104 - May 24th, 2013 at 12:51pm
 
mantra wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 6:40am:
At least with alcohol we can smell it on them and are given a choice to decline their services.


I've just had open heart surgery from a doctor with a bulbous nose...  Huh

I now realise why whiskey bottles are shaped to be square.

They don't roll around in the desk draw making a tell-tale noise when the doctor reaches in to fetch something during your pre-op interview with him.

One of my fellow patients had to go through the whole op again because the valve was leaking from it not having been sewed (sewn?) tightly enough ...  Shocked
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