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Reply #75 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 9:07am

fakir - get off your leftard handwringing blinkers.

if blacks find it offensive, that's their inferiority complex.

abu and muso are the only ones who agreewith you.

aussie has done nothing to warrant "forgiving", everyone wants to come.
Get the message - this is a country of free speech. don't like that, don't come, get away.

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Reply #76 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 9:55am

fakir wrote on Oct 13^th, 2009 at 8:12am:

For the record, abu_rashid and muso are the only ones on this thread who have shown the right attitude. The world would have forgiven Australians a lot sooner if you just get your heads out of your arrogant asses and show you are willing to join the rest of the world.

That's the point of it all, really - the attitude. The emotional correctness. The emotional bullying by 'minorities', demanding emotional validation. We resist being bullied into self-critique and confession of guilt.

You are upset that we don't see the world your way. You acknowledge that the doctors, or the program, was not meant to be racists or offensive. Yet ypou bang on about guilt and forgiveness.

The blacks of America are not victims of whitey any more. The blacks of Africa are not victims of whitey any more. Australian Aboriginees are not victims of whitey any more. You are not a victim. Stop appropraiting the victim status.

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Reply #77 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 10:02am

well once more we see non whites, demanding far greater restrictions be placed on white races, than on any others, as if asians, africans, or any other non caucasian ethnicities aren't racist?
Ha, anyone who has ever been outside the realms of their own fantastical world of self delusion, knows that is bull.
We see tribalism of such extreme degrees in africa, that belonging to the wrong tribe, in the wrong area, can often be fatal, yet we see the world up in arms about a silly amateur skit. What a bunch of bleeding hypocrites.
Harry Connick deciding to be offended on behalf of other people is just ridiculous, and I would have a lot more respect for him if he instead addressed some derision for all those revolting black american artists whose songs promoting violence and grossly offensive sexist behaviour, are accepted as some cultural right for "n!ggers", their own self description incidentally, mine would be moronic turds.
So excuse me for not joining in the chorus of self flagellation we are supposed to be indulging in, but we aussies have aa great sense of humour, and we also have a good idea where to draw the line between offensive, and jusst being overly precious.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09 Reply #78 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 10:24am Quote: abu and muso are the only ones who agreewith you. Actually neither muso nor myself agreed with him.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41827 Gender:	Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09 Reply #79 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 10:34am course abu, being a muslim, you disagree with every infidel all the time. enjoy your jihad for your perverted pants prophet
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Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09
Reply #80 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:02am

Soren wrote on Oct 13^th, 2009 at 9:55am:

That's the point of it all, really - the attitude. The emotional correctness. The emotional bullying by 'minorities', demanding emotional validation. We resist being bullied into self-critique and confession of guilt.

You are upset that we don't see the world your way. You acknowledge that the doctors, or the program, was not meant to be racists or offensive. Yet ypou bang on about guilt and forgiveness.

The blacks of America are not victims of whitey any more. The blacks of Africa are not victims of whitey any more. Australian Aboriginees are not victims of whitey any more. You are not a victim. Stop appropraiting the victim status.

You're kidding right? Then what on earth is considered racism to you? Does that word mean anything to you if every victim of racism is merely emotionally bullying the bully to apologize? You are stupid, plain and simple if you think that a victim of racism is the "bully" when he wants an apology for a racist attack.

What's the standard? Do you consider the "n" word offensive to blacks? If so, then how is the "n" word offensive, but black face is not? Your logic, and the logic of 70% of Australians is flawed and is the reason that without a shadow of a doubt, white Australians are racist. Full stop.

Wake up. Blacks are still victimized everywhere, including and especially in Australia and the fact that you actually don't think so just shows the extent of your denial. Want proof? Here:

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,,25649566-2761,00.html

Stop living in denial and see what everyone in the world (NOT just me) sees: white Australians are racist.

Want so more proof?

Here:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/09/australia-confronts-racism/

Look even the PM at first

denied

there's racism, but he had to about face. Read the article for yourself. I am presuming this board is predominantly filled with intellectuals, if it took so long for Rudd to admit racism, and the lot of you are still in

denial

, then I have no hope for the majority of white Australians.

Want more proof?

Here's an essay, and look at the quotes: "

Australian Racism is about Denial

":

http://sisis.nativeweb.org/2000/jimbruce.html

Sound familiar? That's been the theme throughout this entire thread: white Australians denying there is a problem.

Yes my friend, you resist confessions of guilt. We already know that. That doesn't stop the fact you are guilty in every court of decency and respect. Respect has to be earned, and if there is one thing this skit has highlighted, is that Australians have embarrassed themselves by their crass, ignorant, racist and indifferent culture. You don't need to tell us you resist confessions of guilt - we already know.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09 Reply #81 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:07am Quote: abu and muso are the only ones who agreewith you. Actually we had a thread about it on AussieMuslims, and every single Muslim agreed it wasn't a racist skit. Sometimes we can agree, don't let your extremist absolutionist illogical thoughts get the better of you
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skippy Ex Member	Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09 Reply #82 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:15am Most of the comments I've seen on this that say Aussies are racist are by white Australians, I was with some Aboriginals on Friday who wondered what all the fuss was about, their opinion was that political correctness had gone mad.
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Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09
Reply #83 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:17am

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:07am:

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abu and muso are the only ones who agreewith you.

Actually we had a thread about it on AussieMuslims, and every single Muslim agreed it wasn't a racist skit.

Sometimes we can agree, don't let your extremist absolutionist illogical thoughts get the better of you

why don't you just go ahead and say it: sprintcycle is racist. I mean, is the entire nation living in denial or has that word been magically erased from your collective vocabulary?

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Reply #84 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:19am

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Most of the comments I've seen on this that say Aussies are racist are by white Australians, I was with some Aboriginals on Friday who wondered what all the fuss was about, their opinion was that political correctness had gone mad.

There's a phenomena called "Stockholm Syndrome". Australian minorities live in denial that there is a problem of racism out of self-defence. "Racism" has been shoved so far down our throats that our moral compass has been desensitised like the rest of Australia. It's only when minorities have left Australia that they are "freed" to acknowledge there was a problem all along. This also happens with "Stockholm Syndrome".

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Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09
Reply #85 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:29am

Still think it's just victim mentality?

Here: the friggin United Nations thinks racism is entrenched in Australia:

http://blog.taragana.com/n/un-says-racism-entrenched-in-australia-151103/

Heck wikipedia actually has an entry especially for Australian racism!! Ha! Here it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Australia

85% admit there is racism in Australia. You know what that means? Apparently the other 15% are on this board. Roll Eyes

A whopping 20% of Australians have been victims - which seems to be almost the ENTIRE population of minorities in Australia!

Still think there's no problem? Hmm?

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skippy Ex Member	Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09 Reply #86 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:41am Two questions Fakir- 1 Are you white? 2- Have you ever been to another country?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Australian Racism continues to rear its head Oct09 Reply #87 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:44am Quote: why don't you just go ahead and say it: sprintcycle is racist. Actually I already said it, back in the first or second page of the thread. There's no doubting sprint and many other Australians are racists. But that doesn't mean this skit was racist.
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Reply #88 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:44am

fakir wrote on Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:02am:

Blacks are still victimized everywhere, including and especially in Australia and the fact that you actually don't think so just shows the extent of your denial. Want proof? Here:

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,,25649566-2761,00.html

Stop living in denial and see what everyone in the world (NOT just me) sees: white Australians are racist.

Want so more proof?

Here:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/09/australia-confronts-racism/

Nonsense. Australians have contempt for people living in violent squalor and self-neglect, regardless of their hue. ANd there is no racism towards anyone who can take responsibility for his own life, his children's welfare, washes, holds down a job and has no despicable notions of his own cultural exceptionalism. And can speak intelligibly.

Prejudice is a good thing. It is about learning from past experience and only fools don't learn from it. It is not racism. We all live by our prejudices. You'd be dead if you didn't have a prejudice about crossing the road when the light's red.

Only new experience will correct past prejudices. And anyway, in comedy, a certain amount of cruelty is essential.

f]BBC has decreed that its comedies are not to be ''unduly intimidatory, humiliating, intrusive, aggressive or derogatory''. John Howard Davies, who used to run BBC comedy, pointed out that this is the sort of absurdity that happens when a committee decides guidelines. An individual exercising editorial judgment is far preferable, especially if that individual has been chosen because of his or her connection with the real world, and what makes people laugh in it.

I have occasionally thought that I used to find programs put out by the BBC funny because I was so much younger when I saw them. However, watching re-runs of old comedy programs, I realise I was wrong: they were, plainly and simply, very funny. The famous Fawlty Towers episode in which Basil insults the Germans fails every one of the new guidelines. It is racist, intimidating, humiliating, mocks Spaniards, Germans, and the mentally ill, and commits other offences too numerous to mention. It is also dementedly funny, even after repeated viewings over 30 years.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/simonheffer/6292411/BBC-plans-for-...

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Reply #89 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:50am

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ANd there is no racism towards anyone who can take responsibility for his own life, his children's welfare, washes, holds down a job and has no despicable notions of his own cultural exceptionalism. And can speak intelligibly.

The fact you think those things make racism ok is quite disturbing soren.

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