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skippy

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The Oedipus Complex and more. (split from Enviro)
Dec 13^th, 2009 at 10:11am

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I'll drop in occassionally as I have in the past, but as long as the moron Skippy is here I don't feel inclined to be trolled from topic to topic and have him ruin it for everyone just because he's obsessed.

What he means to say is that he is over me showing him up for the lying troll that he is.
The funny thing is that while he protests so loudly that I make him look the tool he is, the wanker signed up to another forum where he knows full well I post , he's even started to try and engage me there.
Yep, boofy is a lying tard.

I even welcomed him.

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Welcome beowulf, and I do mean it, we need a range of opinions here and having looked at your posts so far I'd say you'd be somewhere in the centre, not as right wing as I would have expected.

What a hypocrite.

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: TO THE DENIALIST/ALARMISTS Reply #1 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 10:31am That's my new forum Skippy. Grendel was doing me a favour. I know you two have your differences - but if you could both see past them, we could all be happy. I'll sneak this in before FD removes it. http://polanimal.com/menagerie/index.php
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skippy

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Reply #2 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 11:04am

mantra wrote on Dec 13^th, 2009 at 10:31am:

That's my new forum Skippy. Grendel was doing me a favour. I know you two have your differences - but if you could both see past them, we could all be happy.

I'll sneak this in before FD removes it.

http://polanimal.com/menagerie/index.php

As you can see by my welcome post to him Mantra I'm a big enough man "to see past it" pity he isn't.

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Reply #3 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 11:31am

I know Skippy - but I've got a feeling your posts crossed - I think they were made probably around the same time.

You know I appreciate your membership on Political Menagerie and you have really helped it progress with good debating.

People will always have serious differences, but I don't know how to control the hostility that well yet. I appreciate the input both you and Grendel have made and the fact that you both have really put some effort into your posts. You in particular Skippy have had a hard time there - and you haven't walked away and for that I say thank you.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: TO THE DENIALIST/ALARMISTS Reply #4 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 12:25pm muso wrote on Dec 13^th, 2009 at 6:29am: Soren wrote on Dec 12^th, 2009 at 9:08pm: muso wrote on Dec 12^th, 2009 at 3:16pm: It's not your fault that you don't have any scientific background, I guess. As things stand, I'm counting my blessings. It's a worrying trend. Ah! You said it again!!
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Reply #5 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 4:25pm

rotflmao

as much as it irks me to have to reply I cannot let your libellous lies go unanswered Rooboy...

1/ If I had known you were on polanimal I wouldn't have registered.
Mantra didn't tell me you were there. I joined because she asked.
2/ I haven't seen and won't go looking for your so-called welcome? So all the associated crap you wrote about me re it is totally wrong and just made up in your vacuous head.
3/ I have not engaged you... not even once on polanimal. You are obsessed and a liar, not me.
4/ In fact you are the one who has started the flames on that site (again) by being incapable of even using my correct id. Using a derogatory term instead.

The only lying troll is you skippy as has been pointed out on the other site. I believe your usual courtesy was used and you told the poster to "Get bugger.ed"
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Pssst Skip- you do know that Beowulf is Grendel who you stalked and trolled constantly like a smacking dick on Ozpol?

yes... everyone knows about you and the truth after all Skippy.

Now pls stop libelling me and lying about me. You waste my time.

As for your constant off-topic trolling and starting flamewars etc... that is why I don't post here regularly anymore.

looks like your starting the same crap on polanimal. Well yes, it will have the same result.

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Reply #6 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 4:55pm

If you want to post without stalkers and flamers:

www.polanimal.com.au (if Mantra can do it why not me?

:)

skippy is a member there but has hardly spent any time there, so you are safe!

(And I had to set that board up as the idiot running the PA board attached to this site banned me and has pretty much ruined it--I keep telling/PMing FD but all he does is make the situation worse!

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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: TO THE DENIALIST/ALARMISTS Reply #7 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 7:06pm Could somebody provide me with the background on this ongoing Skippy-Grendel feud?
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Reply #8 - Dec 14^th, 2009 at 10:11am

sure, Imperium, I am pretty familiar with it.
We all used to be members of a site at Cracker, which was a fairfax group politics forum.
Grendel used to post their a LOT, and was a pretty huge One Nation supporter.
He held an almost proprietry attitude to those boards and was sometimes jokingly referred to as the King of Cracker.

He always stated that he was left wing leaning in his political views, and then proceeded to post cut and paste examples of mainly ultra right wing commentators like Piers Akerman, and Andrew Bolt, which drew much derision from true left wingers like myself and Skippy.
He was very free flowing with his insults, as the boards were totally unmoderated, and all who disagreed were morons, idiots etc.

I laughed these off, as ego has never been a problem I have struggled with, lol, whereas Skippy was more likely to respond in kind, and so the anymosity developed.
Grendel told Skippy not to reply to his posts, as if he had any right to do that, and then when Skippy responded he started calling him a Troll, who was haunting him, to which, Skippy obviously knew he had him well and truly hooked, and it just escalated from there.

I have seen amazingly good posts from both of them, and some pretty appalling ones too, but if I had to make a judgement I would say that Grendel instigated the feud, and perhaps even to say he invited it, may not be too strong.

Now in this forum, Skippy has been far more reasoned, and reasonable in his posts, as he shows a respect for the style of this forum more than Grendel does, because the guy who started this forum, Freediver, always bested Grendel in arguments by employing sound logic, and impartial reasoning, which infuriated Grendel to the point where he openly disliked, and disrespected Freediver as well, so he has treated this place with a degree of contempt, because unlike at cracker, he has never been allowed to rule the roost here as he has tried to do elsewhere.

The funny thing is he has some excellent ideas and quite unique insights on a lot of subjects, but he gets a little over zealous on how he conveys his thoughts at times, and if he were to use a more measured approach, he would actually win more people over to his arguments than he currently does with his combative, insulting style.

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Reply #9 - Dec 14^th, 2009 at 6:05pm

mozzaok wrote on Dec 14^th, 2009 at 10:11am:

sure, Imperium, I am pretty familiar with it.
We all used to be members of a site at Cracker, which was a fairfax group politics forum.
Grendel used to post their a LOT, and was a pretty huge One Nation supporter.
He held an almost proprietry attitude to those boards and was sometimes jokingly referred to as the King of Cracker.

He always stated that he was left wing leaning in his political views, and then proceeded to post cut and paste examples of mainly ultra right wing commentators like Piers Akerman, and Andrew Bolt, which drew much derision from true left wingers like myself and Skippy.
He was very free flowing with his insults, as the boards were totally unmoderated, and all who disagreed were morons, idiots etc.

I laughed these off, as ego has never been a problem I have struggled with, lol, whereas Skippy was more likely to respond in kind, and so the anymosity developed.
Grendel told Skippy not to reply to his posts, as if he had any right to do that, and then when Skippy responded he started calling him a Troll, who was haunting him, to which, Skippy obviously knew he had him well and truly hooked, and it just escalated from there.

I have seen amazingly good posts from both of them, and some pretty appalling ones too, but if I had to make a judgement I would say that Grendel instigated the feud, and perhaps even to say he invited it, may not be too strong.

Now in this forum, Skippy has been far more reasoned, and reasonable in his posts, as he shows a respect for the style of this forum more than Grendel does, because the guy who started this forum, Freediver, always bested Grendel in arguments by employing sound logic, and impartial reasoning, which infuriated Grendel to the point where he openly disliked, and disrespected Freediver as well, so he has treated this place with a degree of contempt, because unlike at cracker, he has never been allowed to rule the roost here as he has tried to do elsewhere.

The funny thing is he has some excellent ideas and quite unique insights on a lot of subjects, but he gets a little over zealous on how he conveys his thoughts at times, and if he were to use a more measured approach, he would actually win more people over to his arguments than he currently does with his combative, insulting style.

Over zealous? Everyone is entitled to state their opinion, surely.

What makes you think, Moz, that people who post on Forums want to win people over to their side?

You can talk to me until you are black and blue in the face and explain how the ALP operates and even offer me dollars but I will NEVER EVER vote ALP. You want to know why?
Grin

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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: TO THE DENIALIST/ALARMISTS Reply #10 - Dec 15^th, 2009 at 9:00am Yes Neferti, you are right, I could never get you to the side of the ALP, they wouldn't take you. lmao. Of course you are totally correct, I have never been critical of any ALP member, or policy, and I am clearly a mindless drone who blindly follows a single party line.
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Reply #11 - Dec 15^th, 2009 at 9:11am

I should add a little to my precis about the ongoing Skippy vs Grendel feud, I probably have been a bit unfair to Grendel, as it does take two to tango, and as I associated the 'power" position as being Grendels, I inadvertently insulted Skippy by not acknowledging that he as a mature thinking person could also have pulled back from the ongoing abuse on several occasions, when a truce of kind was offered, but he chose to continue with the vitriol and abuse as his preferred method of arguing with Grendel, so as it clearly takes two to tango, I guess I should acknowledge that at times when an olive branch has been offered, it seems neither side has been willing to take it up.

The sad thing is that neither of them are morons or idiots or any other derogatory label, they are just like most of us here, fallable.
I make as many mistakes as most, as many have been happy to point out to me, but I do try and take it in good spirit, and not to heart, and move on to the next argument.

I really wish that they could put an end to their feud and try starting afresh, as a sort of Christmas Peace offering, and then we could all enjoy seeing ideas and perspectives from others that we may never have found on our own, that is after all is said and done a very worthwhile exercise in our pursuit of greater understanding.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: TO THE DENIALIST/ALARMISTS Reply #12 - Dec 15^th, 2009 at 9:12am I might split this off into some more relevant part of the site. It is unrelated to Environment.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Grendel, Freud and the meaning of life Reply #13 - Dec 15^th, 2009 at 9:14am This is off-topic material that was split from the Environment forum.
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Senexx Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101 Australia	Re: The Oedipus Complex and more. (split from Enviro) Reply #14 - Dec 15^th, 2009 at 12:58pm I preferred the old split thread title but I knew that I knew Grendel in a previous debate forum life.
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