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Re: What output do we get from our pollies ?
Reply #30 - Dec 24th, 2009 at 5:58pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:55pm:
Whenever you attempt to stereotype any racial groups as all having a single propensity, then you are always going to lose the argument, before you even start, but if you point out common patterns of anti-social behaviour, and do it in a non-threatening, and not deliberately offensive manner, then I cannot see that you would ever have any problem with any laws in australia Aussie Skinhead.

Stereotypes are derived from observations of common behaviours of certain types of people. Stereotypes are often common behaviours of people. They may be exaggerated but they are often true.
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Reply #31 - Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:20pm
 
Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 24th, 2009 at 5:58pm:
mozzaok wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:55pm:
Whenever you attempt to stereotype any racial groups as all having a single propensity, then you are always going to lose the argument, before you even start, but if you point out common patterns of anti-social behaviour, and do it in a non-threatening, and not deliberately offensive manner, then I cannot see that you would ever have any problem with any laws in australia Aussie Skinhead.

Stereotypes are derived from observations of common behaviours of certain types of people. Stereotypes are often common behaviours of people. They may be exaggerated but they are often true.  



Well therin lies the problem that people are not permitted to be brutally honest unless their comments fit a certain agenda.
I could rattle off loads of situations where stereotypical judgements are accepted because they fit a certain agenda which therefore makes it politically correct to silence the dissenters.
It's this type of dishonesty that allows the bank owners to rule the whole damned schemozzle.

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Reply #32 - Dec 25th, 2009 at 8:30am
 
Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 24th, 2009 at 5:58pm:
mozzaok wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:55pm:
Whenever you attempt to stereotype any racial groups as all having a single propensity, then you are always going to lose the argument, before you even start, but if you point out common patterns of anti-social behaviour, and do it in a non-threatening, and not deliberately offensive manner, then I cannot see that you would ever have any problem with any laws in australia Aussie Skinhead.

Stereotypes are derived from observations of common behaviours of certain types of people. Stereotypes are often common behaviours of people. They may be exaggerated but they are often true.  

Why are stereotypes of others more often negative?

Have you noticed that its easier to see fault in others than in oneself?
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Reply #33 - Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:41pm
 
Of course there are negative stereotypes because people take notice of bad things instead of good things. Yes, we have problems our selves but does that justify importing other people who have problems?

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Well therin lies the problem that people are not permitted to be brutally honest unless their comments fit a certain agenda.
I could rattle off loads of situations where stereotypical judgements are accepted because they fit a certain agenda which therefore makes it politically correct to silence the dissenters.
It's this type of dishonesty that allows the bank owners to rule the whole damned schemozzle.


Every one has a agenda. Some agendas are good while others are bad. People should be allowed to speak freely and be as blunt as possible if they like. I'm not saying that stereotypes are correct but they do have some factual truth. One, in making a judgment, should be allowed to take into account any thing he likes that is relevant to a  case. Every thing shapes a man. A man's background, political, economic and social believes and every thing else are influenced by a variety of different things like race, ethnicity, past experiences etc.
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Reply #34 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 10:06am
 
Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:41pm:
Of course there are negative stereotypes because people take notice of bad things instead of good things. Yes, we have problems our selves but does that justify importing other people who have problems?

And wouldn't people of particular mindsets be predisposed to believe bad things about the other more readily and be less likely to apply any critical thinking to the matter?

Not importing people who have problems... Should that be applied without regard to ethnicity?
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Reply #35 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 11:37am
 
Please explain
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Reply #36 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 8:50pm
 
Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 26th, 2009 at 11:37am:
Please explain

If you're predisposed to see the bad in a particular other, you're not in an ideal situation to judge whether what you believe of that other is a fair and true account of their essence... In other words, when it comes to an assessment of that other, you'd have to disqualify yourself from making judgement due to your prejudicial mindset. In your case any non-white is inherently inferior in all the important things including morally and socially... That would make it impossible for you to be fair and just when assessing the character of a non-white individual.

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Reply #37 - Dec 27th, 2009 at 12:50am
 
As a white racialist, I am able to make a good judgment. Why? Because I have come to my conclusions through a long process of thinking about the said topics and that. I use to be a communist but I studied and read about what was really going on and I changed my mind.
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Reply #38 - Dec 27th, 2009 at 1:41pm
 
Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 27th, 2009 at 12:50am:
As a white racialist, I am able to make a good judgment. Why? Because I have come to my conclusions through a long process of thinking about the said topics and that. I use to be a communist but I studied and read about what was really going on and I changed my mind.

But would you concede that due to your strong dislike of non-whites you would not be capable of making an even-handed and just assessment of a non-white's character?
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Reply #39 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 3:34pm
 
No, not really. All because I don't like them doesn't mean I can't make a fair judgment. One can always be neutral in such matters. Now, aren't you just making a stereotype of "racists" and skinheads by making such claims?
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Reply #40 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 4:45pm
 
Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 3:34pm:
No, not really. All because I don't like them doesn't mean I can't make a fair judgment. One can always be neutral in such matters.

I'd suggest that depends on the depth of your animosity towards them... But if you believe you can be even-handed in your judgement of them regardless of the depth of your dislike for them, then would you concede that there are some non-whites who would make (and do make) better citizens than some whites?

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 3:34pm:
Now, aren't you just making a stereotype of "racists" and skinheads by making such claims?

I'm not making any claims, I'm basing on my questions on statements you have made about your expressed opinions about non-whites. You are also clearly an admirer of Nazism, so why do you think its presumptuous of anyone to infer that you agree with their racist ideology?
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Reply #41 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 5:24pm
 
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then would you concede that there are some non-whites who would make (and do make) better citizens than some whites?


Yes, in their own county. They have their own countries so they don't need ours. Most non whites don't make good citizens because they are too different to us.
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so why do you think its presumptuous of anyone to infer that you agree with their racist ideology?


Of course I agree with National Socialism. I didn't say that people are making presumptions when they claim that I agree with National Socialism or with the skinhead movement. After all, I am a National Socialist skinhead.
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Reply #42 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 5:33pm
 
Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 5:24pm:
Yes, in their own county. They have their own countries so they don't need ours. Most non whites don't make good citizens because they are too different to us.

Then are you sure you could be reasonable, fair and just in your assessment of non-whites in Australia, given that you don't believe they should be resident here in the first place?

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 5:24pm:
Of course I agree with National Socialism. I didn't say that people are making presumptions when they claim that I agree with National Socialism or with the skinhead movement. After all, I am a National Socialist skinhead.

And National Socialism includes a distinctly racist ideology... So how do you reconcile that with your claims of being capable of fairness towards non-whites?
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Reply #43 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 11:46pm
 
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Then are you sure you could be reasonable, fair and just in your assessment of non-whites in Australia, given that you don't believe they should be resident here in the first place?


Of course I would be fair. The fair thing to do would be to deport them because they don't belong here. It isn' fair to trick them into thinking that they can integrate into the Australian society.

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And National Socialism includes a distinctly racist ideology... So how do you reconcile that with your claims of being capable of fairness towards non-whites?


As I have said before, the word "racist" is a Jewish Communist term. The whole idea of anti-racism is culturally Marxist and thus communist. Cultural Marxism was invented by Jewish Communist intellectuals in the west during the 1920s. National Socialism is derived from observations of nature and interactions between people of different sexes, nationalities, classes, ethnicities and races. Thus, it is fair to implement the views of National Socialism in regards to people of different races, ethnic ties and nationalities.
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Reply #44 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 12:30am
 
Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 11:46pm:
Of course I would be fair. The fair thing to do would be to deport them because they don't belong here. It isn' fair to trick them into thinking that they can integrate into the Australian society.

Fair to whom? Deport them to where? Justice and fairness require you to put aside how you feel about them and judge them by the content of their character. If they have broken no laws, contribute to the economy, have in every way acted as decent citizens, what possible just reason would there be to expel them against their will?

Should white people be deported if they break Australian law?

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 11:46pm:
As I have said before, the word "racist" is a Jewish Communist term. The whole idea of anti-racism is culturally Marxist and thus communist. Cultural Marxism was invented by Jewish Communist intellectuals in the west during the 1920s. National Socialism is derived from observations of nature and interactions between people of different sexes, nationalities, classes, ethnicities and races. Thus, it is fair to implement the views of National Socialism in regards to people of different races, ethnic ties and nationalities.

What difference does it make about the origins of a term? Let's call it grebelianism, so long as we agree it includes reference to an act of or predisposition towards vehement hatred of those exhibiting a certain outward physiology and the subsequent act or pre-disposition towards an act of pre-judgement based solely on physiological appearance, then its grebelianism or... racism.
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