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Mar 9th, 2010 at 8:21am
 


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The custodian of most of the major mosques in America acts as a front for the radical Muslim Brotherhood in America, and publishes and distributes Islamic literature that exhorts Muslims to "kill" any Westerners who get in the way of spreading Islam, WND has learned.

"No political system or material power should put hindrances in the way of preaching Islam. If someone does this, then it is the duty of Islam to fight him until either he is killed or until he declares his submission," asserts an Islamic publication distributed by the North American Islamic Trust.

NAIT holds title to more than 300 mosques in America – including the large Islamic center outside Washington where the Fort Hood terrorist and some of the 9/11 hijackers worshipped.


NAIT also owns and controls the mosque in Orange County, Calif., that converted al-Qaida spokesman Adam Gadahn to Islam.

Gadahn in a video released Sunday exhorted Muslims serving in the U.S. military to follow in the footsteps of accused Fort Hood terrorist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. He also called for attacks on mass transportation, along with assassinations or kidnappings of key figures in the government, industry and media.

The Justice Department recently blacklisted NAIT as an unindicted co-conspirator in a scheme to funnel millions of dollars to Palestinian terrorists.

NAIT Trustee Gaddoor Saidi was individually listed as an unindicted co-conspirator, as well, in the Holy Land Foundation case -- the largest terror finance trial in U.S. history, which ended in guilty verdicts on all 108 counts.

In addition, the government identified NAIT as a front for Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood in America. Hamas, which was designated a terrorist organization in 1995, has murdered 17 Americans and injured hundreds of other U.S. citizens.

Chicago-based NAIT also handles the finances for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America, the Muslim Students Association, and other Muslim Brotherhood front groups, which, shockingly, make up the Muslim establishment in America, according to the new book, "Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Conspiring to Islamize America."

The Muslim groups have been vehemently protesting the FBI's use of undercover informants in mosques and its recent seizure of several mosques in America. Last year, a mosque leader in Detroit was fatally wounded in a shootout with FBI agents who sought his arrest on felony charges.

Through its subsidiary American Trust Publications, also headquartered in Chicago, NAIT publishes and distributes the pro-offensive-jihad book "Milestones," by the late Muslim Brotherhood leader Sayyid Qutb of Egypt, Osama bin Laden's spiritual father.

"Jihad in Islam is simply a name for striving to make this system of life dominant in the world," the NAIT tome asserts. "Wherever an Islamic community exists which is a concrete example of the Divinely ordained system of life, it has a God-given right to step forward and take control of the political authority so that it may establish the Divine system on earth."

"Milestones" preaches that Shariah law should be implemented "by force" if Western societies resist the barbaric Islamic code.

"Bringing about the enforcement of the Divine Law and the abolition of man-made laws cannot be achieved only through preaching," it says. "When obstacles and practical difficulties are put in its way, it has no recourse but to remove them by force."

"Islam has the right to take the initiative," the book claims. "It has the right to destroy all obstacles in the form of institutions and traditions. It is the duty of Islam to annihilate all such systems."

Chillingly, Qutb's strategy dovetails with one outlined in a U.S. Muslim Brotherhood manifesto recently declassified by the Justice Department.

It lists NAIT among Brotherhood, or "Ikhwan," front groups participating in a seditious conspiracy of "eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within" through a "grand jihad," with the ultimate goal of making Islam "victorious over all religions."

The secret manifesto was found in a terrorist suspect's home in Northern Virginia and entered as evidence in the Holy Land Foundation trial.

According to "Muslim Mafia," NAIT was founded in 1973 with massive funding from the Saudis. It was formed as an investment bank for the Muslim Brotherhood in North America, acquiring title to more than 300 mosques and Islamic schools in the U.S.

Current NAIT Chairman Muzammil Siddiqi appears in secret Brotherhood documents as a high-ranking member of its shura council in America, according to documents cited in "Muslim Mafia."

NAIT did not return phone calls seeking comment.





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Reply #1 - Mar 9th, 2010 at 8:33am
 
I didn't realize Muslims were becoming such a powerful force in America. It will be interesting to see what happens if they grow powerful enough to challenge the Jews who are said to control America.
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Reply #2 - Mar 9th, 2010 at 10:33am
 
Islam has become a major problem for the whole world, and we really need to think rationally, and dispassionately, about just what is the best way to counter the massive swing toward Islamist extremism that it has undergone in the last 40 years or so.

In doing that, we seriously need to look at the actions of the west, that has exacerbated the situation to the point where previously peaceful, decent, spiritual people, began to accept violence as a legitimate expression of Islamic principles.
Now that only happens when people feel they are threatened themselves, and it seems we have reached the point where the open animosity toward muslims has risen to the point where they can rationalise, and self justify, acts of barbaric violence, perpetrated by Islamist extremists, that previously they would have been repulsed by.
Previously such people would have totally disassociated themselves from condoning such behaviour, while now, they are beginning to accept it as a consequential response to their perception of the self preservation of their religion.

So just how do we contain, or even turnaround, this growing acceptance of the radicalisation of Islam?

I believe we need to start by fearlessly and impartially using the secular laws of our western societies, by actively prosecuting all purveyors of hate speech, from whatever quarter they may rise, be it Islamist, Islamophobe, or Ultra Nationalist Evangelicals, we need to show that "OUR" society is a fair and moral society, and we will uphold it's principles.

We need to show that the agenda is not being set by extremists from any quarter, and once we start to do that, then fair and moderate people from all sides will at least have the option of associating themselves with a system they can confidently support as just and fair.
This may seem insignificant, but I do believe that the erosion of the confidence that people have in their culture, due to actions of extremist politicians, has led to a weakening of our cultural integrity, that is easily exploited, and we need to take action to restore confidence and pride in our systems fairness.
That is something we can do at home, for ourselves, and it is no small thing, but it is just the first step, a step which would create a more cohesive, united society, and also make it a society worthy of respect, and worthy of defending.

The first step is getting our own house in order, and doing that would be great, but even if we do, we will still be confronted with foreign regimes, and religious factions that are so extreme that in their current form, they will always be a threat to all secular societies, no matter how fair and honourable they may be, because of the fact that they are religious fanatics whose goal is the creation of a single worldwide theocracy.

Now the megalomanic idiocy of such a concept is something they will never grasp, so how do we marginalise, then contain, this most extreme element of Islam?
This is the most problematic, because if we interfere in the internal politics of Islam, we merely give the fanatics new grounds to justify their violence against us.
Can we actively promote one branch of Islam and hope that it will do it's own dirty work, and solve the problem for us?
Can we identify and support potential leaders who are moderate and peaceful men who could steer the muslim people away from political jihad and back to individual spiritualism?

It is time for muslims to step up and take responsibility for their own religion, and the actions perpetrated in it's name, and the best we can do is to try and offer support to any men of good faith who take such steps, and try and protect both them, and their message, until the muslim people themselves turn away from violence, and fanatical dreams of worldwide theocracy.

The sad fact is that if Islam does not change it's ways, then we could see a day when Islam is compulsorily excluded from secular democracy's and people will seek extreme actions be taken against it, that would make our recent forays into the middle east seem positively benevolent, by comparison, and no decent person would ever want an outcome like that.
We in the west cannot do it all, and we cannot do it alone, if Islam wants peace, and a place in our society, it must step up and do it's share of the lifting too.
Any people who are praying types, would be well advised to include that to their list, when they next join in prayer.
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Reply #3 - Mar 9th, 2010 at 7:14pm
 
mozzaok,

You are in denial. Deep denial about the culpability of nations like the U.S and the U.K in causing all sorts of mischief and chaos and violence around the world (especially the Muslim world). Until you're willing to pull your head out of the sand, and recognise these mistakes, and reverse them, then the problems are going to persist. And threatening to take harsh measures against all Muslims in some form of collective punishment is just ridiculous, and such suggestions really have no place in Australia. They are the thoughts and means which resemble that of Nazism, and of the apartheid of the Zionist state.

YOU are the one who needs to do some reforming, because at present your ideas are just despicable. You need to wake up to the very dangerous and evil outcomes that your ideas present to Australian society and to humanity in general.

Or perhaps one day you'd like to be judged and punished in a collective manner yourself? Because that's the Pandora's box you are opening.
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Reply #4 - Mar 9th, 2010 at 7:25pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 9th, 2010 at 7:14pm:
mozzaok,

You are in denial. Deep denial about the culpability of nations like the U.S and the U.K in causing all sorts of mischief and chaos and violence around the world (especially the Muslim world). Until you're willing to pull your head out of the sand, and recognise these mistakes, and reverse them, then the problems are going to persist. And threatening to take harsh measures against all Muslims in some form of collective punishment is just ridiculous, and such suggestions really have no place in Australia. They are the thoughts and means which resemble that of Nazism, and of the apartheid of the Zionist state.

YOU are the one who needs to do some reforming, because at present your ideas are just despicable. You need to wake up to the very dangerous and evil outcomes that your ideas present to Australian society and to humanity in general.

Or perhaps one day you'd like to be judged and punished in a collective manner yourself? Because that's the Pandora's box you are opening.



They obviously had you and your beard in mind, Abu, when they wrote the anti-terrorist white paper and identified the mindset of terrorists:

A distorted narrative
Many distinct terrorist networks with differing and often local objectives share a broadly common set of beliefs that narrowly and simplistically interprets history and current affairs through the lens of the alleged oppression of Muslims, principally by the West. Groups like al-Qa’ida want people to believe:

•the West, led by the United States of America, is engaged in the systematic exploitation and repression of Muslims;
•governments in Muslim majority countries are illegitimate, corrupt and un-Islamic;
•the solution is the removal of Western interference in Muslim majority countries and the establishment of ‘truly Islamic’ systems of governance; and
•it is the religious duty of all Muslims individually to use violence to attack the political, military, religious and cultural enemies of Islam anywhere around the world.

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Reply #6 - Mar 9th, 2010 at 9:00pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 9th, 2010 at 7:25pm:
Groups like al-Qa’ida want people to believe:

•the West, led by the United States of America, is engaged in the systematic exploitation and repression of Muslims;


Just following the doings of the USA through the mainstream news for the past twenty years or so, that view would seem to be quite valid. It might not always be repression of Muslims is the aim of the USA. More likely it is just an accident that Muslims are in the way wherever the USA is trying to grab control of oil or other resources, land for strategic USA bases, or land to give to Zionists for creation and gradual expansion of Israel.


Soren wrote on Mar 9th, 2010 at 7:25pm:
•the solution is the removal of Western interference in Muslim majority countries...


Sounds to me like a pretty good place to start!

It should surprise nobody that groups like al-Qa’ida think this way because so do I, an Australian all my life and not even a group.
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Reply #7 - Mar 9th, 2010 at 9:10pm
 
fawkes wrote on Mar 9th, 2010 at 9:00pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 9th, 2010 at 7:25pm:
[quote author=soren2 link=1268086878/0#4 date=1268126741]
•the solution is the removal of Western interference in Muslim majority countries...


Sounds to me like a pretty good place to start!


Suppose we pull out of Afghanistan. For how many decades would you accept Al-Quaida blowing up our buildings and killing innocent people in 'revenge' for past crimes before you would expect them to get over it?
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For how many decades would you accept Al-Quaida blowing up our buildings


"our"? Who is the "our" in this sentence fd? If you're an Aussie, then which of "our" buildings did they blow up? Neither AQ nor any Islamic resistance movement even blinked an eye at Australia until Johhny the brown-noser got his nose permanently attached to the rectum of one GWB whilst trying to hang off his coat-tails and made us a target. Australian intelligence analysts and pretty much anyone in the know, all agree that our involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq is the only thing that's put us in danger of being a target.
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soren,

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They obviously had you and your beard in mind, Abu, when they wrote the anti-terrorist white paper and identified the mindset of terrorists:

A distorted narrative


As fawkes points out, many of those views aren't even restricted to Muslims. Any discerning watcher of world affairs, with a little background in modern history would probably be thinking along the same lines on many of those points too. I know I held pretty much the same views prior to my even knowing anything about Islam.

The last point is just ridiculous though, and obviously thrown in there purely to de-legitimise the perfectly understandable views above it. There are very few Muslims who advocate committing acts of violence, except for those who are under attack themselves, and in occupation zones. In which case the U.N grants them the right to resist that anyway.
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Reply #10 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:21am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 5:54am:
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For how many decades would you accept Al-Quaida blowing up our buildings


"our"? Who is the "our" in this sentence fd? If you're an Aussie, then which of "our" buildings did they blow up? Neither AQ nor any Islamic resistance movement even blinked an eye at Australia until Johhny the brown-noser got his nose permanently attached to the rectum of one GWB whilst trying to hang off his coat-tails and made us a target. Australian intelligence analysts and pretty much anyone in the know, all agree that our involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq is the only thing that's put us in danger of being a target.


The coalition of the willing. Perhaps you didn't notice, but it was not a reference to past events.
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Reply #11 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:32am
 
lol, Abu, you may be the first truly funny muslim.

You describe my position as despicable, and if you analyse just why you feel that way, it is because I include Islam, and muslims, as needing to become a part of a solution to bring about peace.
I used the first three quarters of my post discussing how we in the west have contributed to this rise in extremism, and stated that we in the west need to turn that around, a point I would have expected you to agree with, but because I also expect Islam to change as well, I become despicable in the eyes of a "moderate" muslim like yourself.

Unfortunately I fear that Soren's impression of you may be more accurate than mine, and I hate to think that, I have always wanted to see moderate Islam prevail against the insanity of extremists, but finding moderate Islam is becoming somewhat like a unicorn hunt.

The future for us all will be much uglier, if we fail to find that unicorn.
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Reply #12 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 8:34am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2010 at 9:10pm:
Suppose we pull out of Afghanistan. For how many decades would you accept Al-Quaida blowing up our buildings and killing innocent people in 'revenge' for past crimes before you would expect them to get over it?


Well, you have been blowing up buildings and killing innocent people in Afghanistan for several years now, so it would be reasonable to give Al-Quaida a free hit at you for the same length of time. After that, if you were to deploy all the military forces you bring home from Afghanistan to civil defence within your own borders, you should be able to thwart most attacks aimed against you.  Finally, if you were to try the diplomatic approach you should have tried at the beginning, of acknowledging the validity of the complaints Al-Quaida has made against you and making amends, you might finally bring an end to all hostilities from Al-Quaida.
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Reply #13 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 8:51am
 
lmao, written like a thirteen year old who thinks he has just figured it all out.
Grow up Fawkes, just because one side has had right wing ideologues involved does not mean that the opposing side is therefore offering valid decent options, no sane person would ever seek to enable extremist Islam to carry out it's goals.
Can you imagine how long you would last in Iran, if you were offering public complaints about their form of governance?
What Al Quaeda, and other ratbag extremists want is an Iran style theocracy, ruling the whole world, including you, is that something you are comfortable with?
I am not, and never will be.

I mean seriously, before you defend these guys you really should seek to learn what their ultimate aims are, and they are far more sinister than you credit them as being, which does not mean that they are totally wrong on all levels, and that we are totally right, but when both sides are reviewed, on balance, our side is infinitely more desirable.
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Reply #14 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:32am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 6:09am:
soren,

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They obviously had you and your beard in mind, Abu, when they wrote the anti-terrorist white paper and identified the mindset of terrorists:

A distorted narrative


As fawkes points out, many of those views aren't even restricted to Muslims. Any discerning watcher of world affairs, with a little background in modern history would probably be thinking along the same lines on many of those points too. I know I held pretty much the same views prior to my even knowing anything about Islam.

The last point is just ridiculous though, and obviously thrown in there purely to de-legitimise the perfectly understandable views above it. There are very few Muslims who advocate committing acts of violence, except for those who are under attack themselves, and in occupation zones. In which case the U.N grants them the right to resist that anyway.



You are all jihadis, it is a fundamental tenet of islam. If you say you are a Muslim you are also saying that you are a jihadi. They are inseparable.

That's the difference between garden variety anti-Americanism or anti-imperailism and Muslims - jihad. Your fundamental, non-negotiable stance, your opening move is jihad.


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