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Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ??
Reply #15 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:34pm

absolutely ridiculous notion.
i'd like to see most of the non anglos piss off now.
disappear for good.

i can't see any of the new population coming from Europe.
they've become too aware of the amount of 3rd worlders living here now.

the core problem is governmental control.
the ppl responsible, that are behind the gov't should be exposed and dealt with.

but no, no....
no real aussie got the guts, and these new aussies won't rock the boat.

this place is really f^cked.
j.

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Reply #16 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:39pm

freediver wrote on Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:29pm:

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My point exactly freediver. I'm not suggesting third world living; I'm suggesting that it is inevitable our population will grow.

Not true. Most first world nations have a birth rate below the replacement level. It is only the stubborn refusal of old people to kick the bucket, and high immigration rates, that keeps the population rising.

Australia's birth rate estimate in 2009 is 12.47 births/1,000 people. The death rate estimate in 2009 is 6.74 deaths/1,000 people. Hence, while yes most of Europe is experiencing a decline in population because of birth rates, even if we were to completely cut out skilled migrations (60% of our population growth), we would still have population growth. So, it is inevitable in Australia at this time.

The article looks very interesting and I promise to read it when I get a chance, a bit later on

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Sunny_beach_babe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 841	Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ?? Reply #17 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:45pm Quote: So, it is inevitable in Australia at this time Are you really this much of an ignoramus on statistics? Do you think that a one year sample is representative?
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Reply #18 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:50pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:45pm:

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So, it is inevitable in Australia at this time

Are you really this much of an ignoramus on statistics? Do you think that a one year sample is representative?

LOL is all I have to say. Care to do some research?

Birth Rates:
2003: 12.55
2004: 12.26
2005: 12.26
2006: 12.14
2007: 12.02
2008: 12.55
2009: 12.47

Death rates:
2003: 7.31
2004: 7.44
2005: 7.44
2006: 7.51
2007: 7.56
2008: 6.68
2009: 6.74

Would you like this graphed?

Would you like me to go back for 20 years?

Droopy eye, if you wish for their to be a decline in population growth I suggest you become part of the 2010 death rate statistic.

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Sunny_beach_babe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 841	Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ?? Reply #19 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:54pm Quote: Would you like me to go back for 20 years? Yep. Lets see the decline that could be extrapolated. Nice the way Costello's baby bonus lifted the rate somewhat, isn't it.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ?? Reply #20 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:57pm Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 25^th, 2010 at 8:54pm: Quote: Would you like me to go back for 20 years? Yep. Lets see the decline that could be extrapolated. Nice the way Costello's baby bonus lifted the rate somewhat, isn't it. Well, if you want a larger population then yes, it is fantastic
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Sunny_beach_babe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 841	Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ?? Reply #21 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:00pm Sigh You have maintained that we would have a larger population even ceasing all immigration. Stating that it is 'inevitable' Your statement is wrong
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ?? Reply #22 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:01pm Yes, then welcome the baby bonus. Provide something a bit more relevant than 1997 if you can?
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Sunny_beach_babe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 841	Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ?? Reply #23 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:04pm You made the statement- it is up to you to provide the proof that population growth "is inevitable" even without immigration. Let's see it...or hitch up that skirt again sweetheart and get a move along
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Reply #24 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:20pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:04pm:

You made the statement- it is up to you to provide the proof that population growth "is inevitable" even without immigration.

Let's see it...or hitch up that skirt again sweetheart and get a move along Grin

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Since the introduction of the baby bonus, fertility rate has risen to 1.93 in 2007. While not at the WORLD replacement level of 2.1, with population momentum, and immigration, Australia continues to experience population growth. Based on the birth rate/death rate figures I have provided, it shows again that our population will continue to grow, even WITHOUT immigration.

More for you:

Population estimate in Dec 2006: 20,848,760
Population estimate in Dec 2007: 21,180,632
Immigration intake in 2007: 158,630

So...now I know this is hard but...where did the other 173,242 come from? The only thing I will correct is that I said 60% of our population growth is because of immigration. Based on these figures I am wrong on that, it is less. Sorry.

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Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ??
Reply #25 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:28pm

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While not at the WORLD replacement level of 2.1, with population momentum, and immigration, Australia continues to experience population growth. Based on the birth rate/death rate figures I have provided, it shows again that our population will continue to grow, even WITHOUT immigration.

Based on the birth/death rates you have provided you are completely incorrect.

I wonder if you can work out how? I wouldn't think so seeing as you posted such simplistic figures to try and back your absurd assertions, but it seems you are all about absurdity

I'll wait in anticipation as you try and figure it out Grin

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Reply #26 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:31pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:28pm:

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While not at the WORLD replacement level of 2.1, with population momentum, and immigration, Australia continues to experience population growth. Based on the birth rate/death rate figures I have provided, it shows again that our population will continue to grow, even WITHOUT immigration.

Based on the birth/death rates you have provided you are completely incorrect.

I wonder if you can work out how? I wouldn't think so seeing as you posted such simplistic figures to try and back your absurd assertions, but it seems you are all about absurdity

I'll wait in anticipation as you try and figure it out Grin

No need droopy eye:) You have the figures there. Prove it otherwise.

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Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ??
Reply #27 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:57pm

Here you go sweetheart.

Now, don't go getting hysterical. Go ask hubby what you should do

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs%40.nsf/94713ad445ff1425ca25682000192af2/16475...

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This projection is based on the estimated resident population at 30 June 2009 and assumes growth since then of:

* one birth every 1 minute and 45 seconds,
* one death every 3 minutes and 40 seconds,
* a net gain of one international migrant every 1 minute and 51 seconds leading to
* an overall total population increase of one person every 1 minute and 11 seconds.

Now go ahead and remove the immigrant factor and let me know what you come up with.

Then factor in a decline in the birth rate over the next 10-20 years

Roll Eyes

Why do you put forward statements that you know are wrong, Alewives?

Oh that's right, you're a leftard. Lies and obfuscation is your modus operandi Roll Eyes

Try the truth for once and see how enlightened you feel

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Reply #28 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 10:17pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 25^th, 2010 at 9:57pm:

Here you go sweetheart.

Now, don't go getting hysterical. Go ask hubby what you should do

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs%40.nsf/94713ad445ff1425ca25682000192af2/16475...

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This projection is based on the estimated resident population at 30 June 2009 and assumes growth since then of:

* one birth every 1 minute and 45 seconds,
* one death every 3 minutes and 40 seconds,
* a net gain of one international migrant every 1 minute and 51 seconds leading to
* an overall total population increase of one person every 1 minute and 11 seconds.

Now go ahead and remove the immigrant factor and let me know what you come up with.

Then factor in a decline in the birth rate over the next 10-20 years

Roll Eyes

Why do you put forward statements that you know are wrong, Alewives?

Oh that's right, you're a leftard. Lies and obfuscation is your modus operandi Roll Eyes

Try the truth for once and see how enlightened you feel

2 mistakes:
1. Alewife, not alewives.
2. The net migrant intake going to 0 will not reduce the birth rate to be below or equal to the death rate. Hence, natural population growth still occurs.

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Re: Who wants 35 million in aussie ??
Reply #29 - Jan 25^th, 2010 at 10:36pm

1. No, Alewives is correct. Look it up Wink

2. Perhaps when you open your other eye you might try reading it again
Here, I'll make it easy because you have comprehension difficulties
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Then factor in a decline in the birth rate over the next 10-20 years

You really are a smacking dickhead. You come in here with a smarmy smacking attitude and have been completely pw3nd.

I have thoroughly enjoyed handing you your arse on a platter. Eat up sunshine. Grin

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