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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #45 - Dec 11th, 2009 at 11:33am
 


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Is this Tony Abbott a few years ago ???"

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No this was... silks purse = sows ear ?..mmm nah.


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Reply #46 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 10:25am
 


Abbott already has ruddydudd running scared.

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KEVIN Rudd has refused to directly address Tony Abbott's claim that Labor's proposed carbon emissions trading system will cost average Australian families $1100 a year.

Instead, the Prime Minister has forecast a Coalition government's response to climate change would wrap Australians in red tape by allowing Canberra bureaucrats to dictate individual behaviour.

In a television interview yesterday, Mr Rudd was asked three times to respond to Mr Abbott's $1100 claim, which has been at the centre of the Opposition Leader's political attack since he won the Liberal leadership a fortnight ago.

Each time, he refused to address the figure.

Later yesterday, as Mr Rudd prepared to leave Australia for the UN-organised climate change conference in Copenhagen, Mr Abbott accused him of squirming on questions about his "great big new tax".

Since ousting Malcolm Turnbull, Mr Abbott has turned the ETS debate on its head by targeting its effect on family budgets.

Yesterday, Mr Rudd was questioned extensively on the hip-pocket impacts of the ETS when interviewed on Sky News.

Asked about the $1100 claim, Mr Rudd said a 5 per cent reduction in carbon emissions would involve a one-off effect on the cost of living of between 1.1 per cent and 1.9 per cent.

"We would then provide 100 to 120 per cent compensation for all low-income earners -- anyone under $60,000," Mr Rudd said.

"In between $60,000 and $160,000, we will provide partial compensation.

"The net result is that 90 per cent of all Australians will be partially or fully compensated."

Pressed for a ballpark figure, Mr Rudd said: "The reason I have used these forms of compensation formula for you is that every set of families' circumstances will differ according to its income."

Asked again to address Mr Abbott's claims, Mr Rudd repeated his earlier comments.

The Prime Minister then counter-attacked, insisting that Mr Abbott's proposal to address climate change through direct regulatory intervention, rather than a market-based mechanism, such as an ETS, would be expensive and ineffective.

"He'll have a team of commonwealth government bureaucrats telling small business across Australia what they can and can't do," he said.

"He'll have commonwealth bureaucrats saying to farmers what they can grow, commonwealth bureaucrats saying to small businessmen what trucks they can buy, commonwealth bureaucrats in Canberra regulating every aspect of the economy. That's what direct intervention is."

Mr Abbott hit back later yesterday, telling reporters the ETS was a tax that Mr Rudd was attempting to disguise as an environmental policy.



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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #47 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 3:14pm
 

Go Spartacus !!!!!!!!!!

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TONY Abbott is the Spartacus of Australian politics. No longer content to be slaves in Kevin Rudd's victory procession, the Liberal heartland has found its Spartacus and revolted. Most Liberals feel energised by the leadership change and dare to dream of winning the next election. So far the polls have not moved but that gives Abbott plenty of runway. It is unlikely that people have made up their minds about him.
He knows that the odds are against him winning so early in the life of a new government. The key to Abbott's approach is that he is a guerilla fighter. The phrase loyal opposition is to him an oxymoron. No quarter will be given and none is expected.

Abbott is not predictable and will deliver plenty of light and shade. One minute he will be ridiculing the Prime Minister and all his works. Next minute he will flick the switch to serious thinker, including on thorny topics such as indigenous disadvantage. Abbott has used his time in opposition productively to write his part autobiography-part manifesto Battlelines.

He is sustained by strong beliefs and is comfortable in his own skin. He is offering the electorate a contest based on character and not polling or research. Like all guerillas, he has the luxury of picking and choosing when and where to attack. Governments prefer to get their opponents in the open and blast them away. In Abbott's hands, incumbency is a negative as government decisions create new targets for the opposition to attack..........



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Reply #48 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 9:32am
 

Spartacus is on the offensive.
With so many openings, Tonys toughest choice is only which one to hit first.

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THE Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, is expected to press for a referendum on health funding reform, putting the heat on the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, over his pledge to fix public hospitals.

The Coalition is preparing to go to the next election with a promise to overhaul health funding. Its policy will include plans for direct federal funding of new local health and hospital boards, rather than funding through state governments.

The referendum push will be part of Mr Abbott's strategy to challenge Mr Rudd's credibility on his promise to ''seek a mandate'' at the next election for a federal takeover of public hospitals if the states failed to agree to his reform plans.

The Opposition health spokesman, Peter Dutton, is believed to have won approval for the plan from shadow cabinet while Malcolm Turnbull was leader.

Mr Abbott, who as health minister in the Howard government repeatedly described health funding as ''a dog's breakfast'', has told colleagues he supports the plan.

After winning the leadership this month he dismissed as ''another fudge'' Mr Rudd's pledge to seek a mandate for a federal takeover if necessary.

But Mr Abbott has opposed a direct federal takeover of health funding. The Coalition would seek to avoid shifting detailed funding decisions from state governments to Canberra.

Instead, federal health funding would be directed to local hospital boards so decisions could be made close to where services were delivered............



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Reply #49 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 3:54am
 



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TONY Abbott says he will turn asylum-seeker boats back out to sea if the Coalition wins the next election, accusing Kevin Rudd of lacking the "steel" to fulfil his promise to do the same.
As authorities intercepted another refugee boat - the 59th this year - the Opposition Leader said asylum-seekers must know what a risky business it was coming to Australia by boat.

Mr Abbott attacked the Prime Minister over his lack of "steel" in handling the issue.

"If the circumstances permit it, you've got to be prepared to turn boats around," Mr Abbott told The Australian yesterday. "John Howard was fiercely criticised for this. Nevertheless, Kevin Rudd said he would be more than tough enough to turn boats around were he prime minister, but he singularly failed to show any steel whatsoever since becoming our leader."

The Opposition Leader's comments were accompanied by a fresh broadside against the Rudd government's proposed emissions trading system. Mr Abbott challenged Mr Rudd to release Treasury modelling on who would be worse off under the scheme.

"Given that this is dribbling out piecemeal, I think it's high time that Mr Rudd came clean with the Australian people," Mr Abbott said.

The remarks prompted a government counter-attack, with Acting Climate Change Minister Peter Garrett challenging Mr Abbott to provide evidence for his claim the ETS would cost the average household an extra $1100 a year. Mr Abbott's comments on boats echo a promise made by Mr Rudd in the dying days of the 2007 election campaign. "You'd turn them back," Mr Rudd said of approaching asylum boats. In the interview, given to The Australian, Mr Rudd acknowledged such an approach was contentious, but emphasised the importance of deterrence. "Deterrence is effective through the detention system but also your preparedness to take appropriate action as the vessels approach Australian waters on the high seas," the then opposition leader said.

Mr Abbott acknowledged the electoral potency of the asylum-seeker issue, saying the spike in boat arrivals had registered in the electorate.

Perhaps in a measure of how the debate had evolved since the Tampa crisis of 2001, Mr Abbott indicated the refugee issue was unlikely to dominate next year's election campaign. "I think it's an important issue," the Liberal leader said. "I'm not saying it's the most important issue, I'm not saying it's necessarily a decisive issue.

"But I think it has been a significant issue in terms of illustrating the comparative weakness of Kevin Rudd as Prime Minister."...............


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Reply #50 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 7:12pm
 
Rudd ran and was elected as the non-Howard candidate. Two years down the track, it should not be enough. Rudd is a complete puff-ball. As it happens, he is Snowball to Gillard's (and the Left's) Napoleon.




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Reply #51 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 7:20pm
 

Gosh, that is good Soren.

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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #52 - Jan 12th, 2010 at 6:01pm
 



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OPPOSITION leader Tony Abbott has come out swinging in his campaign against the Bligh government's controversial Wild Rivers legislation, labelling Bligh's regime as "outrageous" and the Rudd government "cowardly" for not stepping in.
In Cairns this morning, Mr Abbott formally announced his intention to introduce a Private Member’s Bill to override the Wild Rivers legislation on Cape York, after his move was revealed by The Australian today.

Mr Abbott, flanked by Cape York traditional owners, said the Wild Rivers legislation - which declared the Archer, Lockhart and Stewart river systems on Cape York as wild rivers - was an "attack on the rights of Aboriginal people".

"(It will) suffocate at birth all proposals for economic development on Cape York," Mr Abbott said.



He said he will introduce the Private Member’s Bill when parliament resumes in February, but without the support of the Rudd government, it would die.

Mr Abbott said he would be appealing to Mr Rudd and Indigenous Affairs Minister Jenny Macklin to step in and let the bill live.




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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #53 - Jan 12th, 2010 at 11:19pm
 
Amadd wrote on Dec 6th, 2009 at 1:07am:
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We get the politicians we deserve.

If the nation truly wanted a working class party, instead of having an obsession with middle-class pretensions, then our society would respond by producing one.

To imagine any other is to cast ourselves as hapless victims of uncontrollable circumstance.



I agree with that to a certain extent Helian, and to an extent I also think that we're that victim of circumstance...or victim of the human condition for the want of total control.

To dig out a phrase that I've used ad nauseum, "Like a pot of slowly boiling frogs that don't know when to jump out of the pot". Meaning that if you throw a frog into a pt of boiling water, it will immediately jump out. But if you turn up the heat slowly, it will sit there peacefully and boil to death.
I've never tried that experiment personally and never intend to, but it's the constant incremental changes in our society that I see as being analogous to that theory. And the escalating rate in which they are ocurring is a real concern.

If you were to back-peddle 30yrs or so and look into the future to our present political system, you'd probably come to the conclusion that we have two major right winged parties, one slightly less right winged than the other. Very similar to how the U.S. political system was perceived back then.
Maybe it's just a natural progression of what people want, but the Howard government fear mongering during the last election of a return to the bad old BLF days didn't turn too many people off voting for Labor. And if people weren't scared of it, then did they get what they voted for?

I've never been able to find the exact amount of legislative changes the Howard government put through the senate, but I do know that the figure is huge. By far the largest in Australia's history.

The formula seems quite simple.The media sells the drama, closely followed by new laws and fines..and therefore more control for the government....even though they barely manage for us any of our assets anymore. They've about sold the lot of our stuff, but they want (usurp) more control and more money. Who thu fukc are they to be in existence only to dictate laws and take money?

Every new law is an investment in control. The latest I was just reading in a media poll "Do you think that dog-walking should be mandatory?"
There you go, there's another easy control cow. Simply use the unconstitutional councils to enforce a dog-walking law and take money at their discression.
So how about something that people really care about, like a mandatory law for the banks to stop profiteering from the people?

It's little wonder that people like djrbfm want to get tha hell out of this country, I've felt exactly the same on many ocassions. Especially when you look at the lifestyle of other nations.
Sure there's less certainty of safety, but I haven't wanted a nanny for many a year, and I actually pay money here for the right to put myself at personal risk.
If you want to get out of this country djrbfm, then I'm sure that there will be an exit fine to make it less attractive.








LOL.
your last statement is true, and funny.
respect to you.
the sad truth is, aussie is down the crapper.
sadly.
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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #54 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:41pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2009 at 7:52pm:
Onya Mozzaok.
You're the only poster to have the guts to talk about Tony.
Tony's thrashed ruddy on their first face up.

Rhodes Scholar, Aussie Surf life saver, cyclist, pugilist, Budgie smuggler wearer.
i know boxers, very good opponents.

oH, GEEZ LOISE: TURN IT UP!

He said, today, that a good conservative principle is to look after the environment and they mauled Turnbull for trying to do exactly that!

"...; and third, because it's a good conservative principle that each generation should aim to leave the planet in better shape than we found it."

source: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/full-text-of-tony-abbotts-address-to-the-sydney-institute/story-e6frgczf-1225819327681

Abbott has a fight on his hands but whether he brings any political guts to it is about to be proven most probably to the negative!

He only started attempting to build momentum from this article....

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Reply #55 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:45pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 31st, 2009 at 3:54am:
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TONY Abbott says he will turn asylum-seeker boats back out to sea if the Coalition wins the next election, accusing Kevin Rudd of lacking the "steel" to fulfil his promise to do the same.
As authorities intercepted another refugee boat - the 59th this year - the Opposition Leader said asylum-seekers must know what a risky business it was coming to Australia by boat.

Mr Abbott attacked the Prime Minister over his lack of "steel" in handling the issue.

"If the circumstances permit it, you've got to be prepared to turn boats around," Mr Abbott told The Australian yesterday. "John Howard was fiercely criticised for this. Nevertheless, Kevin Rudd said he would be more than tough enough to turn boats around were he prime minister, but he singularly failed to show any steel whatsoever since becoming our leader."

The Opposition Leader's comments were accompanied by a fresh broadside against the Rudd government's proposed emissions trading system. Mr Abbott challenged Mr Rudd to release Treasury modelling on who would be worse off under the scheme.

"Given that this is dribbling out piecemeal, I think it's high time that Mr Rudd came clean with the Australian people," Mr Abbott said.

The remarks prompted a government counter-attack, with Acting Climate Change Minister Peter Garrett challenging Mr Abbott to provide evidence for his claim the ETS would cost the average household an extra $1100 a year. Mr Abbott's comments on boats echo a promise made by Mr Rudd in the dying days of the 2007 election campaign. "You'd turn them back," Mr Rudd said of approaching asylum boats. In the interview, given to The Australian, Mr Rudd acknowledged such an approach was contentious, but emphasised the importance of deterrence. "Deterrence is effective through the detention system but also your preparedness to take appropriate action as the vessels approach Australian waters on the high seas," the then opposition leader said.

Mr Abbott acknowledged the electoral potency of the asylum-seeker issue, saying the spike in boat arrivals had registered in the electorate.

Perhaps in a measure of how the debate had evolved since the Tampa crisis of 2001, Mr Abbott indicated the refugee issue was unlikely to dominate next year's election campaign. "I think it's an important issue," the Liberal leader said. "I'm not saying it's the most important issue, I'm not saying it's necessarily a decisive issue.

"But I think it has been a significant issue in terms of illustrating the comparative weakness of Kevin Rudd as Prime Minister."...............


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Get back on the table tennis ya crack smoker!

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Reply #56 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:47pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 31st, 2009 at 7:12pm:
Rudd ran and was elected as the non-Howard candidate. Two years down the track, it should not be enough. Rudd is a complete puff-ball. As it happens, he is Snowball to Gillard's (and the Left's) Napoleon.





Geezus, you idiots: I am a proud Howard Hater but when 9-11 happened I voted for him!

Then it was Latham and no-one voted for him to take over whilst at war...

Howard got lucky w/ 9-11: but once he mentioned Nuclear Power he was gone and even he knew it!
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Reply #57 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:29pm
 
Death may well ride a horse but you are just flogging a dead one.

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Reply #58 - Jan 15th, 2010 at 8:38am
 
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:29pm:
Death may well ride a horse but you are just flogging a dead one.



You'll have to excuse sorens attempt at poor humour,DRAH,
I think global warming has fried his brain.





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Reply #59 - Jan 15th, 2010 at 12:23pm
 


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OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott has started his election-year pitch as an environmentalist by threatening a referendum to take control of the Murray-Darling basin and proposing a 15,000-strong ''green army'' to tackle land degradation.

Putting aside the vexed issue of climate until the Coalition has forged its policy, Mr Abbott admitted the environment would be a vote-changer, but said the debate should be ''much more than an argument over climate change''.

''The political left shouldn't be seen as 'owning' the environment,'' he said. ''And I am determined to challenge any assumption that it does.

''Conservative political parties and the conservationist movement both want to preserve what's best in our heritage,'' he told the Sydney Institute in his initial policy speech as leader.........



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