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Reply #165 - Oct 18th, 2009 at 9:04pm
 
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Abu... Young culture is not proto-culture.


Well I'd say rather than being a culture in it's infancy, ours is still inside the womb. It is still being formed, it is not a single whole entity just yet, nobody can deny it. I don't know why people get so defensive about it. It in no way indicates it's inferior as far as cultures go, it just says something about its current age, that's all.

And as I said, those factors like the continual influx of new cultures are still dragging it behind too, preventing it from coalescing properly.
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Reply #166 - Oct 18th, 2009 at 9:27pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 18th, 2009 at 9:04pm:
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Abu... Young culture is not proto-culture.


Well I'd say rather than being a culture in it's infancy, ours is still inside the womb. It is still being formed, it is not a single whole entity just yet, nobody can deny it. I don't know why people get so defensive about it. It in no way indicates it's inferior as far as cultures go, it just says something about its current age, that's all.

And as I said, those factors like the continual influx of new cultures are still dragging it behind too, preventing it from coalescing properly.

I'm not getting defensive, no one denies Australia has a young culture... It's just that I thought proto-culture refers to primates passing on skills like tool use to offspring (no joke intended Grin).
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Reply #167 - Oct 19th, 2009 at 7:19am
 
fakir wrote on Oct 17th, 2009 at 3:43am:
Racism is hurtful to minorities, and we have the right to live lives without being joked about.  You want to take the pisstake out of yourselves - be my guest, but stop expecting others to accept it.




Comrades,

It has become clear to the central committee that those of you who have outsourced your thinking functions to the Party (which is all of you if you know what's good for you) may not have been properly conditioned prepared to recognize racism in all its ugly disguises.  This Communique is designed to help those who need to improve these skills.

Being against ObamaCare is racist.  This includes any of the 63 or so bills currently being considered by the Party.

Worrying about the deficit is racist, unless you blame it on Bush (41 or 43) or Reagan, whose fault(s) it really is.

Failure to acknowledge the reality of global warming climate change is racist.

Laughing at Chicago not receiving the 2016 Olympic Games which are rightfully hers theirs is racist.  So is hinting, suggesting, implying, imagining or thinking that this failure is Obama's fault.

Attending the 2016 games in Rio is NOT racist as long as attendance is accompanied by constant grumbling and muttering about how the games were stolen from Chicago.

Not laughing at Janeane Gawdawfulo is racist.  Unless she is being serious at the time, then it becomes racist to laugh.  Not knowing the difference is racist.

Not buying a new car from GM or Chrysler is NOT racist, unless you bought one from Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, Nissan, etc, etc, instead.
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Listening to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, et al, is also NOT racist unless the listening is performed WITHOUT screaming and yelling of denounciations at the TV, radio or other electronic device which is broadcasting the program.  NO exception is made for driving a car, handling nitroglycerin, performing brain surgery, etc.  FAILURE to denouce is racist.

Wanting a tax cut is racist, as is remembering that Obama promised you one last year.

Praising any former President except Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton is racist.

Worrying about terrorist attacks freedom-fighter outbursts of enthusiasm of an explosive nature on American soil is racist.  Remembering 9/11 is NOT racist as long as you acknowledge it was Amerikka's fault.

Speculating about Iran creating a nuclear weapon is racist.  Unless Obama announces they have one, in which case remembering a time when Iran didn't have one is racist.

Discussing what any general or military expert says about the Afghanistan conflict unpleasantness is racist, unless it is made clear they are idiots for disagreeing with Obama.  If they disagree with Obama, that is.  But they probably will.  And that's racist.

Saying or thinking the 2009 Stimulus Plan is a failure is racist.  Mentioning the current unemployment rate is NOT racist as long as one also mentions that it would be higher without the Stimulus.

Finding old graphs about unemployment rate predictions from early 2009 is racist, unless you turn them upside down.

Wondering if all of the stuff the Party and it's paid hacks honorable surrogates say is racist is really racist IS RACIST!  The wondering, that is.

Failure to self-loathe is racist.

Not supporting the Mainstream Media is racist.  Wondering if newspapers and broadcast TV news is obsolete is racist.  Including FOX News in "broadcast TV news" is racist.

Failure to take it seriously when a TV commentator or newspaper columnist wonders if something is racist is racist.   

Attending a "Tea Party" is racist, unless it happens to really involve tea and is held in someone's home.  And nothing is said about Obama.  Unless it's in the nature of "How great he is!"  Otherwise, it's racist.

Mentioning ACORN is racist.  Unless it's to solicit funds for their legal defense fund lawsuits against various and sundry racists.

Black people African-Americans People of Color are the truest arbiters of racism.  If a Person of Color says something is racist, then it is racist.

Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Clarence Thomas, et al, are NOT people of color.  But they are racists.

Talking of Presidential Approval Polls is racist.  Unless we get back to over 60%, then not talking of Presidential Approval Polls is racist.

Any statement concerning the size of the First Lady's butt is racist, unless accompanied by the phrase "I wish I could look that good" or the like.  Even if you're not a womyn.

Watching something else when Obama is on TV is racist.

Not knowing something is racist is racist.

Failure to read this communique is racist.

Thinking these guidelines are silly is racist.
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Reply #168 - Oct 19th, 2009 at 8:29am
 
Soren,

I really don't want to encourage you, but this whole episode is about political correctness gone mad plus a dash of American cultural imperialism.

Even some Americans are tired of excess political correctness. Does anybody else listen to the Garisson Keillor radio show on Sunday nights? There was a sketch last night in which two cowboys walked into a bar. The first cowboy asks for a whisky, and the barmaid proceeded to caution him at length about the deleterious effects of alcohol. He settles for a glass of water with a cherry.

The second cowboy asks for a tea - unsweetened, then asks if it was organically grown, and whether the workers received an equitable share, whether they sang and danced a lot, oh and did they receive free wireless internet?

Grin

Excuse me while I rinse my typing fingers in phosphate free detergent for agreeing with you.
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Reply #169 - Oct 19th, 2009 at 11:27am
 
muso wrote on Oct 19th, 2009 at 8:29am:
Soren,


Excuse me while I rinse my typing fingers in phosphate free detergent for agreeing with you.



Agreeing with me is racist.
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Reply #170 - Oct 19th, 2009 at 7:11pm
 
Newsweek asks the question
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Reply #171 - Oct 19th, 2009 at 7:12pm
 
The People's Cube asks the question
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Reply #172 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 1:43am
 
I still think the most amusing thing about this whole affair was the subtle (unintended) admission uttered in Harry Connick Jr's self-righteous denunciation.

"We in America have been working so hard to make black people not look like buffoons."

Obviously, the intention of this statement was the implication that the U.S media used to only present a single image of black people to the American public, and the present day media has been working to amend this unwarranted and racist misconception.

But I think it goes a little deeper.

Why would you need to work hard, or at all, to make black people not look 'like buffoons'? And why did he say 'look' like buffoons? Why did he not say 'show that they are not buffoons?' Is he saying that the typical media depiction of the black man, one where the black man is almost always conscientious, studious, thoughtful and intelligent is but a mere image and not a real reflection of how black people statistically are in real life? Perish the thought Mr. Connick, but I do believe you have slipped up here!

You didn't hear it from me. The media works assiduously to make black people look good, but what do they resemble when the layered cosmetics come off?
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Reply #173 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 3:47am
 
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I still think the most amusing thing about this whole affair was the subtle (unintended) admission uttered in Harry Connick Jr's self-righteous denunciation.

"We in America have been working so hard to make black people not look like buffoons."

Obviously, the intention of this statement was the implication that the U.S media used to only present a single image of black people to the American public, and the present day media has been working to amend this unwarranted and racist misconception.

Yep.

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Yanks love lecturing to other nations about the evils of racism almost as much as they love setting the standard and practising it themselves.
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Reply #174 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 6:47am
 
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"We in America have been working so hard to make black people not look like buffoons."




Yes, I noticed that too and thought it was the (unintended) gist and motivation of his "message" Fakir's bone is with the same thing -  we don't pretend hard enough.

If you made fun of rap music - the current buffoonery - that would be racist. But I suppose we are all working together for a better world when there will be 'positive stereotypes' and jokes starting "this black accountant walks into a bar...."

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Reply #175 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 7:55am
 
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Why would you need to work hard, or at all, to make black people not look 'like buffoons'? And why did he say 'look' like buffoons? Why did he not say 'show that they are not buffoons?'


It comes down to the fact that Americans are ultra sensitive about racism and political correctness. We don't need usually to microanalyse spontaneous utterances unless we have a hidden agenda.

The same thing goes for some personal relationships. As long as everything is going smoothly, unintended innuendos are overlooked. But as soon as things get strained, watch out.  The most subtle unintended inflection or figure of speech gets churned around by the female anima, randomly processed then hurled back in material form (usually crockery etc)

If that was politically incorrect, blame it on my gonads.
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Reply #176 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 8:30am
 
muso wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 7:55am:
The same thing goes for some personal relationships. As long as everything is going smoothly, unintended innuendos are overlooked. But as soon as things get strained, watch out.  The most subtle unintended inflection or figure of speech gets churned around by the female anima, randomly processed then hurled back in material form (usually crockery etc)

The cheek of it.

And all you said was that..... maybe.... she could lose a couple of pounds, tops...   And.... maybe.... a spot of electrolysis work on her top lip...   Grin
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Reply #177 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 11:18am
 
- but seriously some people on this forum are getting pretty close to the line. We do actually have legislation to protect people from racial and religious vilification, much as some may not like it.  One person came very close to being taken to court for racist remarks on this forum - something than can totally ruin your day. The legislation is slightly different in different states, but this is the excerpt from the current Queensland Act:

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Vilification on grounds of race, religion, sexuality or
gender identity unlawful


(1) A person must not, by a public act, incite hatred towards,
serious contempt for, or severe ridicule of, a person or group
of persons on the ground of the race, religion, sexuality or
gender identity of the person or members of the group.

(2) Subsection (1) does not make unlawful—

(a) the publication of a fair report of a public act mentioned
in subsection (1); or

(b) the publication of material in circumstances in which
the publication would be subject to a defence of absolute
privilege in proceedings for defamation; or

(c) a public act, done reasonably and in good faith, for
academic, artistic, scientific or research purposes or for
other purposes in the public interest, including public
discussion or debate about, and expositions of, any act
or matter.


You could claim to be an artist, I guess. Maybe a PA or an 'artist' who draws the dole perhaps.  
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Reply #178 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 12:51pm
 
muso wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 11:18am:
- but seriously some people on this forum are getting pretty close to the line. We do actually have legislation to protect people from racial and religious vilification, much as some may not like it.  One person came very close to being taken to court for racist remarks on this forum - something than can totally ruin your day.   

I have noticed that some posters here have a simpleton's concept of freedom of speech. No one has the right to say anything they like regardless of the content or consequences of their message.
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Reply #179 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 3:22pm
 
I'm probably already on the SPLC's hate list already!
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