Ah well... Maybe a drunken rampage across continental Europe over Christmas will cheer them up... It usually does...

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 8^th, 2009 at 8:32am:



The younger Brits (men at least) seem to target Estonia and Latvia these days. The price of living is low, and the women are 'available'.

I stayed in a fairly affluent region when I was there this year (NE Scotland), so all I saw was optimism.

Sprint - It's much like Kiwis in terms of the weather influence. They love to winge too. Of course, they have the added problem of Selenium deficiency. They just drop like flies when a mild cold does the rounds  

They can't handle the heat either. Anything above 25 and - Oh shut! we'll hev ta turn the ear condutioning on  

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mantra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2009 at 8:42am:



mantra,

Looking at the general state of the 'West', i woulda put the figure of mental illness as being much, much, higher.

Mankind, is on a slippery slope, and everybody, is trying so hard, to enjoy the 'ride' down,
....to the lowest moral common denominator.         

How low can we go???

Godless creatures.

Reaping, what we have chosen to sow.






2 Timothy 3:1
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

That description, doesn't sound at all, like the world that mankind has made, does it!
/sarc off



Matthew 24:32
Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Psalms 1:1
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2009 at 1:34pm:




sprint,

Only so much as you are speaking to the symptom.

While i presume to speak to the cause.



....but i realise, that my opinion is not respected.

Yadda, the village loon.       

and they say it is the lowest form of wit?
I can't agree, I often find it hilarious.

I also cannot agree with the findings of the study about brits, now I have not been there for nearly 30 years, but I doubt the "basic' Psychology of a nation would have altered that dramatically.
I found brits to be pretty fatalistic, but also madly keen for a bit of fun, and the party life is great.
Girls are pretty, and friendly, guys are up for a chat, or a drink, or a game of cricket or footy, in fact, they were pretty bloody much like us aussies, so if some wacker wants to try and portray them as something other than that, then either things have dramatically changed for the worse, or he is stretching the bounds of credibility.

I would agree with the strust of that report.

I would suggest that our current condition, the malaise of our 'Western' culture, worldwide, is the result of, our wholesale renunciation of those influences which laid down the 'foundations', and guided, our adopted cultural mores.

But in recent decades we [in the 'West'] have chosen to renounce the Judaeo-Christian influences which motivated, and ispired our forefathers.

Q.
Why have we chosen to do that?

e.g. abandoning our respect for such things as the Bible, which i would argue, played no small role, in inspiring our forefathers love of truth and justice.      see #1 below

I would argue, that the content of, and the principles, which the Bible contains was the 'ROCK' of our confidence, and our success [as individuals].

But no more.

Today, we have lost THAT inner confidence, which comes from respect for the TRUTH.



It seems arguable [to me at least!] that our former [and formerly held in high regard], Juedeo-Christian culture and its moral influences, which we looked to, for societal guidance, indeed served us well.

And that those inherent principles [of seeking truth and justice, and abhorring falsehood and cruelty] which foundation Judaeo-Christian culture so strongly embraces, helped to secure many of the public institutions which were subsequently established, institutions which we have come to recognise, as underpinning our societal stability.

But today, many of us have come to abhor [with a hatred!] those 'beginnings', which had such an influence upon our success as individuals, and as a culture.

Is this because we, today, have judged that those sound moral principles, that we learned / inherited from our forebears and which served them [and us!] well, are no longer needed, perhaps because those 'old fashioned' moral principles are now regarded as 'inconvenient', to us???



#1
While our culture in the past was never a perfect one, our forefathers at least aspired to the high ideals and principles, which are clearly enunciated within the Judaeo-Christian 'ethic'.