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Reply #15 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 12:14pm

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Calanen wrote on Aug 13^th, 2009 at 10:47am:

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What is it that you are trying to win yadda?
Are we at war with Islam?
How would you consider the war won?

Whether or not we consider ourselves at war with Islam, Islam is at war with us, and the evidence is all around us, overwhelmingly so.

But there are none so blind as those who will not see.

OK, lets assume for a moment we are at war with Islam, (whoever we are,) how do you propose "we" will ever win it?
Lets assume "we" do win it, who do the Christians want to conquer next, the atheists? the Buddhists?

The Third Reich was a supremacist ideology. It had as its core beliefs that the Germans were the uber race, and all others unter menschen. And that it would rule with Third Reich law, over the whole world, for 1000 years. It designated Jews as the reason for the world's problems as the worst of the worst. Extreme violence and death will be meted out to any who stand in the way of the Reich.

Islam is a supremacist ideology that regards muslims as the rightful rules of the world under a Caliphate, and sharia law. All others must be dhimmis with less rights under Islamic rule. The future of man is to be united under allah. Sharia law is the only true law. Unlike the Nazis who mostly wore uniforms and came at us head on, Islam is both fighting us militarily, economically, culturally, electronically, monetarily, at every turn, both behind the lines and in front of them. Again the Jews are the scapegoats for the world's problems, and even the Islamic world's problem.

You don't get it. Islam does not want to be part of your society, it wants to create its own society and destroy yours. And Im sorry if I am 'intolerant' for not wanting that.

So did the people of Germany live as slaves under American rule once America defeated the Nazis?

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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skippy Ex Member	Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam Reply #16 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 12:59pm Quote: So did the people of Germany live as slaves under American rule once America defeated the Nazis? Thats chalk and cheese, many Germans didn't want Nazi rule, and you didn't try and destroy their religion .
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Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam
Reply #17 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 1:40pm

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So did the people of Germany live as slaves under American rule once America defeated the Nazis?

Thats chalk and cheese, many Germans didn't want Nazi rule, and you didn't try and destroy their religion .

It is? But what if their 'religion' is about destroying you, is that OK? I don't care what they believe in terms of God, Allah Mohammed or whatever. But part of their religion is politics and taking control of the state. I dont want them to take control of the state, or of me. I don't want armies of jihadi wannabees like Abu Rashid sitting in wait to reinvent our culture so that every wikipedia entry has some bizarre claim to Islam having invented, discovered, contributed. Now the wikiepdia common law entry says that the English common law came from Islam, which is just such manifest rubbish.

There are a lot more similarities between Islam and Nazism then there are differences. And what if someone had all the policies of Nazism but said that God demanded it? Does that make it an acceptable religion?

We have learnt to be soft, and Islam senses that frailty. But not everyone is soft, which is what they are about to find out. Slowly slowly, people are awakening.

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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Reply #18 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 2:21pm

ROTFLMAO at the site Troll.

Skippeeee... you've never once called me by my correct name in all the time I've been here so stop with the flame come sob story eh.
BTW I'm glad it gets to you.
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Well you're wrong, I don't see atheists out there declaring war on Islam. I don't see Buddhists out there declaring war on Islam. In fact I don't even see mainstream western society out there declaring war on Islam, nup, the only people declaring that Islam is the enemy are the fukcin loopy extremist Christians.

What an idiot. YOU STILL DON"T GET IT DO YOU.
Thanks for proving once again what a giant intellect you aren't.
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One more time for the Uber dummy...

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"We" are every non-Muslim Skippeeee... that includes atheists like yourself.

If you are not a muslim you are not one of them, therefore you can convert become a dhimmi or die.

Christians aren't conquering anyone BTW.

oh wait, wait... maybe they'll make you an exception because you are ignorant about Islam.

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skippy Ex Member	Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam Reply #19 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 2:38pm I love it when you play the part of the victim boofonce, it really suits you. As for your name, come on booofffeee, I've been calling you booffeee for long before this site, just as you've been a big cry baby for long before this site.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41675 Gender:	Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam Reply #20 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 4:13pm skippy - grendel just plays victim to lure you along
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam Reply #21 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 6:50pm I never play victim... it's just Skippeeeeeees fantasy. He was the one complaining... I just stated a fact.
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Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam
Reply #22 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 8:23pm

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Again the Jews are the scapegoats for the world's problems, and even the Islamic world's problem.

Hate to throw a spanner in the works of your little nazi fantasy, but Muslims and Jews have lived side by side for well over 1200 years (remember their self-proclaimed 'golden age' in al-Andalus??). In fact Jews, Muslims and Christians were living in Jerusalem quite happily, as neighbours prior to the arrival of the British (and with them the Euro-Zionist settlers). Muslims didn't have a problem with Jews until they mass immigrated into our lands, booting out the inhabitants and forming their own little fascist state in the middle of our land, wouldn't anyone??? Jews travelled half way round the wworld from Lithuania, U.S.A, UK, Russia etc. to colonise Palestine, not the other way round. The Palestinians didn't goto those countries and kick Jews out of their homes... Did they?

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Reply #23 - Aug 13^th, 2009 at 8:32pm

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Well you're wrong, I don't see atheists out there declaring war on Islam. I don't see Buddhists out there declaring war on Islam. In fact I don't even see mainstream western society out there declaring war on Islam, nup, the only people declaring that Islam is the enemy are the fukcin loopy extremist Christians.

You've touched on something quite interesting there skippy. Christians seem to thrive on Islam don't they? For the past 100 or so years, they've been slipping further and further into the abyss of insignificance within Western society, and now all of a sudden they feel a new sense of purpose... to oppose Islam, and to provide Western society with a spiritual defense against the evil marauding hordes of Islam that are approaching from just over the other side of the hill (supposedly).

Without Islam, more churches would be closing, more of the remaining faithful would be slipping away, either embracing atheism, or just sliding into the apathetic secularist mindset that many in Western society seem to have preferred over Christianity.

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Reply #24 - Aug 14^th, 2009 at 12:04am

ROTFLMAO
Yes well they are still living side by side Aboo, but the Muslims want the Joos dead.

Once again you deny the facts about th ME and who lived there etc, etc... oh dear so the Jews never lived anywhere in the ME eh Abooby? You are a brainwashed fool.

As for Islam and Christianity... many more people of other religions and even atheists see Islam for what it is and what it brings to the table Abooby... most would rather let things alone... but Islam and its permanent victimhood and and xenophobia set it against everyone else.

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skippy Ex Member	Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam Reply #25 - Aug 14^th, 2009 at 7:58am Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 13^th, 2009 at 4:13pm: skippy - grendel just plays victim to lure you along Yea I know sprint, as I keep telling boooofffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, everybody can see straight through him, the only person he is fooling is the fool himself.
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Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam
Reply #26 - Aug 14^th, 2009 at 8:09am

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 13^th, 2009 at 8:32pm:

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Well you're wrong, I don't see atheists out there declaring war on Islam. I don't see Buddhists out there declaring war on Islam. In fact I don't even see mainstream western society out there declaring war on Islam, nup, the only people declaring that Islam is the enemy are the fukcin loopy extremist Christians.

You've touched on something quite interesting there skippy. Christians seem to thrive on Islam don't they? For the past 100 or so years, they've been slipping further and further into the abyss of insignificance within Western society, and now all of a sudden they feel a new sense of purpose... to oppose Islam, and to provide Western society with a spiritual defense against the evil marauding hordes of Islam that are approaching from just over the other side of the hill (supposedly).

Without Islam, more churches would be closing, more of the remaining faithful would be slipping away, either embracing atheism, or just sliding into the apathetic secularist mindset that many in Western society seem to have preferred over Christianity.

Its just typical of the Christian church to put the boot in when someone is down, at the moment the extreme Christians sense a weakness in Muslim support from mainstream society so they try and capitalise on that.
Loony Christians like yadda are just as dangerous as loony Muslims, they hide behind the cloth of the Christian church whilst advocating war on another religion.

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Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam
Reply #27 - Aug 14^th, 2009 at 9:15am

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 13^th, 2009 at 8:32pm:

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Well you're wrong, I don't see atheists out there declaring war on Islam. I don't see Buddhists out there declaring war on Islam. In fact I don't even see mainstream western society out there declaring war on Islam, nup, the only people declaring that Islam is the enemy are the fukcin loopy extremist Christians.

You've touched on something quite interesting there skippy. Christians seem to thrive on Islam don't they? For the past 100 or so years, they've been slipping further and further into the abyss of insignificance within Western society, and now all of a sudden they feel a new sense of purpose... to oppose Islam, and to provide Western society with a spiritual defense against the evil marauding hordes of Islam that are approaching from just over the other side of the hill (supposedly).

Without Islam, more churches would be closing, more of the remaining faithful would be slipping away, either embracing atheism, or just sliding into the apathetic secularist mindset that many in Western society seem to have preferred over Christianity.

Spot on (without the 'supposedly').

And secularists who oppose Islam do so because they understand the civilisational threat of Islam. And whether they understand it or not, their opposition does stems from the same source as the Christians' without the Biblical quotes and direct references. Islam is a threat to everything secularists hold dear, all of which are possible out of Chrsitianity and all of which are impossible out of any other civilisational source.

SO the common ground between atheist or agnostic secularists and Christians, lapsed or not, against is Islam is not a sinister 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' but very obvious civilisational roots and bonds that are threatened with destruction by Islam.

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Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam
Reply #28 - Aug 14^th, 2009 at 9:43am

Calanen wrote on Aug 13^th, 2009 at 12:14pm:

The Third Reich was a supremacist ideology. It had as its core beliefs that the Germans were the uber race, and all others unter menschen. And that it would rule with Third Reich law, over the whole world, for 1000 years. It designated Jews as the reason for the world's problems as the worst of the worst.

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Again the Jews are the scapegoats for the world's problems
, and even the Islamic world's problem.

Cal,

You may not realise, just how true your statement is!!!

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness
of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places
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This isn't just a struggle against ISLAM, per se.

Somehow, in our existence here, we have all been caught up in a [spiritual] war between good, and evil, between LIGHT, and DARKNESS.
....whether we have the wit to realise that TRUTH, or not.

And, all of our choices in this [physical] reality, go towards determining what side of that spiritual war we are on.

FURTHER,

Revelation 12:12
....Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Studying the Bible has led me to to know, that Israel, and the Jewish people, are a 'line in the sand'.

It is clear, that 'Israel', and the Jewish people are the 'whipping boy' of SATAN's rage against God's will.

Throughout history this has always been so.

'Israel', is a spiritual analogy. The Jewish people are a spiritual analogy.

No better blood than the blood of jews

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/buchenwald.jpg
DO NOT CLICK THIS LINK, to a disturbing image from a Nazi death camp.
"Heil Hitler!"

Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Israel is a spiritual plumb-line.

Today, almost every human being on the planet, will have an opinion, and a partisan view, of what is presently occurring in the Middle East.

Depending upon how you view Israel, and the Jewish people, you will know, exactly, and with certainty, on what side of this spiritual struggle you stand, and on what side of that 'line in the sand' you stand.

I do not know, specifically, how our God will bring his justice to bear, against the wicked.

But i do know, that the wicked will not 'escape' justice.

What i have seen in this world, has led me to know, that my God is wise, and that wicked men are so, so, dumb - and proud!

Isaiah 55:8
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

I know that our God is just, and i know that the wicked will not escape the consequences of their nature.

I trust my God, and and i trust in his righteousness.

Psalms 9:16
The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.

What we each need to ask ourselves is.....

Does the sum of (y)our existence here, on this little planet, equate to fighting against (y)our God?

I sincerely hope not!

Here, is advice given to God's people within the Old and New Testament scripture....

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:
18 He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.
19 Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Matthew 22:36
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Psalms 34:14
Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.

Do you comprehend yet, that in our existence here, on this little planet, we are all a 'strangers in a strange land'?

Allegorically, on this little planet, we are all, in 'Egypt'.

We are all 'in bondage', within this fleshly body.

MORE.....

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Craig Winn- Exposing Islam
Reply #29 - Aug 14^th, 2009 at 9:44am

CONTINUED FROM LAST POST.....

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."

Gandalf - FOTR

No matter what our circumstances, in the life we have been given here, all of the choices we make are our own.

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.....Are we smart enough, in our lives here, to stop repeating the same mistakes and bad choices?

.....Have you ever thought about the concept of choice [free will]?

Choice is a mental power, a thought power, ....a spiritual power.

Here, in this 'reality', here on this little planet, our choices have no form, until we express them physically!

I believe that the purpose of us being here, is to learn the consequences [and the seriousness], of expressing our choices.

In the larger scheme of things, very choice we make, has a consequence.
....i.e. a 'butterfly effect'.

here,
THE PART THAT OUR PLEASURE PLAYS...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225668669/0#0

If your God is about, we...need his help now
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1236489259/9#9

Isaiah 62:10
Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.
11 Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
12 And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Matthew 13:24
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 13:36
Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

Ezekiel 33:11
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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