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Reply #15 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 11:06am
 

member , it is early winter there. Not full winter yet.


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Heavy snow has blanketed much of the central United States following a massive winter storm that left residents battling frigid temperatures and icy roads.

Some parts of Michigan and Ohio are expected to get up to a metre of snow as the system which has battered the country since Sunday makes its way northwards up into Canada.

"This one came roaring through, it came in off the west coast, started really getting put together in Utah and then just blasted across the plains," Pat Slattery, a spokesman for the National Weather Service, said on Thursday.

"As the system moves through, back behind it all this Arctic air came pouring south out of Canada and sweeping across the plains."

High winds were creating blizzard-like conditions even in areas where the snow had stopped falling by pulling snow drifts up off the ground, Slattery told AFP.

Those winds were also adding a bitter bite to the already freezing winter air, complicating efforts to dig out from under the heavy snow.

Wind chills were forecast to range from minus 26 to minus 34 degrees celsius from Wyoming to Wisconsin and even Iowa and Missouri for the next few days.

The biggest snowfalls - as much as 150 cm - were recorded in the mountainous areas of Colorado and Utah.

But 17 states from California to New Hampshire saw anywhere from 30 to 120 cm of snow and strong winds created drifts as high as 4.6 metres.

Schools were closed, hundreds of flights were cancelled and thousands of people lost power after strong winds brought down lines.

Major roads were completely blocked by the drifts and blowing snow, which defeated snow ploughs as the icy conditions made driving hazardous.

Cars and even big trucks were sliding off the road and getting stuck in ditches.

Stranded motorists were waiting at least a couple hours to be rescued during the height of the storm in Iowa, where the National Guard was called in to help after the state was blanketed with 22 to 41 cm of snow.

While most of the major streets and highways were cleared on Thursday, many rural residents remained trapped in their homes while waiting for the ploughs to clear back roads.

"It was a lot of snow. So today it's the aftermath, continuing to dig out for a lot of people," said Courtney Green, a spokeswoman for Iowa Department of Public Safety.

"Things are bitterly, bitterly cold. It's like the snow squeaks when you walk on it, it's that cold."



http://www.smh.com.au/environment/snowblanketed-us-battles-freezing-winds-and-ic...
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Reply #16 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 5:12pm
 
Damn - they got a cold spell in the US, that must mean it's a scam. Oh well, I suppose I'd better throw the laws of physics away.

Talk among yourselves. I'm just going to boil the kettle to make some ice. Then I'm going to set my perpetual motion machine working so that it gives me free electricity. I saw that on an internet blog too, so it must be true.  Grin
http://www.slideshare.net/watsonfru/magniwork-generator-review

But then I have to catch a gravity powered flight to Sydney :
http://www.fuellessflight.com/
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Reply #17 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:07pm
 
Damn, I want me one of them anti gravity planes.

Mind you we could just get all the denialists to talk into collection tubes and run zeppelins off the emmissions.
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Reply #18 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 10:26am
 
AUSTRALIA faces having to make a hefty payout to help developing countries such as China and India cope with climate change in order to clinch a deal in Copenhagen.

Despite Australia facing a domestic Budget deficit of about $50 billion for the coming year, Climate Change Minister Penny Wong told The Sunday Mail from Copenhagen that Australia would have to contribute to so-called climate "abatement" funds if India and China were to come into the climate-change tent.



China has a trillion dollar trade surplus with the world stuck in its socks. And we have to give the frigging aid.

To the warmerists - you had to be naive or stupid not to have had an inkling for some time that this whole 'we'll be rooned' caper was about money. ANd now, you can see that your incontinent alarmisms has led to Antropogenic Global Corruption on a massive scale.

European carbon trade in the hands of organised crime


Elsewhere in the news:
India's steel giant will reap $1.2 billion of your money in credits for more than dounbling poroducytion, as long as they do it in India.

What is the connection between Dr Rajendra Pachauri, the Indian railway engineer who has been much in evidence at the Copenhagen climate conference, as chairman of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and an Indian-owned steel company's decision to mothball its giant Teesside steel works next month, ripping the heart out of the town of Redcar by putting 1,700 people out of work?

Find out here.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6798052/What-lin...

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Dr Pachauri's other main job, apart from being chairman of the IPCC, is as director-general of the Tata Energy Research Institute, funded by Tata [the Indian steel giant] , which he has run since 1981.






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Reply #19 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 11:25am
 
While I may share your concerns about just who gets our money, the statement that this is all about money is just not true, it is about trying to mitigate what we can, to the best of our abilities, the negative outcomes that we are likely to see from global warming.

The issues are seperate, and unfortunately, somewhat interdependent, but bad politicians does not negate the weight of scientific evidence that tells us we do need to act now.


If we had better leaders, we could expect better outcomes from things like Copenhagen, but we are stuck with the ones we have, and must still try and see that they do what is needed, without misdirecting too many resources into areas they should not go.

If we could stop wasting time and resources to try and educate people who refuse to listen about the realities of global warming, we could spend more time trying to get politicians to seek realistic solutions.
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Reply #20 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:59pm
 
While I have absolutely no doubt that continuing to burn fossil fuels at the current rate will lead to dangerous climate change, I can see how this double standard for emission levels for developing countries could be manipulated by multinationals so that the emissions are simply moved to developing countries rather than the West. 

This is a travesty,  and I can see why Kevin Trenberth and James Hansen have recently spoken out against the COP15 conference.

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Reply #21 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 2:46pm
 
It's not the multinationals. It's the Kevins, Als, Gordons and Tones (Blair) and the rest of the political class who are responsible.

They have been stupid enough to listen to the warmerists (you guys), amplified by the hordes of media studies graduates that form the 'media' today - semi-literate 30 year olds looking for self-realisation and to 'make a difference'.

They have also been stupid or villanous enough (no great powers of predictions are needed to guess this) to come up with the most corruptable schemes. Any wonder that the thirdy-worldy rent-seekers have twigged and now it's gizza  job  more money all round, as usual. Climate justice, innit.




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Reply #22 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 3:11pm
 

soren - yes, I read about aussie giving china cash for the environment.
chinas one of the few countries in the world that has an ongoing surplus

Only a leftard would dream of such a self-flagellating way to help mother earth.
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Reply #23 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 10:58am
 


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Americans pining for a white Christmas got more than they bargained for as a record-breaking snowstorm closed airports and roadways across the north-eastern United States, putting a damper on the holiday's biggest shopping weekend.

In Europe, heavy snow and ice also caused travel chaos, as tens of thousands of European travellers were stranded on Sunday in rail stations, traffic jams and airports.

Just days before the December 25 holiday, the eastern seaboard from North Carolina to New England in the US was digging out on Sunday from the worst blizzard in years, which closed train and bus service, paralysed air traffic and left hundreds of thousands of residents without power in some areas.

Many churches cancelled Sunday services, as local officials urged residents to hunker down indoors as record snowfall wreaked havoc on the roadways.

And the storm was a blow to the already reeling retail sector, which had been counting on cash registers loudly ringing on the Saturday before Christmas - traditionally the busiest shopping day of the year -- to make up for weeks of lackluster sales.

"I think we can safely say that sales in the Washington region were crippled," Ellen Davis, vice president of the National Retail Federation, told AFP.

She said the impact of the inclement weather went far beyond just making it harder for customers to snap up holiday gifts.

Without shoppers out and about at shopping malls and along America's high streets "people weren't eating at restaurants, there wasn't any impulse buying," Davis said.

With some $US15 billion of all nationwide sales occurring on the last weekend before Christmas, many shoppers trying to make up for lost time were likely to confront closes stores, unplowed roads and limited transportation options.

But Davis said the impact of the blizzard on Christmas shopping would be felt differently across the country, depending on when the storm hit.

While Washington, which received a total of 40 centimetres of snow, woke up on Saturday swathed in a deep white blanket under clear skies, the flakes were flying at the same time in New York and points north.

"What we heard in New York is that couple of flurries get people more in the spirit of shopping," Davis told AFP.

As the monster storm barrelled northward, the National Weather Service on Sunday posted blizzard warnings for southern New England, including Boston.

"Heavy snow and strong winds could potentially cause localized whiteout conditions along the New England coast through early Sunday afternoon," the NWS said, predicting "local amounts of up to two feet (61 centimetres) possible where heavy snow persists the longest".

The storm at one point stretched some 800 kilometres across a dozen states, affecting around a quarter of the US population.

Much of the East Coast, home to tens of millions of Americans, turned into a winter wonderland, even if the conditions were as perilous as they were scenic.

The NWS said it was the heaviest snow storm ever to hit the US capital region so early in December, in an area where snow does not usually fall until January or later, if at all.
Three people died on Virginia roads Saturday as some 3000 accidents shut down interstates for several hours, according to the state's department of emergency management. The Virginia Department of Health confirmed one other storm-related death.

And bus service around the region ground as road remained in many places slippery at best and in other places totally unplowed, making movement still difficult, hours after the storm had moved on.

"There are huge piles of snow lining the edges of streets and blocking the bus stops," said John Catoe, the general manager of the Metropolitan Transit Authority.

The transit authority also operates the area's regional subway system in Washington, Virginia and Maryland ran trains underground train service only, closing 39 of the system's 86 stations.

Service slowly returned to the capital region's main airports after hundreds of flights were cancelled on Saturday, stranding thousands of passengers on one of the busiest travel weekends of the year.

The annual year-end holiday travel season that official began Saturday, December 19 and continues through Saturday, January 2, just after the New Year's holiday.

Meanwhile, Davis said that resourceful shoppers, rather than deferring their holiday purchases, likely would make up for lost time this week in the last few shopping days before Christmas on Friday.

"You might see more people choose to purchase gift cards," she said. "I would imagine there were people online all day yesterday as opposed to being out" at the shopping malls, she said.




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Nineteen dead in Europe


In Europe, at least 19 people froze to death, mainly in Poland and mostly homeless people or drinkers caught out in temperatures that were glacial across Europe, plunging as low as minus 33 Celsius in parts of Germany.

Forecasters across the continent are expecting more snow and freezing rain over the next couple of days, but with temperatures rising slightly and the outlook gradually improving in the run-up to Christmas Day on Friday.

Roads and railways were closed or disrupted by snow, black ice or floods across northern and western Europe from Portugal to the Netherlands, and flights from British, Belgian, Dutch, French and German airports delayed.

The most embarrassing scenes for transport operators hit cross-Channel transport between Britain and France, after the Eurostar passenger service from London to Paris was shut down following at least five breakdowns.

Eurostar, the operator of the Channel Tunnel passenger trains, admitted it could not say when services would resume, with more than 24,000 passengers attempting inter-city travel ahead of the Christmas break stranded.

The company said it would send test trains along the route to see if they can withstand the sub-zero temperatures in northern France, which are thought to have caused trains to break down in the tunnel late Friday.

"We did run two or three trains yesterday, they all got through the tunnel OK, but one or two of them showed symptoms of the problem that happened on Friday night," Eurostar director Richard Brown told the BBC.

French Euro MP Dominique Baudis said he would call for the European Commission to investigate after he and his family were among those stuck.

"The chain of events was an aberration. Eurostar's complete inertia was scandalous," he said, accusing the train operating firm of abandoning its passengers to their fate.

More than 2,000 passengers spent Friday night trapped in the undersea tunnel, some without anything to eat or drink. There were reports of heated disputes on board and some passengers bitterly criticised the company.

Approach roads to the ports of Dover and Calais were snarled by tail-backs because of heavy snow and queues of trucks waiting for delayed shuttle trains through the Channel Tunnel.

"Eurotunnel has advised us that waiting times are up to two hours at the terminal," Kent police Superintendent Matthew Nix said, warning car and truck drivers without reservations to stay away.

At Paris Charles de Gaulle airport 40 percent of flights were cancelled and the remaining services were leaving an average of one hour late, while the city's second airport Orly was the scene of a strike by security staff.

In the Belgian capital Brussels a flight was able to leave just after sunrise for Seville in Spain, but afterwards heavy snow forced authorities to halt all flights from airports in Brussels, Liege and Charleroi.

"We're putting everything into clearing the runway as quickly as possible, but it all depends on how the weather develops," a Brussels airport spokesman told AFP.

Heavy snowfall also closed Germany's third largest airport in the western city of Duesseldorf, authorities said, and in the Netherlands a dozen flights from Amsterdam Schipol were cancelled.

International Thalys trains between Brussels, Paris and Amsterdam were also delayed and Sunday football matches were cancelled as far south as Italy and across much of the north.

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Reply #25 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 3:19pm
 
Sprint mate, you can (and do) get cold snaps in a record hot year. It does happen.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Jan 8th, 2010 at 4:12pm
 

A "cold snap" ........... what constitutes a "chilly period" ?

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Northern Europe is bracing for what is expected to be the coldest day yet of the big freeze affecting the region.

Conditions have left many people dead and another Eurostar train has been stranded in the Channel Tunnel.

The icy weather has disrupted flights at airports in the UK, France, Ireland and the Netherlands.

In Germany, at least nine homeless men have frozen to death.

The Arctic freeze has seen temperatures in central Sweden plunge to between minus 30 and minus 40 degrees Celsius, the coldest weather in more than 25 years.
Gas supplies are running low in the UK where the national grid has had to start rationing supplies of energy.

Around 10,000 schools shut down in Britain and will not reopen until well into next week.

One Eurostar train arrived in London two hours late after breaking down in the Channel Tunnel, while four others were cancelled after snow got into the engines.

The average weather in Britain recently has been only 2 degrees warmer than the North Pole.




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Reply #27 - Jan 8th, 2010 at 4:29pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 8th, 2010 at 4:12pm:
A "cold snap" ........... what constitutes a "chilly period" ?

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Northern Europe is bracing for what is expected to be the coldest day yet of the big freeze affecting the region.

Conditions have left many people dead and another Eurostar train has been stranded in the Channel Tunnel.

The icy weather has disrupted flights at airports in the UK, France, Ireland and the Netherlands.

In Germany, at least nine homeless men have frozen to death.

The Arctic freeze has seen temperatures in central Sweden plunge to between minus 30 and minus 40 degrees Celsius, the coldest weather in more than 25 years.
Gas supplies are running low in the UK where the national grid has had to start rationing supplies of energy.

Around 10,000 schools shut down in Britain and will not reopen until well into next week.

One Eurostar train arrived in London two hours late after breaking down in the Channel Tunnel, while four others were cancelled after snow got into the engines.

The average weather in Britain recently has been only 2 degrees warmer than the North Pole.




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Sprint, I expected you were a bit smarter than that, if its cold in Europe its because its winter old son its called the weather,don't be like the confusionalist who thinks the weather and climate are the same.
The weather changes on a day to day week to week basis. The climate is measured over a period of at least thirty years, do you comprehend that? its pretty simple really.
How about this, Sydney is a temperate city, climate change could well turn it into a sub tropical city, are you with me yet? now that dosn't mean its going to happen on the 7-7 2012 mate, its not going to happen over night, but it will happen. So dont expect to wake up tomorrow and see crocs in Brisbane river, that'll take a few years yet.In the meantime ,dont throw out your ugg boots.
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Reply #28 - Jan 8th, 2010 at 4:37pm
 

Sorry skippy, I am not that smart gullible.

if there is global warming, should the globe be getting warmer?
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Reply #29 - Jan 8th, 2010 at 4:42pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 8th, 2010 at 4:37pm:
Sorry skippy, I am not that smart gullible.

if there is global warming, should the globe be getting warmer?


Yes, it is. But you re acting very fukcing stupid if you keep confusing the weather with climate change, maybe that NZ education just isn't up to scratch old mate.
I do have to laugh at a kiwi saying they may be gullible though, I'm sure your mob invented the word.
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