I don't think the article used the term, nor implied it. It made very specific claims, not generalisations.

Got this in an email today.

FACTS TO MAKE EVERY Indian PROUD

India Has 52 Billionaires; Mukesh Ambani Richest
The Top 10 Richest in India are:  (Forbes (2010)
1. Mukesh Ambani $32 billion
2. Lakshmi Mittal $30 billion
3. Anil Ambani $17.5 billion
4. Azim Premji $14.9 billion
5. Shashi & Ravi Ruia $13.6 billion
6. KP Singh $13.5 billion
7. Savitri Jindal $12 billion
8. Sunil Mittal $8.2 billion
9. Kumar Birla $7.8 billion
10. Gautam Adani $6.4 billion



Q. Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard (hp) ?
A. Rajiv Gupta


Q. Who is the creator of Pentium chip (needs no introduction as 90% of the today's computers run on it)?
A. Vinod Dahm


Q. Who is the third richest man on the world?
A. According to the latest report on Fortune Magazine, it is Azim Premji, who is the CEO of Wipro Industries. The Sultan of Brunei is at 6 th position now.

Q. Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail (Hotmail is world's No.1 web based email program)?
A. Sabeer Bhatia

Q. Who is the president of AT & T-Bell Labs (AT & T-Bell Labs is the creator of program languages such as C, C++, Unix to name a few)?
A. Arun Netravalli

Q. Who is the new MTD (Microsoft Testing Director) of Windows 2000, responsible to iron out all initial problems?
A. Sanjay Tejwrika




Q. Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, Mckensey & Stanchart?
A. Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar.

Q. We Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America , even faring better than the whites and the natives.
There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET,

38% of doctors in USA are Indians.

12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians.

34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.

28% of IBM employees are Indians.

17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are! Indians.



Some of the following facts may be known to you. These facts were recently published in a German magazine, which deals with WORLD HISTORY FACTS ABOUT INDIA .
1. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history.
2. India invented the Number system. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta.
3. The world's first University was established in Takshila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4 th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education.
4. According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable language for computer software.

5. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans.
6. Although western media portray modern images of India as poverty striken and underdeveloped through political corruption, India was once the richest empire on earth.

7. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. The very word "Navigation" is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH.
8. The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is now k! nown as the Pythagorean Theorem. British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that Budhayan's works dates to the 6 th Century which is long before the European mathematicians.

9. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India . Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11 th Century; the largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians used numbers as big as 10 53.
10. According to the Gemmological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds to the world.

11. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century-old suspicion amongst academics that the pioneer of wireless communication was Professor Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi.
12. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra.

13. Chess was invented in India .

14. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted surgeries like cesareans, cataract, fractures and urinary stones. Usage of anaesthesia was well known in ancient India .
15. When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley ( Indus Valley Civilisation).
16. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC.



Quotes about India .
We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.
Albert Einstein.




India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of tradition.
Mark Twain.

If there is one place on the face of earth where all dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India .
French scholar Romain Rolland.

India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border.
Hu Shih
(former Chinese ambassador to USA )



   




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Bottom line is, if a group of people value some particular skill, they will do well at it. The Indians seem to value money and professional status, more so than traditional caste status. It's an improvement at least. I suspect the professional status bit is a hangover from caste.

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Bottom line is, if a group of people value some particular skill, they will do well at it. The Indians seem to value money and professional status, more so than traditional caste status. It's an improvement at least. I suspect the professional status bit is a hangover from caste.

I suspect so too. It's partly a developing economy thing, but Indians have something many other developing countries don't have. The Indians rate education extremely highly. You'll probably find more post-graduates in India than any country in the world.

When I did my English teaching prac in a selective school and some high achieving classes in another school (in Sydney), Indian students were always a big presence.

I found the Chinese and Vietnamese kids - those from a Confucian background, and Indian and Sri Lankan kids - those from a Vedic background/culture - were the largest ethnic groups in the top classes.

White Anglos were also there, of course. But easily the hardest working kids were the Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian and Sri Lankans.

The Korean immigration wave was a bit after my time, but I'm sure you'd see plenty of Koreans there now too.

And they all get flogged mercilessly by their parents - such high expectations. And I think this is partly the reason for the success: very tight family systems.

But the modern media are also right if they portray India as underdeveloped, ful of poverty, and rife with political corruption. It is all those things.

And this is another reason for Indians' successes: the avoidance of dire poverty. Indians are incredibly competitive, and there is always someone to replace you on the heap.

If you can survive the sheer extremes of everything in India: the monsoons, the Indian summers (40 to 50 degrees is normal), the population, the traffic, the regular collapse of essential services; you'll do anything.

So you do.

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Interesting.. 4th. richest man in India, yet 3rd. richest man in the world. At least one of those Indians has to be an extra terrestrial then!

Big Donger wrote on Feb 13^th, 2010 at 7:16pm:



It means that you believe nonsense. Being a devout muslim (if indeed you meant that little quip) makes this unsurprising.

I didn't say I wasn't surprised. I said that believing nonsense and being a devout Muslim is unsurprising. Objectively, like a law of nature.

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2010 at 12:22pm:


What? Now you also believe what devout Muslims do?

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2010 at 1:31pm:



I am glad it does not make sense to you. I would not want to engage with you in your customary pretends, hair splittings and faux differentiations. Sit back and watch and hope it gets clearer for you or see the end of this threat, dying the way so many others do.