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Reply #60 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 4:20am
 
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Drug use is caused by poverty.
We treat the symptom & not the cause.


I agree that poverty may be a contributing factor, however, I think it far more likely that the state of "being" is a far more contributing factor.

In the "old days" there was a certain respect for a state of "being" through God and religion.

Religion has lost it's way and now thinks itself as God via capitalism.
Capitalism, of course, takes no prisoners and has no mercy..it is hardly God-like. It is the anti-Jesus.

It is a fact that answers are more often realized within the "state of being" rather than the state of "being without". If drugs are a part of it, then who are we to judge?




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Reply #61 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 10:13am
 
Amadd wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 4:20am:
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Drug use is caused by poverty.
We treat the symptom & not the cause.


I agree that poverty may be a contributing factor, however, I think it far more likely that the state of "being" is a far more contributing factor.

In the "old days" there was a certain respect for a state of "being" through God and religion.

Religion has lost it's way and now thinks itself as God via capitalism.
Capitalism, of course, takes no prisoners and has no mercy..it is hardly God-like. It is the anti-Jesus.

It is a fact that answers are more often realized within the "state of being" rather than the state of "being without". If drugs are a part of it, then who are we to judge?
And what dictates the 'state of being'? In a majority of cases it is the person socioeconomic position.

I think you will find religion pushes more acceptance of the state of being, you know 'don't worry that millions of people including your loved ones are starving to death because jesus loves you'.
This is a temporary solution by the ruling class to subdue the slaves but as you can see it was not going to last long. The animal mind through adaption will seek to overcome the environmental factors which inhibit it from living life freely.

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Reply #62 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 11:09pm
 
[quote author=17282B2E332E24262B173237372233470 link=1269226484/61#61 date=1344212011]I think you will find religion pushes more acceptance of the state of being, you know 'don't worry that millions of people including your loved ones are starving to death because jesus loves you'.
This is a temporary solution by the ruling class to subdue the slaves but as you can see it was not going to last long.
The animal mind through adaption will seek to overcome the environmental factors which inhibit it from living life freely.[/
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Oh well said Saul.!!

Like it or not.  Smiley Of course we may well end up back in the dark ages, but hey, it may be the price our descendants pay for our greed and consumerism.

DESERVED.!! Smiley But not by them, surely. Aren't WE responsible for the absolutely abysmal state of the world, our home?

Religion should  only be an aid to well-being. Surely.!  Yet what do we see everyday,...on News.?? War Hatred Chaos.
I think its only now, in the 21st century, that greed (ie Capitalism) is finally approaching/surpassing the power of superstition over people.

Money is now the dominant goal, not the grace of your God.!!



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Reply #63 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 11:14pm
 
ERRR and  to my point,  which somehow I failed to add.??

The Drug War is Lost, because there are huge tax-free dollars to be made,
..usually, but not always, taken from those least able to bear the cost. And often financing terrorism and criminal activity.

I look at what we do in our society to our young, primarily, and wonder what we think the end result will be.  Sad

How stupid ARE we.???? Sad

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Reply #64 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:31pm
 
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And what dictates the 'state of being'? In a majority of cases it is the person socioeconomic position.

I think you will find religion pushes more acceptance of the state of being, you know 'don't worry that millions of people including your loved ones are starving to death because jesus loves you'.
This is a temporary solution by the ruling class to subdue the slaves but as you can see it was not going to last long. The animal mind through adaption will seek to overcome the environmental factors which inhibit it from living life freely.


Yes a good point, and also a good point by Jalane that money is the overriding factor.

Control is probably just proportional to the size of the herd.
We all cry about it. Stop this, stop that..and in the end, we may as well have conveyor belts to take us to the next point of our existence.
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Reply #65 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 9:22am
 
Damn these conveyor belts. I prefer taking jet skis or roller blades to the next part of my existence.  They are more fun and I get to drive.

The fault lies squarely with all those people who are in control of their own lives (group 1). All the others who claim that they are being manipulated and that they have no control of their destiny are just trapped in a self-perpetuating prophecy, and it's not their fault (of course). What, do you think paranoia is drug induced or something? Paranoia is caused by the ruling class. They put things in the water, in your cocoa and in your broccoli when you're not looking.

Actually those of us who are in group 1 are controlling you all.  and there is nothing you can do about it. Keep taking those drugs. You have no choice. (evil laugh)

There is nothing wrong with your life. Do not attempt to adjust it. We are controlling your life. We already control the horizontal and the vertical. We now control the unconscious. We can change the focus from a soft blur to crystal clarity. Sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits........    Wink
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Reply #66 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 8:59pm
 
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Reply #67 - May 15th, 2013 at 11:18am
 
Firstly, why do people use illegal drugs?
The root of the problem is not the growers or the suppliers, its the user.
There is a market demand for illegal drugs.

Take the demand away and the market will crash. Its that simple.

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Reply #68 - May 15th, 2013 at 1:44pm
 
De-registered User wrote on May 15th, 2013 at 11:18am:
Firstly, why do people use illegal drugs?
The root of the problem is not the growers or the suppliers, its the user.
There is a market demand for illegal drugs.

Take the demand away and the market will crash. Its that simple.



Take the market away and the demand will be able to be treated like the insidious addiction it is.
Users shouldn't be criminalised, I mean, we don't lock up boozers just because they booze do we?
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Reply #69 - May 15th, 2013 at 7:21pm
 
Didn't we lose the war on booze almost 100 years ago?

The 'War on Drugs', in the meantime, will prove just as ineffective. Too much money, and too many vested interests, for it ever to succeed.

We should also never forget the human propensity for seeking such 'illumination', whether that be for religious purposes or mere self-gratification.

One thing remains a constant - Homo Sapiens, on an individual level, is ever seeking an escape from the modern reality it is ill-equipped to deal with.
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Reply #70 - May 15th, 2013 at 7:31pm
 
De-registered User wrote on May 15th, 2013 at 11:18am:
Take the demand away and the market will crash. Its that simple.



Heh.  yeah if people everywhere just spontaneously cease seeking intoxicants.

Like that's ever gonna happen.  Grin Grin
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Reply #71 - May 15th, 2013 at 11:24pm
 
De-registered User wrote on May 15th, 2013 at 11:18am:
Firstly, why do people use illegal drugs?
The root of the problem is not the growers or the suppliers, its the user.
There is a market demand for illegal drugs.

Take the demand away and the market will crash. Its that simple.



What's a quarter of 'bush' worth these days, if you can score it, $60?

Ipso facto.  Cool
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Reply #72 - May 16th, 2013 at 1:01am
 
De-registered User wrote on May 15th, 2013 at 11:18am:
Firstly, why do people use illegal drugs?
The root of the problem is not the growers or the suppliers, its the user.
There is a market demand for illegal drugs.

Take the demand away and the market will crash. Its that simple.



X??
the question you put is biased , prejudicial and totally naive.

The solution you posit  'take the demand away'... is ludicrous.
Simplistic,  slanted, and unrealistic..
How would you do that??  Eh??


your question should have been

WHY DO PEOPLE USE ,,...DRUGS.??
You have no idea.??.. 








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Reply #73 - May 16th, 2013 at 10:15am
 
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X??
the question you put is biased , prejudicial and totally naive.

The solution you posit  'take the demand away'... is ludicrous.
Simplistic,  slanted, and unrealistic..
How would you do that??  Eh??


your question should have been

WHY DO PEOPLE USE ,,...DRUGS.??
You have no idea.??.. 


My answer is biased not the question.


And for prejudicial and totally naive,

Well I have been there and beaten it, though its always with you, I must admit it does get easier with time, but the odd thought of temptation comes to haunt once in a blue moon.
Its been 20years for me.

It starts and ends with the user.






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Reply #74 - May 16th, 2013 at 10:56pm
 
.' My answer is biased not the question'.
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Sweetie ..??
don't go getting your knickers in a knot now..

tho your comment (above) is actually ummm  truth... Smiley

seemingly you refer to 'my answer..' ?  meaning your answer..

'Take the demand away and the market will crash. Its that simple'.
???  Roll Eyes

Like everyone will choose to stop..  ???
Sorry Darl  ..  your logic is flawed.

Your answer is NOT .. an answer. Smiley

Not to worry..  Smiley 
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