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Reply #45 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 8:16am
 
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What do we do about these plane people should be the question.

Yes, good question.

'Plane people' are OK for those airheads with mindless illusions of affluence... where 'air traveller' = 'jet set' = 'affluent' = 'good'.

And the MSM has only enough resources to feed the hungriest hog - The mindless... those triggered by only the most superficial of archetypes... 'Boat people' being one of the most superficial for 'immigrants'. After all, how did immigrants traditionally arrive in Australia?

Maybe stupidity has a 40+ year delay in update of its mindset.
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Reply #46 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 8:43am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 24th, 2009 at 8:11am:
prob 'cuase a detention was reguired somewhere.
More economic to build a biggish one, than one that will only take 100 people.

purely a guess of mine skippy.


But you said Howard had it all under control, how is that if he needed an 800 bed centre on xmas island?
If Howard had it all under control xmas island would not be needed, would it?
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Reply #47 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 9:34am
 

skippy - you are REALLY down to nitpicking now

the detention centre is overcrowded already, going to complain it was not big enough?
perhaps johnny the immaculate KNEW one day leftards would get back in contriol and invite all the losers here, so more accommodation would be required ?

maybe it is a place for the muslims of mainland aussie ?

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Reply #48 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 10:09am
 
Maybe its time to review the status of Kiwis who can immigrate into Australia as automatic permanent residents.
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Reply #49 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 10:41am
 


Maybe its time to review your brain cell.   Wink
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Reply #50 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 11:42am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 24th, 2009 at 10:41am:
Maybe its time to review your brain cell.   Wink

Yep. As expected... Fulfilling your role here... The halfwit with the big mouth.

Australia has too lax a policy on its blanket acceptance of people from one particular nation over any other. Wonder how many crims cross the Tasman daily.
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Reply #51 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 12:19pm
 

so, you stand for anything ? or just whatever rudd says is good enough for you ?
how do you reconcile ruddy is a christian ? Turn a blind ignorant eye ?

MANY crims from NZ have "escaped" over here.

That's one of the reasons many good kiwis come over here, to get away from the flotsam and jetsam.
At one stage kiwis did not even need a passport !!! Just jump on a plane, may as well be a bus trip.
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Reply #52 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 1:40pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 24th, 2009 at 12:19pm:
so, you stand for anything ? or just whatever rudd says is good enough for you ?
how do you reconcile ruddy is a christian ? Turn a blind ignorant eye ?

MANY crims from NZ have "escaped" over here.

That's one of the reasons many good kiwis come over here, to get away from the flotsam and jetsam.
At one stage kiwis did not even need a passport !!! Just jump on a plane, may as well be a bus trip.

More half-baked sloganeering...

Rudd's significance for me is that he's a politician. I don't expect a politician to bring religion to the job.

Given the fundamental doctrine of Christianity is a compassion for the human condition that transcends all self-interest, it's hard enough for me to reconcile your attitude with Christianity.

Many crims have escaped over here eh? How many Kiwi crims have infected Australia compared to "boat people" crims. What's the bet it's more than 1000 to 1?
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Reply #53 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 5:16pm
 

go read the bible helian.
how does this reconcile with your limpwristed ideals of christianity ?

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"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again?
It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.


Matthew 5:13

i'ld think the numbers of ILLEGAL kiwis who come over here are less than you think.

where would QLD be without Jo Bjelke-petersen ? An ex-kiwi.
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Reply #54 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 5:33pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 24th, 2009 at 5:16pm:
go read the bible helian.
how does this reconcile with your limpwristed ideals of christianity ?

Quote:
"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again?
It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.


Matthew 5:13

i'ld think the numbers of ILLEGAL kiwis who come over here are less than you think.

where would QLD be without Jo Bjelke-petersen ? An ex-kiwi.

Yes, the usual response from half-baked Christians... They're usually ones who've stumbled on the religion (i.e. had only rudimentary education in Christianity or none at all), subscribing to the whacko drivel emanating from self-declared pastors and often have hangups about their sexuality... Often evidenced by their use of terms like softcock, limp-wristed and namby-pamby... A deep fear of being feminised by the religion... However the core of the Christian message is about compassion/love for all including enemies and not about proving you've still got balls (I believe Islam is more about that, ironically).

There are no bloody illegal Kiwis... That's the friggin point... Because Kiwis have a right to permanent residence, there's no way to control the steady flow of trash that crosses the Tasman... Particularly if Kiwi law enforcement is happy to see them go and doesn't alert Australian authorities to the travel plans of known trash....

Here's a little gem

Kiwi thug wins right to stay in Australia
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Reply #55 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 8:19am
 

Yes, that's the point helian. Some kiwis are rightly refused entry into Aussie .
I would not have them in my house, sure don't want them in Aussie !!!!
Your example is a gem, no way I'ld allow him in Aussie.





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Reply #56 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 9:16am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 8:19am:
Yes, that's the point helian. Some kiwis are rightly refused entry into Aussie .
I would not have them in my house, sure don't want them in Aussie !!!!
Your example is a gem, no way I'ld allow him in Aussie.

No, the point is that very few Kiwis are prohibited from entry into Australia and once they arrive, there is no limit to the amount of time they may reside here. So long as Australian authorities are unaware of the immigrant's character, nothing stops garbage from crossing the Tasman and living permanently in Australia.

Well may you say 'there's no way'... But there was a way... and despite his low character, he's still among us.
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Reply #57 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 9:32am
 

If there is "no way", we should make one. Aussie has the responsibility to protect our own shores.

perhaps we should be more vigilant of ne'er do wells from NZ.
perhaps also have a limited time  for kiwis coming over here unless they fulfill specific criteria ?
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Reply #58 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 9:39am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 9:32am:
If there is "no way", we should make one. Aussie has the responsibility to protect our own shores.

perhaps we should be more vigilant of ne'er do wells from NZ.
perhaps also have a limited time  for kiwis coming over here unless they fulfill specific criteria ?

Which raises the question of which is more a threat to Australian security? The asylum seeker who has risked and lost everything to come to Australia, often waiting for years in stinking, disease-ridden refugee camps... Who, out of despair, pays a people-smuggler thousands of dollars (a lifetime's savings) in a desperate bid to secure a future for his wife and children... Or the Kiwi crim who hops a flight from Auckland for a couple of hundred dollars before he's detained by Kiwi cops for some charge he'll soon be up on?
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Reply #59 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 12:20pm
 

the illegal asylum seeker or the legitimate (albeit not nice) kiwi ??
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