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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #30 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 11:38am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 11:26am:
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You are 'Israel' too - if you choose.

But you are stating that you hate God's righteousness, and love the lies of the wicked,


Unlike you I do not worship a certain tribe or Jewish man.

I worship the one true creator and sustainer of all existence.
My righteousness
is determined by my faith and works, and is granted to me purely by the MERCY of him who created me (not because of either of the two former points).

Israel (Yaqub) peace and blessings be upon him, was a great prophet of God, but to worship him and make him and his tribe (or even their supposed ethnic descendants) some kind of symbol of righteousness is just nonsensical mumbo jumbo. It's the kind of stuff people invent in the absence of a real solid belief.




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Psalms 94:11
The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #31 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 3:14pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 19th, 2009 at 6:30pm:
Well if one of Israel's allies' soldiers saw it... then it must be true... right?  Grin

Come on Yadda, this is like me bringing a member of the Muslim brotherhood from Egypt and saying he visited Ghazzah during the operation also, and he saw Hamas acting as the most humane army ever...... How much weight would you give it??




abu,

It appears that Col. Richard Kemp although informed, he is clearly not an impartial observer.

But, perhaps the reason that Col. Richard Kemp is not an impartial observer, is because, he is informed on the issue he speaks to?



Another presentation on YOUTUBE,

Col. Richard Kemp on the U.N. Goldstone Report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX6vyT8RzMo

Wow! wow! wow!

God bless this man, Col. Richard Kemp, a truth speaker.




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #32 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 4:06pm
 
He's an officer in an army that's at war with Islam, it's no surprise whatsoever he'd write such things. Kinda like letting Pope Urban comment on the behaviour of the crusaders when they were eating the corpses of the Muslims they'd slaughtered....

On the other hand, we have a Zionist Jew, as the judge, already admitted he's modified the truth to shield Israel, and his judgement is scathing enough as it is....
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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #33 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 4:09pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 4:06pm:
He's an officer in an army that's at war with Islam, it's no surprise whatsoever he'd write such things.
Kinda like letting Pope Urban comment on the behaviour of the crusaders when they were eating the corpses of the Muslims they'd slaughtered....

On the other hand, we have a Zionist Jew, as the judge, already admitted he's modified the truth to shield Israel, and his judgement is scathing enough as it is....




I have only one thing to say to you abu,

God bless this man, Col. Richard Kemp, a truth speaker.



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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #34 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 4:45pm
 
He's an apologist for atrocities. And you are a cheer-squad for such.

As an apostle of falsehood and believer in the coming anti-Messiah I guess it's your duty though isn't it...
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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #35 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 8:29pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 11:13am:
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Won't happen again.


Because of their own atrocities against the Muslims, it's bound to happen again. Had they not come and done this, then perhaps it may never have happened again.



Palestine problem hopeless, but not serious
By Spengler

"The situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable," declared United Sates President Barack Obama in his June 4 Cairo address. Really? Compared to what? Things are tough all over. The Palestinians are one of many groups displaced by the population exchanges that followed World War II, and the only ones whose great-grandchildren still have the legal status of refugees. Why are they still there? The simplest explanation is that they like it there, because they are much better off than people of similar capacities in other Arab countries.


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KH18Ak01.html

When the Muslims leave behind their poverty, tyranny and backwardness, then life in Muslim countries may then become better than in Israel. Maybe then Israel will be wiped off the map by the Arabs. But the price of that would be leaving Islam also behind. But then the motivation to destroy Israel will also be gone.


SO your dilemma is this: you hang on to Islam and with it the poverty and tyranny and you can dream of wiping out Israel without being able to.

Or you enable yourselves - but then you will have left Islam by the roadside, together with poverty and tyranny and your motivation to wipe out Israel.

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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #36 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 10:09am
 
That article is just nonsense soren.

Every single Muslim country without exception has abandoned Islam and adopted Western style institutions and ideals. And this is in fact the reason for their stagnation and inability to bootstrap themselves. They have become nothing but persistent client states. Only by returning to Islam will they achieve anything, this is what the West knows and this is what the West fears.

The most frustrating thing for the West must be knowing that they lost their chance with the Muslim world. Back in the 1940's up until about the 1980's, Muslim countries were almost exact clones of the West. Not only were the governments puppets, but the people themselves were actually sold on the idea of the Western culture. Just as an example, take a look at this picture:

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This is a famous Saudi family (leave you to guess which one) on holiday in Europe back in the early 1970's, as you can see they look very much like any other Western youth from that period. What happened? What went wrong? Why did that young man (circled) turn so anti-Western and become the leader of a worldwide movement to fight and defeat the Western influence in the Muslim world??

These people tasted the Western lifestyle, they don't want it, contrary to your delusions. They've woken up and realised that the only reason the Western style of society/government works for the West is because they're the ones leading it. It doesn't work for clients. It doesn't work for wannabes.
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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #37 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 10:24am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 21st, 2009 at 10:09am:
This is a famous Saudi family (leave you to guess which one) on holiday in Europe back in the early 1970's, as you can see they look very much like any other Western youth from that period.

That's the way they all became bin Laden Bunch

Apparently Osama from a youth was hung up on the fact that he was merely the son of his father through a concubine. Word is he never quite got over it.

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Reply #38 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 10:29am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 21st, 2009 at 10:09am:
These people tasted the Western lifestyle, they don't want it, contrary to your delusions. They've woken up and realised that the only reason the Western style of society/government works for the West is because they're the ones leading it. It doesn't work for clients. It doesn't work for wannabes.

What's the bet you'll find bin Laden's living the good life in Europe, eating non halal French cuisine and chuffing back a shlurp or two of fine single malt scotch?
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Reply #39 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 10:32am
 

you complete islamic idiot .

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.......the only reason the Western style of society/government works for the West is because they're the ones leading it....

it's a democracy, we vote for it.
freedom of speech and other stuff islamics fear

typical of you to praise a murderer
you sicken me
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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #40 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 10:49am
 
helian, you mean the brady tribe!

That is a bit more than a bunch.

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Apparently Osama from a youth was hung up on the fact that he was merely the son of his father through a concubine. Word is he never quite got over it.


Although you probably just consider that a witty little dig at him.. Concubinage does not exist in Saudi Arabia, so the idea is just ridiculous.

Perhaps he's just hung up on all the dead, mutilated, pillaged Muslims he saw in his time on the front lines in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion? Remember back when he used to be a heroic freedom fighter...

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Reply #41 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 1:30pm
 
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What's the bet you'll find bin Laden's living the good life in Europe, eating non halal French cuisine and chuffing back a shlurp or two of fine single malt scotch?


And much worse. My point though was not that such people don't exist, but that on the whole, Muslim societies were once very pro-Western and prided themselves on their imitation of the West. Today that's almost completely gone, except amongst the ruling elite.

20 years ago if you went to places like Cairo or Damascus, you'd find young men driving around with American flags draped across the back windows of their cars... today they drape them across fires.. The West has used up all it's good will in the Muslim world. They've completely alienated the people, and Islam has been the winner.
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Reply #42 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 2:21pm
 

20 years ago, muslim countries were broke.
they were concerned about their next meal, not foistering their beliefs on the world.

then the petrodollars rolled in, now muslims are cashed up and keen to overrun the globe
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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #43 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 3:16pm
 
sprint,

Not sure if you're aware but petrol was discovered in the Muslim countries about 100 years ago not 20 Grin

The ability of Muslim countries to actually independantly use their oil wealth for their own advantage is long gone. Gone are the days when the Muslim countries were able to slap an embargo on the U.S... Now Muslim countries are just subject to embargoes themselves.
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Re: The one thing worse than denying the Gaza report
Reply #44 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 7:29pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 21st, 2009 at 3:16pm:
sprint,

Not sure if you're aware but petrol was discovered in the Muslim countries about 100 years ago not 20 Grin

The ability of Muslim countries to actually independantly use their oil wealth for their own advantage is long gone. Gone are the days when the Muslim countries were able to slap an embargo on the U.S... Now Muslim countries are just subject to embargoes themselves.



So what' left for them? Work or conquer.

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