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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #60 - Jan 15^th, 2010 at 2:28pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15^th, 2010 at 12:23pm:

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OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott has started his election-year pitch as an environmentalist by threatening a referendum to take control of the Murray-Darling basin and proposing a 15,000-strong ''green army'' to tackle land degradation.

Putting aside the vexed issue of climate until the Coalition has forged its policy, Mr Abbott admitted the environment would be a vote-changer, but said the debate should be ''much more than an argument over climate change''.

''The political left shouldn't be seen as 'owning' the environment,'' he said. ''And I am determined to challenge any assumption that it does.

''Conservative political parties and the conservationist movement both want to preserve what's best in our heritage,'' he told the Sydney Institute in his initial policy speech as leader.........

http://images.theage.com.au/2010/01/15/1039991/st_abbott-420x0.jpg

Yea right, I had a chat to Tony this morning on his blog(in the Sydney Tele for those interested) when I challenged tony on his new found love for all thing Green and Aboriginal Tony's reply was "well skippy go out and buy my book" some leader, he's more interested in book sales.
He must be still bitching about not earning enough now that he is a member of the opposition.
i read a story yesterday that Turnbull is in the USA discussing leadership of parties both here and there, I'll bet you a twenty dollar lottery ticket that Mal will be the Leader again of the Libs, THIS YEAR.
Mal already has the numbers, the old biddy who was too sick to vote at the last spill is a Turnbull supporter, as are the two new members from the by elections held late last year.
SEE YA TONY.

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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #61 - Jan 27^th, 2010 at 9:42am

sex therapist agrees with Abbotts "conservative" views.
Sort of makes gillard look lika an idiot or a "loose" woman

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TONY Abbott's public foray into sexual politics will "confirm the worst fears of Australian women", the Deputy Prime Minister says.

As the Opposition Leader yesterday defended an interview he gave with The Australian Women's Weekly in which he referred to a woman's virginity as a "gift", he came under fire from Australian women, including Julia Gillard, many of whom found his comments old-fashioned, unwelcome and obtrusive.

Ms Gillard -- once criticised by Mr Abbott for lacking "broader lifetime experience" -- said Australian women, "don't want to be lectured by Mr Abbott".

"These comments will confirm the worst fears of Australian women about Tony Abbott. Australian women don't want to be told what to do by Tony Abbott," she said.

In The Australian Women's Weekly article, Mr Abbott said he would advise his three daughters not to give away their virginity "lightly" and try to adhere to the "rules" on sex before marriage.

Defending his comments on Melbourne 3AW radio yesterday, the Opposition Leader said one's virginity was "the greatest gift" you could give someone.

"(Women) shouldn't give themselves away lightly," the former Catholic seminarian said.

But he added, "I'm not trying to be a preacher."

Mamamia blogger Mia Freedman said while Mr Abbott's remarks were not surprising coming from a father of three daughters, they were highly conservative.

"It's scary when politicians start making pronouncements about what women should do with their bodies," she said yesterday.

"What about men -- do they also have a gift to bestow?"

Author and academic Catharine Lumby said Mr Abbott's comments harked back to an era when women, "were shamed and blamed for having a normal sexual appetite and behaviour."

"A huge concern I have about this valuing of (female) virtue is that it is tied to a kind of sexual currency," Professor Lumby said.

But as many angry women took to the internet to vent at Mr Abbott's remarks, the Opposition Leader found support from author and sex therapist Bettina Arndt.

"If we were to grill a range of male politicians about their sexual views and their attitudes towards their daughters' sexuality, we would find many who are less comfortable and thoughtful than Tony Abbott.

"I think many people admire his willingness to speak openly about his personal life, his mistakes and his attempts to reconcile his personal moral beliefs with what he knows to be reality of women's lives."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/abbott-confirms-lwomens-worst-fears/story-e...

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Reply #62 - Jan 27^th, 2010 at 1:34pm

I hope Turnbull establishes his own party or becomes the leader of the Libs. I really don't want to vote for a party led by Rudd or Abbott at the moment. I think saying that giving one's virginity is "the greatest gift" is a really awful thing to say. What about commitment for life? Isn't that much more important? Also, the way he said it implied this would only apply to women. Sexist much?

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Reply #63 - Jan 27^th, 2010 at 5:09pm

Hlysnan wrote on Jan 27^th, 2010 at 1:34pm:

I hope Turnbull establishes his own party or becomes the leader of the Libs. I really don't want to vote for a party led by Rudd or Abbott at the moment. I think saying that giving one's virginity is "the greatest gift" is a really awful thing to say. What about commitment for life? Isn't that much more important? Also, the way he said it implied this would only apply to women. Sexist much?

He's is saying to his daughters, don't bugger around just because it is made out to be cool. He can't quite say to them, bugger around for 10-15 years and then see if you can find a bloke for lifelong commitment. Would you say that to your daughters?

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Reply #65 - Jan 27^th, 2010 at 8:18pm

Hlysnan wrote on Jan 27^th, 2010 at 6:52pm:

Of course I would oppose sex before marriage, but to say that virginity is the greatest gift, it just doesn't sound like the right thing to say. And since he's making a public statement he should be more gender neutral. That's just my opinion.

He's got three daughters. He was asked what he would say to them. You don't have to be SO reflexively looking for gender neutrality/inclusiveness ALL the time. He is obviously hoping his daughters won't be seking gender reassignment so he does not speak about/to them in he/she terms. Is that offensive to the transgender community?

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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #66 - Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 8:45am

Abbott's flogging kruddy.
maybe it is his honest answers, direct fatherhood to his daughters, trashing krudds ETS or that he is in good shape himself.
or is it that kruddy is a constant loser ??

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TONY Abbott's opposition to the Rudd government's emissions trading scheme appears to have lifted the Coalition to its best position since the 2007 election loss, and Kevin Rudd's personal support is at its lowest since he became Prime Minister.

The electoral turnaround has occurred since the collapse of the Copenhagen climate change conference, and Mr Rudd yesterday warned his parliamentary colleagues that Labor "could lose the next election".

Today, the Coalition releases its own plan to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 2020 without an ETS or a carbon tax, while the government introduces an ETS that was rejected by all non-Labor senators in December.
The Liberal Party and Coalition primary votes are at their highest levels since John Howard lost government, and Labor's 10-point two-party preferred lead at the beginning of December has been cut to just four points, 52 per cent to 48 per cent.
According to the latest Newspoll survey, conducted last weekend exclusively for The Australian, the Liberal Party's primary vote rose three percentage points to 37 per cent - its highest since the election; the Coalition's vote was 41 per cent compared with Labor's unchanged 40 per cent two weeks ago. Although the primary vote difference is within the margin of error, it is the first time the Coalition has been in front of Labor on primary vote, and the two-party-preferred margin is the equal closest since 2007.

Mr Rudd's personal standing has continued to fall, with his satisfaction rating dropping two points to 50 per cent last weekend - a decline of nine percentage points since the start of November; dissatisfaction jumped four points to 38 per cent, his highest level as Prime Minister.

While the Coalition vote rose, dissatisfaction with the Leader of the Opposition rose four points to 39 per cent reflecting a six point rise in dissatisfaction among females following Mr Abbott's comments on virginity.

Mr Rudd continued to dominate Mr Abbott as the preferred prime minister by 58 per cent to 26 per cent. But Mr Abbott's 26 per cent as preferred prime minister is equal to Malcolm Turnbull's best figure in September 2008.

Yesterday, Mr Rudd told a meeting of Labor MPs this year's parliamentary sitting would be a "tough year" and that Labor "could certainly lose the election".

One Labor MP said Mr Rudd told the MPs: "If you looked at history with [Bob Hawke in] 1984 and Howard in 1998, it showed they had a particularly tough time during their first time at re-election".

Since Mr Abbott replaced Mr Turnbull in December and dumped Liberal support for Labor's Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme and the Copenhagen talks collapsed, Labor's primary vote has fallen three points, its two-party preferred vote has fallen four points and dissatisfaction with Mr Rudd has risen six points to a high of 38 per cent.
Mr Abbott continued to campaign against the ETS, describing it as a "great big new tax".

Climate Change Minister Penny Wong backed Mr Rudd's claim that the Coalition's climate change plan would involve a "megatax".

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/tony-abbott-keeps-pulling-back-labors-l...

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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #67 - Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 12:08pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 8:45am:

Abbott's flogging kruddy.
maybe it is his honest answers, direct fatherhood to his daughters, trashing krudds ETS or that he is in good shape himself.
or is it that kruddy is a constant loser ??

Direct fatherhood to his daughters?

Been doing some research? Don't get caught stealing his washing off the line.

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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #68 - Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 2:41pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 12:08pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 8:45am:

Abbott's flogging kruddy.
maybe it is his honest answers, direct fatherhood to his daughters, trashing krudds ETS or that he is in good shape himself.
or is it that kruddy is a constant loser ??

Direct fatherhood to his daughters?

Been doing some research? Don't get caught stealing his washing off the line.

Or from the basket. You'd find some interesting stains in there.

Abbott's just the type to get caught up in some sordid, stilletto heel licking, catfood-eating sex scandal that blows his pious "credibility" to Kingdom cum.

It's a pity the electorate is too superficial to elect a hard-core fetishist to high office. We need more submissives in control.

I'm sure the public service would enjoy a well-earned break, anyway.

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