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Sep 8th, 2009 at 9:41am
 
why pick on islam solely ?

1. Can we find Jihadi organization in any other religions such: Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hizbullah, Horkut-ul- Jihad, Horkut-ul-mujahedin, Jaise Muhamad, Jihad-e-Muhammad, Tahrik-e-Nifaj-shariaat-e-Muhammad, Al-Hikhma, Al-badr-Mujaheddin, Jamah-e-Islamia, Hijb-e-Islamia, etc. etc.? We can find several dozens of Jihadi Islamic terrorist organizations exists in every Muslim country throughout the world. Can we find such organization in other religions? If not, then why?

2. We can find dozens of countries ruled by Islamic Shariaat (Huhud laws) where Quran is the only viable constitution. All Muslim majority countries also have family laws enforced as per Quranic laws. We can still find many Islamic Republics exist in this modern world of 21st century. My questions here are: Can we find any country ruled by Bible, Old Testament or Ghita today? Can we find just one Republic for Christian, Jewish, Hindus or Buddhas? If the answer is no, then please tell us why no?

3. Islam has become a fearful religion in the whole world today. Islamic terrorists are conspiring to kill innocent civilians, especially western civilians everywhere in the whole world. Whole civilized world is in a panic situation for fear of Islamic terrorism. Horrific incident of killing hundreds of innocent school children in Beslan, Russia, terrorism in Philippine, terrorism in Madrid metro train, terrorisms in the hotels, foreign embassies or tourist resorts in Indonesia, Bomb blasting in the Churches, Mosques of Shiite and Qadiani sects of Muslims-all have the cardinal hall marks of peaceful Islam. German police had arrested an al-Qaeda sympathizer and his fiancé on suspicion of planning to bomb the U.S. Army's European headquarters and other targets in Heidelberg, Germany. Interestingly these arrested al-Qaeda sympathizers were none but Muslims who kept pictures of Osama bin Laden in their apartment. My questions are: why could not these two human beings belonging Hindu, Jew or Christian? Why can't we incriminate any other religion for the acts of terrorism in the entire world?

4. Honor killing is the most inhuman and most disgraceful act by any human standard. This act is condemned by any sane human being today. But surprisingly-this horrendous episode is only present in the Muslim countries and Muslim societies. Islamists will argue that there is nothing in the Quran which suggests honor killing! Well, question here is, if Islam has nothing to do with it, then why it is only practiced by Muslims? NO OTHER SOCIETIES EXCEPT ISLAM PRACTICE IT, PERIOD. Even in the same country-example Nigeria, Northern Nigerian (Muslims) do practice this heinous act, but Southern Nigeria (Christians) do not practice this at all. This horrific uncivilized honor killing also had happened in the heart of United States of America (Mid-western state) again in an Arab immigrant Muslim family. It may present in any country in the whole world-but 100% sure that it will be happened only in a Muslim family. My questions here are-please tell me why Muslims only perform this heinous act? Why this act is totally absent in any other religions?

5. Today in the whole world Muslims are apologetic to the entire humankind for the shameful terrorisms and constantly trying to erase this stigma by various apologetic fruitless arguments and excuses. They are trying very hard to disown Osama Bin Laden and other Islamic terrorists by saying “Islam has been hijacked” etc. Some times after 9/11 ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) held four days full-fledged program in the Washington, D.C. to disown the burden of doubt in Islam by using same-old apologetic slogans-“Islam is a religion of peace” or Prophet Muhammad is the God's mercy to earth” etc. These Islamists of North America also tried to fool the westerners (may be they fooled themselves) by quoting a few good/kind Quranic verses. They all simply blamed Western Media for projecting Islam as the religion of terrorism. With much hypocrisy they absolutely hide all those hundreds of hateful/dreadful Quranic verses. My question here is-why any other religionists do not need to do all these hypocrisies like Islamists are doing today? Why Western Medias are not projecting any other religion as the religion of terror?

6. “Jihad” is the most fearful and despised word spoken/uttering throughout the whole world today. This famous word “Jihad” belongs to one religion, and that is-“Islam”. My question is-why Jihad belongs to only Islam?

7. Suicide-bombing only to kill innocent human beings (only to target civilian) is committed by Muslims only. In Palestine-Israeli conflict hundreds of incidents of such heinous suicide attempts have occurred so far. It was quite obvious that all these suicide bombers were brainwashed by the fiery inspirational teachings by Islamic clergy citing various Quranic dictums and hadiths. Among the Palestine citizens there are good percentage of Christian minority who support Palestinian cause and they are also enemy of Israel. Surprisingly, not a single “suicide bomber” could be found who was a Christian. My questions here are-why there was no suicide bomber evolved out of those Christian-born Palestinians? Why it is the only Muslims committing this horrendous act of suicide bombing?
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Reply #1 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 9:42am
 
8. Mosque-Islamic center connections: all most every terrorist arrested or identified so far, they obviously (without fail) belonged to some Mosque or Islamic center. It was quite apparent that the terrorists arrested or dead was later identified as the member/visitor of certain famous Mosque or Islamic center. In most cases-Muslims attacked their rivals after the Friday prayers, because the fiery sermons of the Imam of the Mosque energize these fanatics. My questions here are-if Islam and Mosque has nothing to do with terrorists then why they could not be belonged to some other religious center such as Hindu Temple, Jewish Temple, Buddhist temple or Christian church? Or why they could not be even the members of some atheists/agnostic/homosexual clubs?

9. Pure (Pukka) Muslims: all most all the terrorists (John walker Lind, Zakaria Moussai, Padila, James Uzzama etc.) so far arrested or known to the authority are very pure and devoutly good practicing bearded Muslims. After just one year of 9/11 terrorists incident, Swedish authority had arrested one suspected terrorist from on board an aircraft who attempted to hijack the plane and crash it to the American Embassy in the Western Europe. Later he was identified as the bearded young Tunisian born devout Muslim by the name Kerim shatty who wanted to go to join the Islamic conference in London. My questions are: Why they (terrorists) could not be from some moderate or not so good Muslim group? Why always terrorist have to be one of those most devout pukka Muslims? What possibly is the obvious indication here? Isn't it true that any true followers (real Muslim who follows Quran and hadiths) of Islam could be a terrorist?

10. Converts: we know conversion to other religion is a common phenomenon throughout the world. Many people convert to Islam, Christianity, Buddhism etc. My questions are why it is only those Muslim converts turn into terrorists or Taliban (American Taliban, James Uzzama, Shoe-bomber and dirty bomber suspect-they all are converted Muslims). Why any other converts (Hindu or Christian) could not be a Taliban or terrorist?

11. Clash of immigrants with the host: In the year 2001, there were riots between the immigrant British citizens and the host Britons. Surprisingly those immigrant British citizens were none other than the Muslim immigrants (mainly Pakistani and Bangladeshi descent). Britain has the immigrants from various countries and various religions. My question here is why those rioting-immigrants could not be from any other religions?

12. Dress code and food restriction: Do you know Islam has a special dress code for both men and women? Islam is nothing but Arab nationalism in the disguise of religion. Anybody from any foreign land convert to Islam also needs to adopt/change his name, dress and cultural habits, which is nothing but Arab national dress and Arab culture. A devout Bangladeshi, Chinese or a Burmese convert to Islam will pretend to be a good Muslim by wearing Arab garb or hijab for women, even though his/her own national dress is not at all similar to Arab national dress. Muslims also follow very strict food codes. Unlike other religious groups, Muslims can not eat western most hygienically produced meat products. Muslims need to eat so called un-hygienically produced halal meat. Convert Muslims even need to learn Arabic for daily rituals of Islam. They are not allowed to pray in their own mother tongue. Result is they do not know what they are praying. But unlike Muslim convert, Hindu, Christian or Jewish converts do not need to forsake their own names, national dress code or language of praying. My questions here are why the converts of no other religions need to change their own national dress code or food habits? Why Islam is so different?

13. Coercive imposition: Islam is the only religion in which peoples are being forced/coerced to observe Islamic daily rituals. In any Islamic paradise-like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Talibani Afghanistan, or any other Islamic Arab countries-Islamic police (Muttawalli) force general citizens to observe daily rituals very strictly. Anybody who fails to obey is punished by beating severely or even by imprisonment. Even in the moderate Muslim countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia etc. Clergies, general public or the elders will repeatedly remind or even force people to join the daily five time prayers/rituals of Islam. Anybody who do not join or refuse to join will be cursed, looked down or insulted by the seniors.

14. Punishments for the crime: Punishments for the crime (like stealing, adultery, killings etc.) in Islamic paradise (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Sudan and many other Arab nations) according to Allah's laws (Islamic Shariaat or hudud laws) are cutting/chopping hands, feet and even chopping heads, or stoning death and lashings one hundred and one times. My questions here are: could we find such ancient uncivilized/draconian laws in any other religions today? If the answer is no, then please tell us why?
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Reply #2 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 9:43am
 
15. Brotherhood in Islam: Islam is the only religion having brotherhood or Ummatic provision. One Muslim is considered brother of another Muslim only. A Muslim can not be a brother of Hindu, Christian or Jews or infidels. Muslims are forbidden even to pray for any infidels. Allah's instruction for Islamic Brotherhood: Quran-49:10-“The believers are but a single Brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; And fear God, that ye May receive Mercy” (Yousuf Ali's Translation). In his Shan-e-nuzul, Maulana Yousuf Ali stated: “The enforcement of the Muslim brotherhood is the greatest social ideal of Islam. On it was based the Prophet's Sermon at his last pilgrimage, and Islam cannot be completely realized until this is achieved.” Therefore, Islam is like a large-scale religious cult which does not recognize any other religion as pure religion. My question here is why no other religious group has such separatist brotherhood system?

16. Islam and poverty: Poverty and Islam goes side by side. Islam means submission to Allah. Therefore, general Muslims become like a dependent servant of unseen authority in the sky. Muslims loose their strength and desire of freethinking and innovation. Result is pure poverty. Look everywhere-Muslims are the poorest human beings on earth. Go to Africa or Asia-every Muslim majority country is a desperately poor country. Please don't try to cite some Arab oil-rich countries as the denial to my assertion. Because, that happened only due to the discovery of oil by the west-such as America and Britain. Before that, all the Arabs were miserably poor country. Muslims are poor even in a same country or region: In Nigeria-northern (Muslim majority) people are poor, but southern (Christian majority) people are rich and affluent. In Europe-only two most poor countries are Bosnia and Albania. Both of these European countries are populated by convert Muslims of same Caucasian white peoples. But they are poorer than their neighbors. My question here is why it has to be always like that? Does Islam have anything to do with this incredible scenario?

17. Muslim World: Do you know we have two worlds in the same planet earth? One is the real world (with every nation except the Islamic nations) and other is the Muslim world (with all the Islamic nations only). Surprisingly, there is no Christian world, no Hindu world or any Jewish world, Buddhist world or infidel world. But we have Muslim world. My question here is: why there is no Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or Jewish world?

18. Democracy: Democracy was invented to establish people's rules to govern a nation. Entire mankind knows it well that no religious edicts/rules can be compatible with the modern democracy. But do you know-Islamists make their laughable claim that, “Islam is compatible with the democracy”? Islam is 100% incompatible with the democracy; even then Islamists readily claim that-“Islam is compatible with democracy”! My question here is: do we hear about Christian, Hindu or Jewish democracy?

19. September 11, Episode: America and other nations of the entire world will remember Sept.11 as the most terrible day of the human history and everybody will pass the day with much sorrow and sombre mood. But do you know there are some Islamic folks (special human species) in Finsbury Park Mosque in north London who had celebrated (in 2003) this horrible day as the “towering day” of Islam? These Islamic fanatics had hailed/applauded the Sept.11 devilish deeds of those al-Qaeda heroes as the best deeds any Muslim can do. They had formed the supreme Islamic council of London and vowed to fight for making England an Islamic Paradise. Their future plan will be to convert entire world including infidel America into a perfect Islamic Paradise. My questions are: do we get to see this kind of madness amongst any other religions? If not then why?

20. Blaming Electronic Media: Islamists have a very funny way of judging correctness and authenticity of Media news. Whenever western Media like CNN or MSNBC broadcast something in their favor or likings they will try to highlight it 100 folds. But the moment news goes against their choice/likings-they will immediately call it western propaganda or Zionist conspiracy. What a double standard by those Islamists!

These Islamists blame western Medias for their own terrorist activities. Now a day, almost 100% of world's terrorisms are perpetrated directly by some devout Muslims. Not only that, immediately after the completion of their heinous terrorist act, some faction of Islamists takes the responsibility of the terrorist act. As for example, just this week terrorist bomb attack outside Australian embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia-the al-Qaeda link group Jamaah-e-Islamia has claimed responsibility just after a few hours of the incident and warned further attacks. Then why blame western Medias? Besides, when police arrests some terrorist suspects, they (suspects) are always having Muslim's identity in their fore-heads. Then what the western Medias are supposed to broadcast? Should they broadcast that some Hindus or Jews have perpetrated the crime? What a strange and ridiculous complaint by those hypocritical Islamists!


why question islam - why not ?
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Reply #3 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:02am
 
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1. Can we find Jihadi organization in any other religions such: Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hizbullah, Horkut-ul- Jihad, Horkut-ul-mujahedin, Jaise Muhamad, Jihad-e-Muhammad, Tahrik-e-Nifaj-shariaat-e-Muhammad, Al-Hikhma, Al-badr-Mujaheddin, Jamah-e-Islamia, Hijb-e-Islamia, etc. etc.? We can find several dozens of Jihadi Islamic terrorist organizations exists in every Muslim country throughout the world. Can we find such organization in other religions? If not, then why?


Let's see...

The National Liberation Front of Tripura, The Nagaland Rebels, Iron Guard, Lăncieri, Russian National Unity, The Lord's Resistance Army, Ku Klux Klan, The Army of God, Concerned Christians, Lambs of Christ, IRA, Real IRA, UVF...

All good Christians.

There's already more than you've provided in your article. And I could go on. Ireland alone probably has more terrorist Christian groups than you've listed Islamic groups here. Most of them have carried out bloody terrorist attacks, and most of them clearly use Christian justifications for their causes.
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Reply #4 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:12am
 

and how many of those use terrorist bombers ?
how many want to take over the world?
how many are supported by other christians/nonchristians
where are the justifications in the NT ??

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Reply #5 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:25am
 
perhaps this is relevant abu ?

these are more educated muslims wanting to murder.
how do they get the koran so wrong?
or do they?
what do you think of them?



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A British court has found three men guilty of plotting to blow up at least seven transatlantic airliners using liquid explosives, in near-simultaneous attacks aimed at causing massive loss of life.

Ringleader Abdulla Ahmed Ali was found guilty of conspiring to murder thousands in the plot, whose discovery triggered wide-ranging new rules on carrying liquids on commercial aircraft.

Tanvir Hussain, 28, and Assad Sarwar, 29, were found guilty on the same charges of plotting to carry out bombings on aircraft flying from London's Heathrow airport to the United States and Canada.

The three men were previously found guilty of conspiracy to murder, but the jury in their first trial could not decide on charges that they had plotted to kill people by bringing down airliners.

Home Secretary Alan Johnson hailed the verdicts, saying: "I am pleased that the jury has recognised that there was a plot to bomb transatlantic flights and that three people have been convicted of that plot."

"This case reaffirms that we face a real and serious threat from terrorism. This was a particularly complex and daring plot which would have led to a terrible attack resulting in major loss of life."

The counter-terrorism operation to prevent the plot was the biggest ever in Britain. "I cannot thank enough those involved for their professionalism and dedication in thwarting this attack and saving thousands of lives," he said.

Woolwich Crown Court heard that plans for the attack were drawn up in Pakistan and passed on to Ali. He returned to Britain to assemble a terror cell, gather material and identify targets.
However, he was under surveillance by British security forces at the time.

Undercover officers bugged his flat in east London, where he met others to build the bombs, as part of a police investigation that cost a total of STG35 million ($67.3 million).

The plan was to smuggle home-made bombs made of hydrogen peroxide onto the planes in soft drink bottles. Refilled batteries would carry the chemical detonator, with the bombs set off using a charge from a light bulb filament.

They would have been assembled and detonated in mid-air by a team of suicide bombers, causing untold damage.

Police believe the design was thought up by a mystery bombmaker with links to the al-Qaeda terrorist network. He has never been identified.

Ali, who was born in Britain, was inspired by suicide bombers who attacked London's transport system on July 7, 2005, killing 52 people as well as the four bombers, prosecutors said.

He is thought to have finalised the plans during a six-month trip to Pakistan in 2005, and intended to teach non-Muslims "a lesson that they will never forget".
Ali threatened further attacks against the West in a suicide video recorded in his flat, warning the British public to expect "floods of martyr operations" that would leave body parts scattered in the streets.

In their defence, Ali, Sarwar and Hussain had argued that the plot was an elaborate publicity stunt designed to call attention to an internet documentary attacking British foreign policy.

The jury rejected this, and the men will be sentenced on Monday. September 14.

However, they found Ibrahim Savant, 28, Arafat Waheed Khan, 27, and Waheed Zaman, 24, not guilty of the airline plot. Donald Stewart-Whyte, 23, was found not guilty of both conspiracy to murder on aircraft and conspiracy to murder.

After 54 hours of deliberations, the jurors failed to reach a verdict on the role of Umar Islam, 31, in the plot, although he was convicted of the second charge of conspiracy to murder.



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Reply #6 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:40pm
 
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and how many of those use terrorist bombers ?


Most of them have used bombings as a form of terrorising the governments/groups they are opposed to.

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how many want to take over the world?


How is it relevant? Many of them want to establish Christian religious states. After that, who knows?

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how many are supported by other christians/nonchristians


I'd say all of them. They simply couldn't function without the support of their fellow Christians. The Irish groups for instance are well known to have received funding and political support from Christian sympathisers all around the world.

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where are the justifications in the NT ??


No idea, ask them. Perhaps they take their justifications from the OT, not all Christians agree with you that the NT is the only source of Christian teaching, in fact I'd say most wouldn't. So you're the minority, not they.

Many of those groups I listed above have engaged in bombings and other violence, one of them is actually listed in the top 10 most active terrorist groups in the world by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism. The National Liberation Front of Tripura has also been accused of forbily converting non-Christians to Christianity. It has also produced pornographic videos of hostages they've taken, using the proceeds of selling them, to fund their insurgency, and use their female prisoners as sex slaves.

Some others were involved in the holocaust and various pogoroms against Jews, and we all know what the KKK do to blacks and other racial minorities.

Moving onto the LRA, they regularly engage in massacres, abductions, mutilations, torture, rape  and keep captives as sex slaves. Justification can be found for every single one of these actions in the Bible, even if you don't accept it, it's there, and some Christians apparently do use it as justification for their actions. They also wear rosary beads and recite passages from the Bible when going into battle.

The fact is sprint that people of all religions can commit excesses, and yet others are oppressed enough into having no option but to use resistance methods to defend and maintain themselves. Christians are the only people I know of though who actually do these things, like the bombings in America, even when they're not being oppressed, occupied, fought against. They do it just purely based on their beliefs and their perception that certain governments are behaving contrary to their beliefs.
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Reply #7 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 1:02pm
 

hahahaha abu - now THAT'S what i call winging it.

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.......who knows?......I'd say ......No idea.........


feel free to open you own "creative" thread, I ask you to NOT divert this one.

this one is about criticising islam and the justification thereof.
Of which, there is AMPLE, you have answered none.
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Reply #8 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 4:14pm
 
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7. Suicide-bombing only to kill innocent human beings (only to target civilian) is committed by Muslims only.


Really? So what does the word Kamikaze mean??

The modern history of suicide attacks seems to indicate it's more of a European practice than a Muslim one. Muslims have only begun using this method for the past few years, and probably only out of desperation.

The first recorded instance of suicide attacks in recent history was from the Qing official Yu Yonghe who recorded that injured Dutch soldiers fighting against Koxinga's forces for control of Taiwan in 1661 would use gunpowder to blow up both themselves and their opponents.

Then during the Belgian Revolution, the Dutch Lieutenant Jan van Speijk detonated his own ship in the harbour of Antwerp.

(Seems to be a Dutch phenomena thus far..)

Another example was the Prussian soldier Karl Klinke on 18 April 1864 at the Battle of Dybbøl, when he blew a hole in a Danish fortification...

Modern suicide bombing as a political tool can be traced back to the assassination of Czar Alexander II of Russia in 1881. Alexander fell victim to a Nihilist plot. While driving on one of the central streets of Saint Petersburg, near the Winter Palace, he was mortally wounded by the explosion of hand-made grenades and died a few hours afterwards. The Tzar was killed by a member of Narodnaya Volya, Ignacy Hryniewiecki, who died while intentionally exploding the bomb during the attack. Rudolf Christoph Freiherr von Gersdorff intended to assassinate Adolf Hitler by suicide bomb in 1943, but was unable to complete the attack.

(Prussians, Germans and Russians, all Christians...)

During the Battle for Berlin the Luftwaffe flew "Self-sacrifice missions" (Selbstopfereinsatz) against Soviet bridges over the River Oder. These 'total missions' were flown by pilots of the Leonidas Squadron under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Heiner Lange. From 17 April until 20 April 1945, using any aircraft that were available.

(More Germans..)

Following World War II, Viet Minh "death volunteers" fought against the French colonial army by using a long stick-like explosive to destroy French tanks.

(Vietnamese.. mostly Buddhists & Christians I think..)

A popular Hindu nationalist leader in India called for the formation of Hindu suicide squads, Bal Thackeray, a Hindu nationalist in India and president of the Shiv Sena issued a call to form Hindu suicide squads. In 2002, Thackeray issued this call. At least two organizations founded and managed by the retired Indian Army officers namely Lt Col (retired) Jayant Rao Chitale and Lt Ge. P.N. Hoon (former commander-in-chief of the Western Command), answered Bal Thackeray’s call to set up the Suicide Squads in India. Lt Gen. Hoon claimed, Thackeray instructed him to set up the training camps.

(Hindus...)

The famous "Bra bomber" who committed a suicide bombing of Indian PM Rajiv Gandhi (and killing 14 others) was certainly not a Muslim.

(Hindu again?..)

Interestingly the first suicide attack against Israel was actually carried out by Japanese, not Palestinians. Three Japanese used grenades and automatic rifles to kill 26 people and wound many more in the hall of the Lod airport in Tel Aviv, Israel in 1972. The group belonged to the Japanese Red Army. Members of the JRA became instructors in martial art and kamikaze operations at several training camps bringing the suicide techniques to the Middle East

(Shinto? Communists?...)

During WWII, thousands of Japanese pilots carried out Kamikaze suicide missions. This is in addition to Banzai charge attacks, in which tens of thousands of foot soldiers carried out suicide missions, charging at the enemy directly, hoping to kill them and die at the same time.

(Shinto/Japanese...)

The usage of the term "suicide bombing" dates back to at least 1940. A 10 August 1940 New York Times article mentions the term in relation to German tactics. A 4 March 1942 article refers to a Japanese attempt at a "suicide bombing" on an American carrier. Even earlier, though not using the exact phrase, the magazine Modern Mechanix (February 1936) reports the Italians reacted to a possible oil embargo by stating that they would carry out attacks with "a squadron of aviators pledged to crash their death-laden planes in suicidal dives directly onto the decks of British ships".

So it appears another of your article's claims is shattered.

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feel free to open you own "creative" thread, I ask you to NOT divert this one.

this one is about criticising islam and the justification thereof.
Of which, there is AMPLE, you have answered none.


But it's not diversion, since your article _clearly_ asks the question whether others do these actions, and in fact makes claims they don't.
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Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 4:32pm
 
This is scary stuff; somehow Australian Government does not seem to note the connections.

I wander how many possible attacks will be averted and I fear that one day they might miss one!
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Reply #11 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 8:28am
 
what thread holds together your random examples of suicide bombing ?
they were all at war.

what holds together the thread of continual muslim bombings ?
they are all aiming for 72 virgins in the sky bordello an illiterate  paedophile promised them.


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.......The Journal of Counterterrorism and Security International reports that Alamoush delivered the following public address (Spring, 1998): “Somebody approached me at the mosque and asked me, ‘If I see a Jew in the street should I kill him?’  After pausing a moment with a dumbfounded face, Alamoush answered the question to a laughing crowd: ‘don’t ask me.  After you kill him come and tell me.  What do you want from me, a fatwa?  Really, a good deed does not require one.’” Later in the speech Alamoush interrupted his presentation to say: “Good news—there has been a suicide operation in Jerusalem.”
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This from inside a mosque.
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In the name of Islam countless Muslims use any and every opportunity to stage violent protests, issue death threaths, destroy property, murder, and commit other acts of terrorism.
They go nuts (yes, nuts) over cartoons and teddy bears, while they generally keep quiet over acts of terrorism and other human rights violations commited by fellow members of their so-called ‘religion of peace.’
If Muslims want to protest something, let them start by protesting this instead of trying to force civilized countries to bow down to Islam:



ALL the criticisms are warranted, hence islam is questioned.
it should be thrown off the globe
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Reply #12 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 10:56am
 
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what thread holds together your random examples of suicide bombing ?
they were all at war.


In case it failed to register in that empty cranium of yours, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan are all in a state of war as well...

Either way, the point was crushed, others besides Muslims have definitely employed suicide attacks, and in fact Muslims are very late newcomers to this practice, stretching back no more than about 20-30 years at the most.

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This from inside a mosque.
comments/justifications/diversions please abu


Ooo from inside a mosque??  Grin
Wait till I post for you some of the sermons from the LRA churches.

Anyway I'll leave you to it.

I could waste my time smashing the rest of these ridiculous claims, but there's no point. Some people are just beyond comprehending..
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Reply #13 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 11:25am
 

by all means, post what is said from within a LRA church in a specific thread for it.
we'll see if the NT encourages what they say.

many of your muslims mates scourged their women lately ?
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Re: why all the criticism of islam ?
Reply #14 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 12:47pm
 


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THE Federal Government has added four groups to its list of known terrorist organisations after receiving intelligence warning of imminent attacks.

The four groups - Hamas Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the Kurdistan Workers Party, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba and Palestinian Islamic Jihad were all previously on the list.

Attorney-General Robert McClelland said the re-listing was on the back of advice from security agencies warning that the groups "were either directly or indirectly engaged in, preparing, planning, assisting or fostering terrorist acts".

Hamas Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, an armed element of Hamas' military wing, and which is believed to have carried out terrorist attacks in support of Hamas, was one of two Palestinian organisations added to the list.

Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a violent extremist group committed to the establishment of an Islamic Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel, is believed to be responsible for numerous rocket attacks on Israel and several suicide bombings.
The Kurdistan Workers Party, also known as PKK, is a Kurdish nationalist movement which engages in a range of attacks against Turkish security, civilian and foreign targets.

Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, an extremist Islamic organisation based in Pakistan, has directly engaged in a number of terrorist acts, including suicide attacks, bombings, kidnappings, and assassinations in India.
The group was responsible for the November 2008 attacks in Mumbai which killed more than 170 people.

The re-listing of the groups makes it an offence to be a member of, associate with, train with, provide training for, receive funds from, make funds available to, direct or recruit for these organisations.



http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26045834-5003402,00.html

cripes, 3 of the 4 groups are muslims.
wonder what drove them to this ?
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