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Dec 11th, 2009 at 8:53am
 
AHHH...  when man's emissions are zero, just what are you guys going to do about the other 97% of CO2?  hmmm?

I mean it'll keep going up and down as it likes to.
Weather, seasons and climate will continue to change.
Warming and cooling will continue.
The planet will continue to evolve, be dynamic, etc, etc, etc...

Next Ice Age you guys can open up the old Coal Fired Power Stations eh...  and fend off the cold weather and climate change.  Grin Grin Grin

oh and before I go let me leave you with this...

Just what climate zones have changed?  I mean climate change eh...  there must be changes in climate if there is climate change.  So which zones have changed and how?

merry Xmas  ho ho ho...  Grin Grin Grin



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Reply #1 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 9:30am
 
Didn't you understand my explanation of carbon fluxes on the other thread? You can only get that kind of figure (97%) by ignoring the negative fluxes - the fluxes from the atmosphere to the land and ocean.

It's called lying. Those people lied to you Grendel
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Reply #2 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 9:39am
 
Just using the figure most quoted by YOUR fellow believers Muso...
can't debate, can't refute.
now goodbye.
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Reply #3 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 11:51am
 
- ok - I understand. You didn't win , must toodle.

It's impossible to debate anything with you. At least Soren would listen to the points I was making.

Once again, I am not swayed by anything that a person says just because of his or her qualifications. I want to see the evidence and make my own appraisal based on scientific facts. Without that testing mechanism, it's just an opinin.  

On the other hand, your approach is - I know what the answer is, let's find something I can cut and paste from so I can reinforce that answer.  You like opinions, as long as they agree with yours.

Have you ever actually changed your mind on anything in your entire life, Grendel?
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Reply #4 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 9:00pm
 
Actually you have it completely arse about.

I just cant understand that.

I cant see how a person who professes to be intelligent can be so wrong.
Unless he's actually a dumbass.

Now like I said...  I am not hanging around here again...  I'll drop in occassionally as I have in the past, but as long as the moron Skippy is here I don't feel inclined to be trolled from topic to topic and have him ruin it for everyone just because he's obsessed.

As for you...  do you ever ask yourself how you can be so wrong?

Now today is still Friday and after Friday unless there is something really compelling to start a discussion on...  I'm outa here.

Lets hope Copenhagen...  is a disaster eh.  because you and I both know all it is is a cash grab by poorer nations and despots  and a milchecow for bankers in the first-world.

Oh and stop lying to Tom and being dishonest.  you and I both know dissenters weren't invited to the "big" Copenhagen conference.  can'yt have that now can we dissent and a balanced pov...  tsk tsk tsk...  not allowed.
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Reply #5 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 9:44pm
 
You go and have alook at the relpies on any Denialsit site, and see the nutcases that go on about conspiracies, and new world orders, and maybe you may find you would be more comfortable just agreeing with them, you do not require any thought or knowledge, just hold an absolutely intransigent, and totally extremist opinion and you are one of the gang.

Sounds like a perfect fit for your post ON persona.

Who would have thought the demise of pauline would leave so many fringe dwellers looking for a home?
Well most impartial observers would I guess, but at least they can commune with kindred spirits.
Have fun in your fact free zones over at the heartland institute and prison planet.
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Reply #6 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 10:37pm
 
mozzoak, just stop, is that your only response ever?  Conspiracy theorist, you are the perfect fit for a denialist.  This has nothing to do with prisonplanet.  The world government is what is happening at Copenhagen, are you going to refute the politicians own words and their own treaty?

I'm out of this place, like Grendel said it is pointless arguing with the posters on this forum like muso and especially mozzaok and skippy.  You get more from a brick wall.
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Reply #7 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 10:55pm
 
hmmm  10 to Saturday...  one last comment for the eternally ignorant mozza.

mantra already posted good information here about the Un.

The treaty in its original form was a travesty.  And Tom and mantra have been spot on in their interpretations of it and various UN documents.

I guess you never even read it eh Mozz...  nothing unusual in that.  Just total hypocrisy.

And blind bloody minded denialism  Which again makes you a first class hypocrite.

Well merry Xmas to you Mozz.

Bye all...  not much chance of you saying anything in the next 5 mins to need replying to.  Roll Eyes  I hope.
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Reply #8 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 11:40pm
 
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The world government is what is happening at Copenhagen, are you going to refute the politicians own words and their own treaty?


I am not going to say whether I'm a denialist or an advocate, but what I do believe is that Tom is right. Copenhagen is all about officially forming a one world government and many of the wealthier nations attending don't give a stuff about climate change, although that's the rubbish we've been fed.

I have said for a long time that the Trilateral Commission/IMF/World Bank are behind this, as they have been with many schemes over the last 30 years.

It is either extreme capitalism as its best or worse - communism. Man made global warming is taking a back seat at this Summit. The treaty our government will sign will obligate us to pay a net 2% of our GDP - minimum, then that will be taxed by the World Bank before it is "distributed" to needier nations - or so we're being told. It wouldn't surprise me if the alleged figure of 2% ends up being a lot higher.
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Reply #9 - Dec 12th, 2009 at 1:46am
 
Tom definitely has a point about Mozzaok's argumentative style. He tends to argue by calling everybody else a conspiracy nut or by immediately dismissing the points of others (without actually refuting them) as outdated and ridiculous; he did this with me frequently when I first registered.
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Reply #10 - Dec 12th, 2009 at 9:25am
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 11th, 2009 at 10:55pm:
Bye all...  not much chance of you saying anything in the next 5 mins to need replying to.  Roll Eyes  I hope.

And that was the final in our series "What's up Grendel's Arse".

Tune in for our next series of the Grendel sagas... "Grendel - I'm Back And I'm Pissed Off".

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Reply #11 - Dec 12th, 2009 at 9:41am
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 11th, 2009 at 9:00pm:
Now like I said...  I am not hanging around here again...


Aw! Can't you stay? We'll all miss you  Kiss

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Reply #12 - Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:33am
 
Now that's mean Helian and Muso. People enjoy arguing with Grendel and you can't blame him for getting frustrated at times.

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Reply #13 - Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:44am
 
mantra wrote on Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:33am:
Now that's mean Helian and Muso. People enjoy arguing with Grendel and you can't blame him for getting frustrated at times.


It wasn't mean, Mantra.

We're all used to Grendel's emotional grand exits and returns to forums.
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Reply #14 - Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:58am
 
Yes Mantra. I must apologise. Grendel is really not a bad person. He has many positive attributes, which no-doubt appeal to those with sensitive well developed maternal instincts, but I won't dwell on his good features, because he might come back.

Well I will list one good feature of his - He never stays around for very long.
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