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Oct 21^st, 2009 at 11:11pm

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...........unrealistic and unjust doctrines like turning the other cheek or loving your enemy, which nobody even tries to obey anyway, since they are just plain wrong and unjust.
And so the followers of those unrealistic and unjust doctrines end up becoming more severe in those things anyway.
Like when Christians goto war, they commit the most horrific of atrocities, because their teachings simply don't address the very human circumstance of war.

so how is "turning the other cheek" or "loving your neighour" such an "unjust" thing to do?

It's a really unnatural and hard thing to do.
It's spiritual, it goes away from the natural ways.

And, whenever I have done it, it has worked.
And it's still really hard to do.

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Reply #1 - Oct 21^st, 2009 at 11:17pm

It is unjust because it leads people to think they can get away with tyranny, and emboldens them to oppress and attack others.

And I doubt you've ever done it sprint. As you've shown here, you love to "respond in kind".

As for Yadda, the supposed spiritual Christian.. it was only a few moments ago he was typing out "The Israelis didn't go far enough in the Cast Lead Operation".... as you can see, the hypocrisy of the doctrine shines through.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40816 Gender:	Re: all nations will turn against Israel II Reply #2 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 1:10am why would anyone expect to get away with tyranny from that quote? does itnot involve beheading, lopping off a limb or the like? you imbicile
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: all nations will turn against Israel II Reply #3 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 6:30am The only imbecile here is the one who didn't learn how to spell.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40816 Gender:	Re: all nations will turn against Israel II Reply #4 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 8:27am typeical dyevershun. kant ansa da question ? Quote: why would anyone expect to get away with tyranny from that quote? does itnot involve beheading, lopping off a limb or the like? Or choose not to?
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Reply #5 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 10:16am

sprint... "turning the other cheek" means emboldening the aggressor and unleashing him onto others... I already mentioned this, and quite frankly anyone who's navigated their way through grade 1 in primary school would realise it. Bullies don't cease being bullies because you turn the other cheek, they become more confident bullies. Most 6 yo. kids realise this, yet you still don't?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40816 Gender:	Re: all nations will turn against Israel II Reply #6 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 10:29am abu - i've done it. the aggressor stopped. it worked. mahatma ghandi used the same philosophy, nonviolence. it's not the muslim way.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: all nations will turn against Israel II Reply #7 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 10:32am Quote: abu - i've done it. the aggressor stopped. it worked. You probably just never saw him again... no doubt he went on to be aggressive against others... Also sprint, don't you support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan??
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40816 Gender:	Re: all nations will turn against Israel II Reply #8 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 10:57am no idea what he went on to do. Maybe become an islamic ? he was that violent. I support getting rid of despots maniac murderous leaders, getting rid of religio/political/legal archaic systems and allowing people democracy and freedoms. See they are doing a revote in afghanistan?
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Reply #9 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 12:29pm

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no idea what he went on to do. Maybe become an islamic ?
he was that violent.

You probably just didn't respond because of cowardice, not turning the other cheek. I'm sure if he was smaller than you, you wouldn't have Grin

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I support getting rid of despots maniac murderous leaders, getting rid of religio/political/legal archaic systems and allowing people democracy and freedoms.

Shouldn't they turn the other cheek?

If you truly believed in and practised Christian teachings, then you would not support the wars. Hence my point, you believe in it when it suits you (ie. when you're too cowardly to respond), but when it suits you, you don't mind cheering the warmongers from the sidelines.

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See they are doing a revote in afghanistan?

They had no choice did they?? Their man, whom they fired for exposing it (to hush it up), kept harping on about it.... so they got shamed into it

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Re: all nations will turn against Israel II
Reply #10 - Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 12:53pm

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 21^st, 2009 at 11:17pm:

As for Yadda, the supposed spiritual Christian.. it was only a few moments ago he was typing out "The Israelis didn't go far enough in the Cast Lead Operation".... as you can see, the hypocrisy of the doctrine shines through.

Yup.

I'm definitely, a bad'un.

I often give in to temptation.

I often respond to provocation.

I am human.

Who is the tempter?

Who is the provocateur?

Job 2:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
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48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I am not, perfect.

I am human.

Will my God forgive me my sins?

God knows our burdens.

Isaiah 57:16
For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.
17 For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart.
18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners.
19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.
20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

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