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EVIDENCE THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM? (Read 46876 times)
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Reply #75 - Feb 8th, 2010 at 8:43pm
 
muso wrote on Feb 7th, 2010 at 8:58am:
So the next time you're on holiday near the sea and there's an impending  Tsunami, we won't make lots of noise to wake you up. That would just be bloody arrogant, and probably condescending too. After all, you understand that these are just natural events, they have happened before, and lots of foreign people got killed. Besides, how could we possibly understand the science behind it? Earthquakes are a complex natural system and we really need to do more study before taking such drastic action as waking you up, and besides,  everybody knows that we can't predict the future anyway.  

We'll just send you a nice, polite, politically correct email, because we know how much you love political correctness.  Wink


Your natural retort will be that we don't cause earthquakes. So does that make the science of prediction any more acceptable for you? Is scientific prediction reserved for naturally occurring events only where homosapiens is not complicit?



This analogy makes the same kind of category mistakes that all your other ones do - the banana weighing, the thermometer up a rat's arse, the drinking of poison and the rest. 

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Reply #76 - Feb 9th, 2010 at 10:49am
 
No - I think it's a really good analogy. You accept scientific knowledge only where it is convenient to do so.
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Reply #77 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:38am
 
The one graph that rules them all: tracking the rejection of AGW.

http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/files/2010/02/AGW_hockey_stick_graph_big.gif
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Reply #78 - Mar 2nd, 2010 at 11:48am
 
Not much to be gained by arguing with deniers!

Suggest join the NewAustralia Party instead. Currently membership is free.

We are promoting a revenue neutral tax swap as a way to provide an appropriate carbon price without having a massive net tax rise or bogus 'ETS'.

Our web site is here: www.NewAustralia.net.

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Reply #79 - Mar 2nd, 2010 at 1:28pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:38am:
The one graph that rules them all: tracking the rejection of AGW.

http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/files/2010/02/AGW_hockey_stick_graph_big.gif


Thanks Soren Lorenson. Possibly even less authoritative than a Lord Monckton powerpoint slide, but certainly every bit as colourful! Maybe they should have incorporated that ever so tasteful House of Lords logo.
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Reply #80 - Mar 2nd, 2010 at 3:01pm
 
Well how timely, with even Homer telling us "statistics don't prove anything, 74% of people know that".

But the sad fact is that he may be right, I was listening to talkback the other evening and the idiotic droning of denialists was incessant, with nary a sensible view in sight.

As they say in the classics, nobody ever went broke from underestimating the intelligence of the average punter.
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Reply #81 - Mar 2nd, 2010 at 3:42pm
 
Strange how it always comes back to a contempt for the people.

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Reply #82 - Mar 3rd, 2010 at 1:16pm
 
Yes soren lorenson, at least your contempt is not so broadly directed. You of course reserve your contempt for science, scientists, their research and their publications.
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Reply #83 - Mar 3rd, 2010 at 7:43pm
 
Paella wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 1:16pm:
Yes soren lorenson, at least your contempt is not so broadly directed. You of course reserve your contempt for science, scientists, their research and their publications.


Wrong, as usual (are you conferring with Abu? I am detecting the same tendency of always getting the wrong end of the stick. I suggest you try going against your instinct when presented with a conundrum. You'll find you'll be right every time from then on.)

Scientists hiding their political agendas as if they were not political - that's what I don't like. But this appears to be a far too fine a distinction for your mind. Scientists can research away, as far as I am concerned. Pay them double. But they have no special place in politics.

ANd what's with the lorenson tag? Attempt at humour?


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Reply #84 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:05am
 
If you believe a scientific paper has been influenced by a political agenda, you should review the paper, present some evidence and publish your findings.

Or you could just cite someone else who has.

But oh, there isn't anyone.

If you want to know about soren lorenson, you could google it. But I strongly suggest that you google "scientific method" first.
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Reply #85 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:19am
 
Paella wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:05am:
If you believe a scientific paper has been influenced by a political agenda, you should review the paper, present some evidence and publish your findings.

Or you could just cite someone else who has.

But oh, there isn't anyone.



The various recent debunkings have evidently bypassed you.
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Reply #86 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:24am
 
Paella wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:05am:
If you want to know about soren lorenson, you could google it.



Ahh, sorry, didn't realise you were still in short pants, your imagination captured by the idea of imaginary friends.
Good for you. Never lose that innocence.





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Reply #87 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 6:08pm
 
If you are aware of a published & peer reviewed "debunking", as you call it, please post a link to it.

I can help if you want, because I know of some. Of course, there will inevitably be a few, because scientific measurements can only be stated as a range with a stated confidence level.

So, if you state a conclusion with a 99% confidence interval, that seems pretty solid doesn't it? BUT if there are, say 2000 such reports, twenty of them will reach a false conclusion. TWENTY!

For this reason, if you reach a conclusion that seems to contradict existing theories, you do more research, gather new evidence and test that evidence.

Unless, of course, you are unscrupulous and realise that you can obtain a benefit from your probable false conclusion. But that would never happen would it now Professor Plimer?

Then of course if you need a particular conclusion that just happens to be ... like ... wrong, all you need to do is keep running your tests until you get a false positive. Then discard all the others and publish that one. Now that wouldn't happen, would it. Philip Morris, for example, would never have commissioned that sort of research would they. Oh, what's that? They did. OK, I'm sure that the oil, gas and coal companies wouldn't do it. Would they?

But never mind, take comfort in the fact that if something (such as this explanation) goes way over your head, you can always just dismiss it as elitist nonsense.
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Reply #88 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:23pm
 
Paella wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 6:08pm:
But never mind, take comfort in the fact that if something (such as this explanation) goes way over your head, you can always just dismiss it as elitist nonsense.



Thanks, I wondered what the discomfort in the neck was. I feel better, now that I know.


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Reply #89 - Mar 5th, 2010 at 12:01am
 
I'll keep waiting for you to post that link soren lorenson.

And waiting,

and waiting.

Really, I could help you out on that you know. But of course, someone as learned in the physical sciences as yourself wouldn't need my help, would they?

... and waiting ...
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