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Reply #75 - May 17th, 2013 at 2:05am
 


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Reply #76 - May 20th, 2013 at 12:57pm
 
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Australian Federal Police Commissioner Tony Negus says more than 23 tonnes of drugs worth over $5 billion were seized nationally in 2011-12, up 154 per cent from the year before.

There were also 93,000 drug-related arrests, and a record 809 hidden drug laboratories were discovered.


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Needless to say it's our post-WWII immigrants, mainly from South East Asia, who are the main culprits in organising and facilitating the distribution of this toxic plague that is killing the grand-children of Australians who fought to protect their loved ones.

What should happen to address this problem:

1. The announcement of a 5-year amnesty for all drug-takers, dealers, suppliers, mules, snake-heads, importers and the rest.

They may identify themselves at no risk of judicial penalty.

2. After the expiration of this 5-year moratorium on punishment ~ all importers, distributors and dealers will face a mandatory death sentence to be carried out on contract to Indonesia.

3. At all embarkation points from foreign lands to Australia, passengers must be searched for drugs. Baggage-handling must be under close supervision and CCTV monitoring.

4. Upon arrival in Australia, the same procedure as above must be carried out. And here's the twist: If drugs are found, no judicial action will be taken. Only confiscation and the recording of the person's name.

This is because a great many who return to Australia from South East Asian holidays are unaware they have been made drug mules through the switching of bags and other surreptitious strategies.

5. After this amnesty of 5-years, anyone found to be addicted to hard drugs has a choice: Identify the supplier, or take his place on Death Row in an Indonesian jail. Those people addicted to drugs would no longer be facing criminal charges, but would be required to enter into rehab.

No exceptions. No negotiations. No intervention by sob-sister pro bon leftwing lawyers and church identities.

And there should be special vigilance to make sure 'ethnic minority' offenders don't get any kind of exemption and leniency because of their 'black-ass' credentials as Abos or nignogs from Tuscaloosa, Tallahassee or even from Tuskegee.

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Reply #77 - May 20th, 2013 at 2:25pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on May 20th, 2013 at 12:57pm:
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Australian Federal Police Commissioner Tony Negus says more than 23 tonnes of drugs worth over $5 billion were seized nationally in 2011-12, up 154 per cent from the year before.

There were also 93,000 drug-related arrests, and a record 809 hidden drug laboratories were discovered.


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Needless to say it's our post-WWII immigrants, mainly from South East Asia, who are the main culprits in organising and facilitating the distribution of this toxic plague that is killing the grand-children of Australians who fought to protect their loved ones.

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Needless to say there was nothing remorely connected to ethnicity in your 'source'.
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Reply #78 - May 20th, 2013 at 3:55pm
 
Grey wrote on May 20th, 2013 at 2:25pm:
Needless to say there was nothing remorely connected to ethnicity in your 'source'.


Isn't that the truth though. Mustn't upset the Ethnic Voting Blocs until it becomes absolutely inevitable that the TV cameras will once again capture images of Muslim family-and-friends bursting out of the Criminal Courts screaming and brawling with the media reporters.

We've seen this so many times on our news services here in Sydney.

Muslim bitch mothers of crime families flailing at the media scrum with handbag flying and kicks and punches.

And our pollies STILL meekly and obediently continue the immigration and refugees program that is bringing these sick bastards into Australia by the tens of thousands each year.

I can see another holocaust coming before the end of the century. I just hope it's not us who gets railroaded.

Europe, Scandinavia and Britain are heading the same way. It's almost inevitable.

And I hope it will be our politicians who are in the front carriages.

Have a Nice Day, Mr Grey.

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Reply #79 - May 20th, 2013 at 11:37pm
 
DO stay on topic ..there's a good fella...
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Reply #80 - May 21st, 2013 at 8:08am
 
Emma wrote on May 20th, 2013 at 11:37pm:
DO stay on topic ..there's a good fella...


I thought I was on topic. "Drug war is Lost": Cause and Solution. I think I covered that fairly well.

Needless to say ~ 'The Drug War' has not been lost ... for the very good reason that it has never been started.

Leftwing politics has ensured that the draconian measures necessary to tackle the problem of society being swamped by the illegal drugs trade have never been tried.

Does Singapore have a drug problem? Does Bali? China?

Hmmm ... I wonder why not? Could it be that as they are not signatories to UN Charters banning the death penalty - they have a tool for discouraging the drug trade that western nations do not?

The West has been dominated by soft-Socialism since the end of WWII. The judiciary has become all about leniency, and soft sentencing, and touchy-feely sympathy for the bad potty training that leads to criminality, etc etc.

The No1 public complaint against our courts is lenient sentencing. What the public is rarely made privy to is the stack of prior convictions before a judge or magistrate will finally, and reluctantly, send a proven public menace and anti-social arsehole to jail.

Only one in 200 shipping containers that arrive from known drug exporting countries are checked by our customs personnel ~ once again demonstrating that our government is not serious about the problem.

The world's biggest opium producing country is Afghanistan ... where Western troops are stationed in their tens of thousands ... and yet production has increased for the past 3 years in a row.

The do-gooder Socialists who run Western nation policy from the United Nations headquarters have been more concerned with the local Afghan farmers having an income source through the growing of poppy fields than they've had about the huge numbers of Western youth and young adults whose lives are ruined by heroin addiction.

The 'War on Drugs' has never been tried, and that's because the methods needed to halt the problem are ideologically too severe and 'fascist' for the socialists who dictate much of Western government policy through UN Charters, Agreements, and Protocols.

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The sale of marijuana should be a legal retail commodity just as alcohol is.
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Reply #81 - May 21st, 2013 at 11:02am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 8:08am:
Emma wrote on May 20th, 2013 at 11:37pm:
DO stay on topic ..there's a good fella...


I thought I was on topic. "Drug war is Lost": Cause and Solution. I think I covered that fairly well.

Needless to say ~ 'The Drug War' has not been lost ... for the very good reason that it has never been started.

Leftwing politics has ensured that the draconian measures necessary to tackle the problem of society being swamped by the illegal drugs trade have never been tried.

Does Singapore have a drug problem? Does Bali? China?

Hmmm ... I wonder why not? Could it be that as they are not signatories to UN Charters banning the death penalty - they have a tool for discouraging the drug trade that western nations do not?

The West has been dominated by soft-Socialism since the end of WWII. The judiciary has become all about leniency, and soft sentencing, and touchy-feely sympathy for the bad potty training that leads to criminality, etc etc.

The No1 public complaint against our courts is lenient sentencing. What the public is rarely made privy to is the stack of prior convictions before a judge or magistrate will finally, and reluctantly, send a proven public menace and anti-social arsehole to jail.

Only one in 200 shipping containers that arrive from known drug exporting countries are checked by our customs personnel ~ once again demonstrating that our government is not serious about the problem.

The world's biggest opium producing country is Afghanistan ... where Western troops are stationed in their tens of thousands ... and yet production has increased for the past 3 years in a row.

The do-gooder Socialists who run Western nation policy from the United Nations headquarters have been more concerned with the local Afghan farmers having an income source through the growing of poppy fields than they've had about the huge numbers of Western youth and young adults whose lives are ruined by heroin addiction.

The 'War on Drugs' has never been tried, and that's because the methods needed to halt the problem are ideologically too severe and 'fascist' for the socialists who dictate much of Western government policy through UN Charters, Agreements, and Protocols.

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The sale of marijuana should be a legal retail commodity just as alcohol is.
 


Why not the sale of heroin? It is after all the most toxin free drug of the lot.

Fact is drugs have been available as long as there have been humans to use them. The difference in our time is that so many people want to use them so often. They want to get 'out of it'. Ever wonder what 'it' is they want to get out of?
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Reply #82 - May 21st, 2013 at 1:25pm
 
Grey wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 11:02am:
Why not the sale of heroin? It is after all the most toxin free drug of the lot.


Sometimes I despair ~ I really do.

Have you ever sat next to a heroin addict who is heating a teaspoon of heroin in order to melt it down before injecting it?

Have you ever witnessed drug addicts recovering in a psychiatric ward while they are in a state of suffering from painful withdrawal symptoms?

The only time heroin is good for humans is when it is used as a palliative medicine for people in the final stages of cancer.

As for marijuana, I had bosses and workmates using it as a 'pick-me-up' at the start of stressful work days.

The downside of marijuana is that it saps young minds of the energy and ambition that's needed to push them through tertiary education. They simply don't care any more. 

Grey wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 11:02am:
Fact is drugs have been available as long as there have been humans to use them.


What a cop-out!

If our ancestors took the same fatalistic attitude we would all still be back in the Stone Age clubbing the women and dragging them home to the back of the cave for a bit of horizontal dancing.

Grey wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 11:02am:
The difference in our time is that so many people want to use them so often.


You've jumped a couple of steps here. The difference is that drugs are now so readily available... AND they are being 'pushed' onto the young as never before. During my entire childhood I never ONCE heard the term ... 'drugs' ... 'have a hit' ... 'smack' ... 'horse' ... etc. It simply wasn't anywhere in our environment.

From a standing-start I could right now bring home ANY drug-of-choice within an hour.

Grey wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 11:02am:
They want to get 'out of it'. Ever wonder what 'it' is they want to get out of? 


'Get out of it' ~~ or 'Get a high' ... ?

First it's getting a 'high' at parties, and at rave dances, and open-air rock concerts. The effect soon wears off, but for some of the more depressed and socially insecure ~ they feel they've found the perfect panacea for all their stresses and woes.

Just as with gambling and alcohol, it's only 10% or so who are genetically or psychologically vulnerable to substance abuse and addictive behaviour.
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Reply #83 - May 22nd, 2013 at 12:02am
 
righto then

you seem to be saying, basically,  2 different things... 

One................drug offences should be harshly dealt with...caning,  life in prison, death penalty.. Isn't this the thrust of your whine..??

..presumably you feel the same about the others in your percentile.... gamblers, alcoholics and??  perhaps atheists??  that 10% of the pop...  are only worthy of punishment, imprisonment and/or death.

Then you say

The sale of marijuana should be a legal retail commodity just as alcohol is.

I am confused...  and you are ridiculous. WHAT  ARE   YOU  trying to say.?
 


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Emma wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:02am:
righto then

you seem to be saying, basically,  2 different things... 

One................drug offences should be harshly dealt with...caning,  life in prison, death penalty.. Isn't this the thrust of your whine..??

..presumably you feel the same about the others in your percentile.... gamblers, alcoholics and??  perhaps atheists??  that 10% of the pop...  are only worthy of punishment, imprisonment and/or death.

Then you say

The sale of marijuana should be a legal retail commodity just as alcohol is.

I am confused...  and you are ridiculous. WHAT  ARE   YOU  trying to say.?
 


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You certainly are confused. Being a woman it's your RIGHT to be confused. Men were put on this Earth to give guidance, and mentorship, and a sympathetic shoulder for you highly confused creatures to cry upon.

And so, Emma my dear, let me take your trembling hand and gently lead you out of the fog of your confusion...

1. 5 year moratorium on punishment. No jail for dealers or anyone else.

This 5 year period is to be used by all concerned to get out of the illegal drugs business either as an addict or a purveyor and facilitator. All concerned are to use this time to find alternative employment, income-source, and legal medications for what ails them.

2. End of 5 year Period of Grace: Anyone caught importing, distributing, dealing, and carrying a commercial quantity of an addictive drug ~~ DESPITE being addicted themselves ~~ gets summarily euthanized. No excuses.

3. After the 5 year Period of Grace anyone found to be addicted to a hard drug must undergo compulsory rehab ... and either divulge the name of his/her supplier ~~ or face capital punishment him or herself.

No more kid-gloves. No more sob-sister defence lawyers. No more wailing parents pleading leniency for their offspring. No more option for judges and magistrates to play the role of do-gooder welfare workers.

Countries long since identified as sources of heroin and cocaine to no longer receive any annual Foreign Aid. Colombia, Afghanistan, the countries of South East Asia's 'Golden Triangle' ... etc.

Marijuana to be universally de-criminalised just as alcohol is.



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Reply #85 - May 22nd, 2013 at 2:11pm
 
Most of Australia's cocaine is grown in the blue mountains.
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Reply #86 - May 22nd, 2013 at 8:58pm
 
so herbie...  YOU are the arbiter, the judge and jury, and you KNOW you are right.

You r a fwit. A total egoist who knows whats best for everyone.  Why don't you start your own rehab religion... you could rip off heaps of money from fools who listen to you. Roll Eyes Grin
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Reply #87 - May 22nd, 2013 at 9:08pm
 
Emma wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:58pm:
so herbie...  YOU are the arbiter, the judge and jury, and you KNOW you are right.

You r a fwit. A total egoist who knows whats best for everyone.  Why don't you start your own rehab religion... you could rip off heaps of money from fools who listen to you. Roll Eyes Grin


Thanks for those kind words, Emma.

It was an opinion piece. You know ~ as in: "What do you think might improve the illegal drugs situation?"

But you've made me realise I shouldn't really have an opinion at all unless I'm one of the Ruling Elite. You're quite right of course. I shouldn't assume to know better than our masters ~ especially as they're doing such a fine job with 'The War on Drugs'.

Please accept my apologies.

I am now going to assume the foetal position on the floor with my thumb in my mouth.

Have a nice Evening, Emma.

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Reply #88 - May 22nd, 2013 at 10:54pm
 
GOOD
I find YOUR opinion/solution excrement.
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Reply #89 - May 23rd, 2013 at 7:08am
 
Emma wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 10:54pm:
GOOD
I find YOUR opinion/solution excrement.


Which part of it don't you agree with? Or shouldn't I ask? I don't want to stretch your intellectual resources beyond a couple of sentences from you. I want to remain sensitive to your limitations.

But have a try anyway.

"Why I disagree with Herbert's opinion on this".

Think of it as a school assignment.

Here we go. Just a coupe of sentences:

Sentence No 1 ....


Sentence No 2 ....


Thanks in advance.
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