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Nice prank call to an American Zionist hotline
Nov 14th, 2009 at 1:50pm
 

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Re: Nice prank call to an American Zionist hotline
Reply #1 - Nov 18th, 2009 at 4:17am
 
The commandment is not "thou shall not kill", it's "thou shall not commit murder".  There's a world of difference.
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Reply #2 - Nov 19th, 2009 at 9:44am
 
Well that's just the English translation. The original Hebrew word was רצח (Ratsakh) which actually means murder or wrongful killing or slaying or massacring. The Jewish Bible (Tanakh) is quite clear that killing when it's right is quite fine, in fact commanded.
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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2009 at 10:39am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Nov 19th, 2009 at 9:44am:
Well that's just the English translation.
The original Hebrew word was רצח (Ratsakh) which actually means murder or wrongful killing or slaying or massacring. The Jewish Bible (Tanakh) is quite clear that killing when it's right is quite fine, in fact commanded.




Correct, imo.




Throughout the OT, God berates those among 'his people' who fail in judgement, against the wicked.

God requires that we choose, between the good, and the evil, and then, condemn the evil.

God requires that we make judgement against the actions of the wicked.

"....so shalt thou put the evil away from among you....."


Deuteronomy 19:16-20



The catch is that, if we judge others, we better be sure of their wickedness.

And be sure that we are making a 'righteousness judgement', because we will be held to account for the innocent blood we spill.



Isaiah 59, speaking of those who regard themselves as God's people, i.e. 'Israel',

Isaiah 59:1
Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2  But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3  For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.
5  They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.
6  Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
7  Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
8  The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
10  We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.
11  We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
12  For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;
13  In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
14  And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
15  Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.


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